News GalNet - postponing Community Submissions

This is really sad news... Im hoping atleast it means there will be more effort to bring story and a bit of livelyness back into galnet. And it is really only temporary .
 
To whoever in Frontier invested the time and energy into coordinating, validating, and editing the GalNets for the community - thank you for everything. The combined efforts of your actions and the community's imagination helped paint a picture that inspired adventures, mysteries, and conflict alike. A lot of where we are, and who we are, as a community owes itself to the story brought forth by both our sides.

So please, level with us on what went wrong. Is it an issue of manpower compared to quantity, like the recent "player factions can not be changed" topic? Is it that our submissions are too frequent and the quality disappointingly low? Or perhaps even worse, has the community contributed so little lately as to consider the feature a waste of idle manpower?

Your willingness to work with us in the first place has earned my appreciation and love; transparency, on a subject so dear to many of us, would never be forgotten.

Very erudite mate, I couldn't say it better. The player submitted stories were some of the best, most immersive items on GalNet, they really helped make the game feel more alive. I hope they or something better can re-appear at some time in the future.
 
The obvious solution is to pitch GalNet completely and create our own community news source. I like what Lave Radio did, but it would require daily updates and archives.

Eventually they’ll have to come to the alternate news site to figure out what’s going on in their own galaxy.
 
Let's be patient, have faith that Frontier Developments know what they're doing

Are you serious? Patient? Faith? After two years of horizons? And suspending player generated (read: almost free) content and in a true FDev fashion not even a "because reasons", only silence? This is why half the community is salty about communication status from FDev, aka the remain tight-lipped oratory technique. Exactly that. Not even "we will have something worth waiting for", or "the galnet is now specialising in Xeno threat" or "it is temporary because Mary is on maternity leave"...
The community and human written submissions were what kept galnet alive. Now it will be a desolate void, useful only for BGS players and maybe power players, unless they reserving it for the Thargoids entirely...

Bad play, Mr. Senior Community Manager, community really feels ”managed”. PS: congratulations on promotion, despite the ”epic failstart”.
 
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This is disappointing to me, too. One of the great things about a sandbox space game, especially one the size of ED, is the emergent storytelling that naturally develops. I always thought GalNet was woefully underutilized in showcasing such player content. Now that what little user content there was is cut off completely, well, that is a step backwards to me. The game should be growing, not shrinking.

I am hopeful that this is just a pause while Frontier comes up with an improved system that will allow for greater community content. I think a lot of angst would be avoided if there was some confirmation of this. This message sounds too much like a final notice, sadly. Once again, the community is going to be driven outside the game to get information.
 
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Oh, please, tell me more about the poor devs who have been treating 9 out of 10 of player groups like crap for the past 2+ years and how they are justified when pulling back because everyone is so mean to them and their feelings are hurt.

Not a fan of stockholm syndrome, you'll have to excuse me.

You seem to have misunderstood so I'll try again.

There's a difference between explaining that you're unhappy (I think you have a right to be unhappy) and behaving like a total .

Is that clear enough for you?
 
.... One of the great things about a sandbox space game, especially one the size of ED, is the emergent storytelling that naturally develops....

I don't think this is really a sandbox game. It is exactly the emergent storytelling that FD has ran away from the hardest. ED's lore is tightly curated. Unless it is coordinated with FD through a CG or Salome/official author/favored player groups event, it will not be known, not be acknowledged, and community managers will be ignorant or claim ignorance of it.

All we got out of the Ross 128 event is a change in expansion mechanics.
 
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You seem to have misunderstood so I'll try again.

There's a difference between explaining that you're unhappy (I think you have a right to be unhappy) and behaving like a total .

Is that clear enough for you?

I have to ask, how much have you participated in actual community creations? Because if you haven't, then maybe you should ask around how respectful FD's approach is first, with double standards being applied left and right.
 
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Oh, well, excuse me for that, I'll try again:

"Thank you FD for totally screwing your community once more time. I feel extremely joyful to see the staff behind Elite Dangerous to go one step further into false advertising and practically remove the selling point of a galaxy influenced and driven by its own players. I think this is an excellent demonstration of the lack of scope and passion within the team anymore, which is an incredible asset to have within the industry today, as evident from the triple A releases. Overall, I think this will benefit FD into digging its own grave, which means you will reach the end goal of not having to worry about server costs much faster, making it one of the smartest financial decisions in terms of avoiding costs."

There's your positive attitude served in a platter. Look at all those kind words.

I have to ask, how much have you participated in actual community creations? Because if you haven't, then maybe you should ask around how respectful FD's approach is first.

Just look at what you wrote in your first post. Then look at what I said.

I'm not saying you should have some happy clappy approach to it mate, I totally understand why you're brassed off. Really, I do. What I'm saying is that you are dealing with a company who have made a decision that I agree with you seems to be misguided, but decided to individually single out and frankly crap on one of their staff who is the guy who communicated their decision to you. Ed isn't Satan. I'm pretty sure he doesn't spend his time thinking of ways to humiliate the community and devising what he can do to wind you up. Additionally, if your problem is a perceived lack of respect, throwing it right back actually undermines the moral high ground on which you're standing.

As for how much I've participated in 'actual community creations' the short answer is some, although not in terms of organising them as you no doubt have. If you think that means I don't appreciate that the people who do it put a lot of time and effort into it, you're wrong, in fact it's just the opposite - I recognise that you guys certainly put more time and effort than I'm able to (or inclined to) into providing content for the wider community. If you think it means I don't gve a crap whether you're supported, you're wrong about that as well. However if you think you're going to get any kind of constructive discussion going by throwing shade at the community manager, I suspect you've just scored your hattrick.

I doubt we're going to move our own conversation forward in any kind of positive way here, so I'm happy to leave it at that. Hope you get a resolution to this that satisfies you. Fly safe etc.
 
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I actually gave up, after Ian took over I was relegated to zero on GalNet, local news acceptances were sporadic and honestly wasn't worth the effort. I tried to use GalNet to tell stories that could be shared with other CMDRS, even local would have made this fine, but every continuation of the story was a roll of the dice.

The final straw for me was being told my structure was all wrong by Ian. And I was using the standard journalistic pyramid structure.

PS. This does sound petty but it is how I felt. I do appreciate the monumental task it must have been to curate all the submissions and honestly it must have been a thankless task, praise from the CMDRs accepted and condemnation from those of us who felt left out or insulted. So I must take my hat off to Ian anyway, but FDEV really must devote time and resources and daresay even money to interacting with the community. Or even just managing them more effectively, from floodgates of mass influx of information to perhaps limited but more meaningful interactions. I dunno. I honestly can't blame Ian.
 
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Only reason why this is frustrating to me is that I have sent in several submissions that are met with nothingness and this was several weeks ago (I understand 2.4 was in the works and had people busy) which as someone who was trying to get a consistant flow in it just fell flat. Love you guys and all you do for us (especially for putting up with us lol). But its becoming harder for me to really get behind this since there really isn't a lot of galnet activity outside of local harolds. Is it because you are all busy with getting our articles up that it pulls attention away from the primary network or is it just there isn't much there.
 
All we got out of the Ross 128 event is a change in expansion mechanics.

Interesting point - that actually was a pretty big deal, an Alliance faction taking over a Federation world if I recall. Was this also a permit-locked world? Sounds like the beginnings of an ED novel!

Did the Ross 128 incident ever make GalNet in any serious way?
 
Interesting point - that actually was a pretty big deal, an Alliance faction taking over a Federation world if I recall. Was this also a permit-locked world? Sounds like the beginnings of an ED novel!

Did the Ross 128 incident ever make GalNet in any serious way?

Yes, Corrigendum managed to get a local piece in after contacting us, giving an Imperial point of view on the happening.

There was no Alliance point of view accepted though, which made things kinda weird.

He was very respectful of the source material we created as our intended lore.

And yes, it's permit locked, in particular locked behind the Rank 7 of Ensign. Lore wise the system is what would happen if Guantanamo Bay and Alcatraz had a baby, then doubled it, so it was quite a prideful liberation to achieve. It's also to be noted that for the past 2 months Federal commanders are trying to take it back tooth and nail, as a matter of pride, despite the terrible lore behind it.
 
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Without FD saying anything more about this (it could literally be two or three words added to the original statement) we can only come to our own conclusions. If they don't want us to do that, then they should probly just tell us the reason for this.

Here is my own conclusion, based on the lack of information here.



The only possible "Good" reason for this, is FD have just hired a few guys to work on these local and galactic news stories full time specifically, because they want to be very sure that everything fits perfectly with the "Narrative content" they will be releasing for the rest of 2.4.

The likelyhood of that is about 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% though, so.

Yeah. I'm gonna have to say they pulled a few creatives off this to work on Jurrassic Park.
 
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Without FD saying anything more about this (it could literally be two or three words added to the original statement) we can only come to our own conclusions. If they don't want us to do that, then they should probly just tell us the reason for this.

100% agree with that - as I alluded to earlier it's an issue that probably every sector of the player base you can imagine could relate to for one reason or another. The first thing I thought when reading the OP was 'hmm, now why have they done that?' so it's hardly a shock that content creators are going to be asking the same question, yet as is so often the case wondering is all you're left with.
 
Perhaps someone at Frontier finally realised that community submitted Galnet articles had absolutely nothing to do with combat and pewpew'ing, and as such spending any time and energy on it was in complete conflict to the sole focus of the games development? :p
 
As far as I can tell, the percentage of the playerbase which ever actually reads GalNet is miniscule. Player groups would probably reach at least as wide of an audience with their stories by posting them in the roleplay subforum or making a website.
 
The only possible "Good" reason for this, is FD have just hired a few guys to work on these local and galactic news stories full time specifically, because they want to be very sure that everything fits perfectly with the "Narrative content" they will be releasing for the rest of 2.4.

It would be cool if there were a couple of official "GalNet Reporters" working at Frontier, scouring the forums, Twitter, etc. for cool CMDR-generated news, and then writing said news in a professional, journalistic style. That said, even reporters have a hotline to call with a story.
 
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