Which might lead to a meaningful mechanism for exploration CGs.
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How is it not? Conflict Zones are prime for that, along with the high wake trails players leave that would let you follow them into nearby systems.
As soon as they cave in arbitrarily dropping the actions of two of the game modes in PP, it will be a double standard not doing it for BGS aswell.
This is objectively bad design. So your telling me a grown working adult who puts in 60+ hours a week that you are nerfing core minning to make it competitive with laser mining? Try again just dump this terrible idea in a fire and try again. How is +25k a ton... but not on void opals a perk. It already takes 60 hours solid to get a fleet carrier if your lucky are you messing with us? I can already here the devs "Oh but fleet carriers are an endgame goal" if that is true then why are the Community Goals built around them???? This supposed "rebalance" .... "over time and well thought out" ... is just a swing of the nerf bat call it a day. Paying no attention to the fact that you would have to be a raging idiot to core mine with these prices lemme see I can sit and make oodles of creds or I can noodle about for hours and maybe eek out some equivalence core minning.
TLDR quit being stingy with the core minning space buts or we are all gonna hunt for exploits make trillions on bugs we find and then let the game collect dust.
No adult wants to come home to a 2nd job figure out your ing credit balance fleet carrier should take 10 solid ing hours MAXIMUM.
TLDR quit being stingy with the core minning space buts or we are all gonna hunt for exploits make trillions on bugs we find and then let the game collect dust.
No adult wants to come home to a 2nd job figure out your ing credit balance fleet carrier should take 10 solid ing hours MAXIMUM.
You do get exploration rank progression points for stuff like that, for example when you first find a raw material that was new to you, or even for just driving around an SRV in a distant system. However, the rank points you get from selling data are much higher than all the rest, so much so that most people don't even notice that those exist.
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- Can we give whiny gankers something to do other than shoot at unshielded starter-level ships and claim they're skilled
- Can we get AXCZ's back?
Yes - just stop wiping them out the week before when its announced CZs will follow if not wiped out.
No - doesnt matter what you do, they will still do it if they can.
Viajero
Volunteer Moderator
You do not really need to exclude solo/private players from PP or BGS. Offer instead higher BGS or PP progress points when playing in Open and you will achieve the same risk/reward incentive you seem to be in favor of but without excluding any players.
I disagree this is not supposed to be a game where you have done and got everything in a few hours.
I had forgotten about them, I was almost Elite explo before leaving the bubble.
the one thing I would fix is the ability to earn ARX while exploring, not just when handing in the data.
I'd be down for open-only Power Play, if they separate the modules from it as they're all side-grades anyway.
Average run-of-the-mill player don't care for space politics and are happy to remain independent.
The BGS is set up to collate activity over one tick (24hrs ish) across modes, allowing time to do what you want. Since the BGS is the whole game really activity wise you can't really tell exactly what someone is doing or will do (no explicit pledges)- cause (cash data, kill, trade etc with unknown factions) is disconnected from effect (BGS outcome) unlike Powerplay where you can map an event 1:1 from cause to effect (i.e. chasing it in).
You can never really know how much or with whom someone is working, and that with the BGS you can be working against your faction to help your faction- something thats 5C in Powerplay but 'normal' in the BGS.
For a Hydra, definitly 100M cr reward considering the time and skill needed to do it.
AX fighters are highly skilled by that's not the case of everyone. I'm not a pro nor a noob, but i never killed a basilisk (maybe because i'm a skinflint with heatsinks
My suggestions:
Cyclop=10M, Basilisk=20M, Medusa=50M, Hydra=100M. For the scouts, they are currently at 10,000cr. Even the stupid shieldless harmless bot in a hazres give me more reward than a scout, but it takes me 2sec to kill the bot and more than 2min to take down the scout...
For the exploration items (Small and Large Data Cache Surveys) as they are rare to find, pls consider to multiply their prices by 10: Large Data should increase from 200k to 2M which isn't a great increase and won't impact game (as they are rare).
As guardians are a dead civilisation, their items should be more rewarding: multiply by 10 too. A guardian relic would pay 100k and a guardian key 250k or even 500k (don't forget it takes more than 1min to obtain a key and the repetitive process is time-consuming).
Anyway, even if i rage often against you devs about updates completly out of touch, i must admit that this time i'm happy you listened to the community and really hope that the balance will allow us to have activities rewarding DECENTLY instead of being forced to "mine forever". I didn't buy the game to shoot rocks
And while we are with mining, just my 2 cents: if i can have a decent payout from an activity, i won't waste my time to look for low tritium price but simply buy the full price; More important: i won't exploit the next money maker if i know that i have a secure way to make some when i need it
Thx for reading.
Silly numbers for Ax kills
I do hope FDev does not fall for that.
A hydra can be killed in 15 minutes, maybe faster.
I can kill a Cyclops in 5 minutes with a Gauss Challenger, and much faster with a Shard Conda.
I'm not a Pro AX combat pilot - im really a FA On scrub but even for me, it's a risk free activity.
There is more danger for me to fall asleep mining and lose the ship to asteroids then lose it to a Cyclops during an AX fight.
2 millions for a Cyclops feels quite ok-ish. 10 millions is definitely not.
Weighting (which Sandro suggested) only really works in Powerplay if you remove the old CZ combat expansion design since you can exploit it via heal beams and AFK turretboats.
Completely agree. A balance pass that only looks at income won't achieve all its goals I'm afraid.
Or just enact Sandros proposal which does as much is possible with the current design.
Viajero
Volunteer Moderator
Not sure about that. I know plenty player groups that like to do their BGS in Private. etc.
Viajero
Volunteer Moderator
Pretty sure some tweaks would be necessary, no doubt. But in esence incentivizing Open play for PP and BGS does not need to go to the extreme of excluding solo/private players imo.
Wouldn't even have to change much - just adjust the upper limit. Dragging a load of rares from the Bubble to Colonia should pay at least as much as a load of Painite.