Game loses something by not forcing Open play
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Griefer Candy LOL
Poeple complaining about being ganked without ever being ganked, thats the point.
- There is no being Ganked, this is not WOW where High level players ganking low lvl players.
- This Is also not EVE where you got Ganked from 100+ Poeple blob, and there are also no skillpoints.
- Youre losing nearly nothing with being killed just a little Joke ammount in credits
- There is no One shoot kill like COD
The only Advantage over other Players is
Better Skill in controling your Spacecraft, and better Equip, There is no EPIC equipment part that brings you superpowers. EVERY one can easily reach them.
I realy dont get the point of all these "iam getting ganked every time poeple" even the contested area is more then BIG ENOUGH,
I Play only Online and nearly the first thing ive done is going away from where the most players are, just to grow up, explorated a bit/sometimes a mission and searched a while but atleast ive found a gold mine constellation and mission hub, where it seems where no one ever was before, ok a Friend of mine also came as i talked to him, and ive done my trade runs with a Type6 and 104 tons full of gold and palladium ONLINE, never saw any other player minimal 100 ly away just on the traffic reports on station sometimes.
Ive made a few millions there ONLINE whitout ever being harassed from other Poeple.
Learn to Find your own Patch is the Keyword, Why should i stay at a overwalked place, with docking ques and an outjerked market from solo traders???
Poeple complaining about being ganked without ever being ganked, thats the point.
- There is no being Ganked, this is not WOW where High level players ganking low lvl players.
- This Is also not EVE where you got Ganked from 100+ Poeple blob, and there are also no skillpoints.
- Youre losing nearly nothing with being killed just a little Joke ammount in credits
- There is no One shoot kill like COD
The only Advantage over other Players is
Better Skill in controling your Spacecraft, and better Equip, There is no EPIC equipment part that brings you superpowers. EVERY one can easily reach them.
I realy dont get the point of all these "iam getting ganked every time poeple" even the contested area is more then BIG ENOUGH,
I Play only Online and nearly the first thing ive done is going away from where the most players are, just to grow up, explorated a bit/sometimes a mission and searched a while but atleast ive found a gold mine constellation and mission hub, where it seems where no one ever was before, ok a Friend of mine also came as i talked to him, and ive done my trade runs with a Type6 and 104 tons full of gold and palladium ONLINE, never saw any other player minimal 100 ly away just on the traffic reports on station sometimes.
Ive made a few millions there ONLINE whitout ever being harassed from other Poeple.
Learn to Find your own Patch is the Keyword, Why should i stay at a overwalked place, with docking ques and an outjerked market from solo traders???
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If you don`t like to be killed by a commander. Play solo. If you want to have the risk and the rush of playing against or with a maybe "superior" opponent/friend go for open play. But of course it hurts to loose it all against a human opponent, especially when they do it for fun or "grief". It gets personal for someThe bigger the pride the longer the fall
, but hey i`l take the chance for the "kick". Now the game is more stable so I play open. I like the "risk" of it.
I think the biggest problem for some is that they can loose progression in the game if other commanders kill them. By loosing credits it will take longer to get that Python or Anaconda. But all in all the reward will feel bigger and more rewarding when you know you are playing in a universe where you can meet other commanders and get "whooped"
This ^^^^ though tongue in cheek, is why people run to PvE groups and solo, and why those methods need to be there. The majority of people want to do open for the social, which was the original vision, not for the excitement of combat. You, my friend, are in a minority whose views spark the anti-PC-pirate hatred.
Use of Solo to run from Bounty Hunters is misuse of the system and the reason why this thread has a point, the only reason it has a point.
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let's see. it makes gankers loose interest in the game or at least, angry not being able to do so, aka no ganking fest as you can always avoid them. hmm.. i'm fine with that
there are no gankers in this game
- No this is not WOW, someone can grind out a kitted combat Anaconda (for example) in under a week and go looking for human miners with no guns (aka ganking them)
- No this is not EVE. you only need 1 person to ruin your day not 100
- You're losing more than credits if you can only play for 30 minutes a day, you will be losing months of work to the week old grinder exampled above.
- You can still be killed in under 10 seconds with the attacker having the advantage and with FSD spool up times being so slow - plus escape vectors in belts to find/follow
Just because YOU don't see anyone does not equal the rest of the player base being "safe". There are other threads where poeple talk about seeing 10+ other human players at time. My only time in open I seen 4 others and all most died to because of one of them annoy the station and I happened to be in the crossfire at the time.
Your experience is not shared by every one else, so being dismissive of others, it is not helping.
Absolutely agree. This is precisely why allowing people to switch between solo and open will not lead to people grinding in solo then bringing the gank to open. Solo offers no tangible benefit over open when it comes to gearing up, and whatever gear is transferred from solo to open will not help a poor player killing decent pilots.
Two blantant errors i'd say.
Ganking can happen when someone in (for example) a full equipped Imperial Clipper shooting up someone in a starter ship.
Joke amount in credits indeed if you have just started. If they have not fixed the gain 1000 credits on respawn bug then hey, they even gain. However, tell someone with a Type-6 and a cargo hold full of expensive items that its a joke amount, and wait for the expletives
But since you can't do that, we must conclude there is no point.
Oh yes, there are. Plenty of them have already posted about how they would be going along killing everyone they find. For the pure reason of killing them. And that is the definition of ganking.
And on a related note, the ONE thing that people who demand a pure always on (full pvp) server always seem to misunderstand is: People who play solo DONT do it to power up so they can come after you later. They do so to AVOID having to play with people whose sole interest it is to hunt and kill them. Everyone i talked to that says they play solo online or Mobius said they do it to be safe from gankers and griefers. NOONE wants to jump to open later just to 'give the pvp players some hell'. The only reason we/they MIGHT consider going for open would be for the community, NOT for the killing. That is the way PVP players think, not the way PVE players think. And if you make it the way you want it, having 2 completely separated servers, get ready for a REALLY empty open server because the HUGE majority of people will avoid it like the bloody hell.
Well... then.. erm. Shall we call this thread a day then???
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There is another good reason to go Solo - when you can't do uPNP... and hence PvP is impossible. (low bandwidth, hotels, guest wireless, wireless broadband...)
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killing a other cmndr even if he is in a starter ship is not ganking and its not griefing , its just a pvp fight.
im geussing you from the crowd who thinks all pvp fights should be "fair".
this my friend is open world sandbox
there are other games who simulated arena type of gameplay , but thats not really fun isnt it?
edit: we shall see after launch , prolly some 3rd party tool rais up to see how many ppl play on wich server
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Now I would have thought it better if they called the group Morpheus... as in "The Matrix has you..."
Robert Maynard
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From the DDA, players with Pilots' Federation bounties on their heads will be unable to play in any other mode than open.
That's kinda satisfying. Still brings up a problem. If you get in to such a situation, and then try to log in a low bandwidth situation, that will then preclude you from playing altogether...
Well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Seems like an action which will get you blacklisted real quick though.
MorkFromOrk
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Definition of ganking: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ganking
Solo ganking is a no-go.
P.S. I play Solo when i want to make money without risk. The result of that will be a much stronger ship to withstand attacks or to be able to perform bounty hunting. You seem to like making huge sweeping statements which ultimately makes them false.
Robert Maynard
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It does indeed. Sort of like an exclusion order for bad behaviour.... However that sort of restriction from play is probably not what Frontier intended (although it would be out of their control due to the fact that it would be the user's connection that is causing the issue) - I wonder if the game could assess repeated attempts to play in open and "decide" whether the player who should otherwise be restricted to open would be permitted to access solo until the connection improves.
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