GCS Sarasvati - early Thargoid lookout megaship

Saool

Saool
If this ship was sent out as an early warning system, then any others could be in any direction. I'd find it more likely that other such ships would not be in that area, but rather more directly spinward, trailward, rimward, upward, or downward.

That however would be a truly vast search area. I would think finding other beacons and messages might be a better way forward.
 

ModishNouns

ModishNouns
Saool said:
If this ship was sent out as an early warning system, then any others could be in any direction. I'd find it more likely that other such ships would not be in that area, but rather more directly spinward, trailward, rimward, upward, or downward.

That however would be a truly vast search area. I would think finding other beacons and messages might be a better way forward.
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I've had a bit of a poke around but my search has been by no means exhaustive.

ModishNouns said:
These are the four "compass points" of a circular plane with the Sarasvati at north:-

North...
"IC 4604 Sector FB-X c1-16" 61 182 566 0

East...
"Synuefe FF-M b41-0" 556 -60 -181 9
"Synuefe PC-T c20-3" 562 -64 -178 6
"Synuefe VL-J d10-104" 557 -63 -180 8
"Synuefe BZ-N b40-2" 568 -64 -190 9

South...
"Hind Sector KN-S b4-1" -58 -176 -562 6
"Hind Sector AQ-Y d39" -67 -175 -562 9
"Hind Sector KN-S b4-0" -62 -179 -561 5

West...
"Col 359 Sector XJ-Z d6" -567 63 172 9
"Col 359 Sector UT-Y c1-0" -565 68 183 8
"Col 359 Sector MC-Z b2-2" -563 68 180 7
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The Hind nebula still seems really likely to me but I haven't found anything yet.

Edit: The "Equinox Shell" (I'm gonna make that stick!) also intersects the original Guardian bubble.

ModishNouns said:
This is the intersection of the Equinox Shell and the Guardian Bubble:-

1RXS J083543.4-532123
1RXS J083624.5-540101
BB2009 IC2391-WFI-20-001
HIP 38789
IC 2391 PMM 5376
IC 2391 Sector AB-N b7-6
IC 2391 Sector AP-A b5
IC 2391 Sector BF-A c13
IC 2391 Sector BV-Y c2
IC 2391 Sector CA-Z b10
IC 2391 Sector DG-X c1-45
IC 2391 Sector DW-U b3-0
IC 2391 Sector FL-Y c0
IC 2391 Sector FL-Y c24
IC 2391 Sector FL-Y c6
IC 2391 Sector GW-V b2-11
IC 2391 Sector HM-U b3-0
IC 2391 Sector HW-W c1-18
IC 2391 Sector HW-W c1-39
IC 2391 Sector IB-X b1-0
IC 2391 Sector IE-V a17-3
IC 2391 Sector JX-S b4-12
IC 2391 Sector NI-Q a6-3
IC 2391 Sector RA-B a15-0
IC 2391 Sector RJ-P b6-4
IC 2391 Sector RO-O a7-0
IC 2391 Sector UD-B b9
IC 2391 Sector UJ-Q b5-6
IC 2391 Sector UT-Z b3
IC 2391 Sector VU-M a8-0
IC 2391 Sector WK-N b7-14
IC 2391 Sector XP-M a8-1
IC 2391 Sector YE-X a2-2
IC 2602 Sector AF-Z c48
IC 2602 Sector BV-Y d84
IC 2602 Sector EQ-W b2-7
IC 2602 Sector FB-X d1-27
IC 2602 Sector SN-S b4-8
IC 2602 Sector XT-N a8-0
Synuefe AU-E b45-0
Synuefe BZ-N b40-10
Synuefe CE-P b39-2
Synuefe CZ-P a87-4
Synuefe DJ-Q b38-3
Synuefe DP-X b47-2
Synuefe EF-Y c17-27
Synuefe EK-O a88-0
Synuefe EK-O a88-5
Synuefe FK-Z c16-10
Synuefe FK-Z c16-3
Synuefe FU-G b43-4
Synuefe FV-O c22-7
Synuefe FZ-Y a82-0
Synuefe GP-W b35-4
Synuefe GZ-X b34-5
Synuefe HQ-W c18-4
Synuefe IK-W b35-1
Synuefe JA-F b44-3
Synuefe JA-V b36-5
Synuefe JK-O b39-1
Synuefe JL-C b46-5
Synuefe JL-K b42-2
Synuefe JV-D b45-1
Synuefe KE-S a72-1
Synuefe LE-B a68-3
Synuefe LQ-L b41-7
Synuefe LW-U c19-10
Synuefe LW-U c19-20
Synuefe MB-W c18-18
Synuefe MG-X c17-1
Synuefe ML-L b41-3
Synuefe NL-L b41-2
Synuefe NL-L b41-7
Synuefe NP-D d13-24
Synuefe NR-U c19-26
Synuefe OG-T b37-2
Synuefe PB-T b37-7
Synuefe PQ-V b35-1
Synuefe PQ-V b35-3
Synuefe PR-K a90-0
Synuefe PR-K a90-4
Synuefe QK-Z a68-0
Synuefe RF-L d9-18
Synuefe RH-I b43-6
Synuefe RX-S c20-29
Synuefe SR-T a85-0
Synuefe SX-G b44-3
Synuefe TM-C b45-2
Synuefe TM-J b42-4
Synuefe TS-S c20-16
Synuefe TY-H c26-10
Synuefe TY-N b53-5
Synuefe UC-B b46-3
Synuefe VN-S c20-7
Synuefe VR-T b36-2
Synuefe VV-K d9-57
Synuefe VX-H b43-3
Synuefe WB-N a75-2
Synuefe WD-R c21-11
Synuefe WD-R c21-17
Synuefe WM-C a81-4
Synuefe XC-A b34-6
Synuefe XG-J d10-36
Synuefe XG-J d10-91
Synuefe XS-H b43-0
Synuefe XS-H b43-2
Synuefe YN-H b43-5
Synuefe YS-R a86-2
Synuefe ZT-Q c21-13
Synuefe ZW-V a70-1
Synuefe ZW-V a70-2
Synuefe ZX-J b41-2
Wregoe CN-X b42-5
Wregoe CR-L c21-0
Wregoe CX-Y b41-8
Wregoe DP-O a88-0
Wregoe EI-X b42-5
Wregoe ES-Y b41-7
Wregoe EW-E d11-50
Wregoe GD-X b42-3
Wregoe IC-D d12-39
Wregoe ID-G b38-4
Wregoe IH-U c16-11
Wregoe JJ-D b40-1
Wregoe KD-I c23-6
Wregoe KT-G c24-24
Wregoe KV-H b51-1
Wregoe KY-F b38-0
Wregoe MA-R b46-3
Wregoe ME-V b43-11
Wregoe MU-T b44-0
Wregoe OJ-G c24-37
Wregoe OT-O b33-2
Wregoe QK-T b44-10
Wregoe QU-E c25-26
Wregoe RD-K d8-39
Wregoe RP-C b40-3
Wregoe RT-Q c18-28
Wregoe SP-E c25-37
Wregoe SV-R b45-9
Wregoe SZ-M b34-1
Wregoe SZ-M b34-5
Wregoe TO-I d9-15
Wregoe TQ-Z b41-5
Wregoe TQ-Z b41-6
Wregoe VF-C b40-1
Wregoe VJ-I d9-57
Wregoe VL-Z b41-6
Wregoe WX-L b49-5
Wregoe XQ-A b41-4
Wregoe XU-G d10-36
Wregoe ZP-G d10-32
Wregoe ZQ-J b36-5

153 systems - actually manageable :)
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Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
Ozric
ModishNouns said:
The Hind nebula still seems really likely to me but I haven't found anything yet.
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I would be amazed if there's anything space based in the Hind Nebula, considering the Asteroid Base there the system has been visited a lot this last year.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
ModishNouns said:
I've had a bit of a poke around but my search has been by no means exhaustive.



The Hind nebula still seems really likely to me but I haven't found anything yet.

Edit: The "Equinox Shell" (I'm gonna make that stick!) also intersects the original Guardian bubble.
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The clue to Sarasvati was supposed to come from an LP (edit, at Jotunheim 7A). There should be more LPs pointing to the other Equinox/Thunderchild units, and those LPs will be nearer to Sol in a smaller volume to search. How about listing the systems within a shell (say 20 ly thick) the same radius as that LP? The shell thickness could be rduced if too many systems produced, or vice versa.
 
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Lobey

Lobey
MariusNocturnum said:
Wasn't the Thunder Child from H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds? It got blown up by martians while trying to protect a refugee rescue fleet of civilian vessels.

Perhaps this is an allusion to that? Rescuing Civilians from aliens, etc.
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Thunderchild succeeds in defeating Martian fighting machines long enough to let the civilians escape before herself being destroyed, it is the only recorded instance in the tale of humans "winning" against the Martians.
She was an Ironclad torpedo ram - the Royal Navy's "real life" equivalent was HMS Polyphemus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Polyphemus_(1881) ) - I'd be very interested in anything carrying the name Polyphemus we might find in game , would be an interesting easter egg.

Aldaris said:
Could also be a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Thunder_Child which frankly seems more likely.
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I'd be very surprised if that didn't draw from the HG Well's Thunderchild for it's name all things considered.

edit - now if we get a station attacked at some point - how cool would it be for Thunderchild to warp in and hold them off long enough for it to be evacuated ?
 
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simulacrae

simulacrae
Jorki Rasalas said:
The clue to Sarasvati was supposed to come from an LP (edit, at Jotunheim 7A). There should be more LPs pointing to the other Equinox/Thunderchild units, and those LPs will be nearer to Sol in a smaller volume to search. How about listing the systems within a shell (say 20 ly thick) the same radius as that LP? The shell thickness could be rduced if too many systems produced, or vice versa.
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Ya worth a shot .... Im back exploring the moon right now... Just checking there isnt a corrisponding installation on the surface.
 

Aldaris

A
Lobey said:
I'd be very surprised if that didn't draw from the HG Well's Thunderchild for it's name all things considered.

edit - now if we get a station attacked at some point - how cool would it be for Thunderchild to warp in and hold them off long enough for it to be evacuated ?
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All well and good, but the fact we've got a listening post thinking for itself, doesn't really add to a ship coming in helping an evacuation. We're not exactly short of ships.

It's clearly something else than a reference to War of the Worlds ironclad.
 

ModishNouns

ModishNouns
Jorki Rasalas said:
The clue to Sarasvati was supposed to come from an LP (edit, at Jotunheim 7A). There should be more LPs pointing to the other Equinox/Thunderchild units, and those LPs will be nearer to Sol in a smaller volume to search. How about listing the systems within a shell (say 20 ly thick) the same radius as that LP? The shell thickness could be rduced if too many systems produced, or vice versa.
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It's a bit heavy, tbh. I've done a 20 ly shell and zoned and sorted it so the 139s are near the top. Importing to Google lost all the smart data column trickery, unfortunately.

Jotunheim Shell
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
ModishNouns said:
It's a bit heavy, tbh. I've done a 20 ly shell and zoned and sorted it so the 139s are near the top. Importing to Google lost all the smart data column trickery, unfortunately.

Jotunheim Shell
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I thought that a search shell for LPs might be much smaller, with a lot fewer systems than your Equinox shell, but seeing the slow rate it scrolls down on my ipad screen I'm not sure. Will check later on the PC

Edit: 8443 systems? Well, I think Achenar could be immediately ruled out as any LP would have been immediately found. It's still a helluva long list!

Want to add another column for "searched" & make it editable so we can contribute?

Edit2: Interesting, just checked my EDD history & I was in Jotunheim on 6th September. I would have checked out an LP, so I wonder if it was just added with 2.4 (26 September)
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Jotunheim shell systems (plus a couple of others that were nearby & the mood so took me) visited this afternoon (nothing to report):
Spokare
Crucis Sector PN-T b3-0
Crucis Sector PN-T b3-1
Crucis Sector PN-T b3-5
Crucis Sector PN-T b3-6
Crucis Sector PN-T b3-3
Crucis Sector PN-T b3-4
Thrutti
Crucis Sector DL-Y d167
Tolistshiri
Dyavareldi
Bwena
Visto
Crucis Sector VO-R b4-4
Crucis Sector VO-R b4-5
Renet (stars A & B + their bodies only)
Crucis Sector UO-R b4-1
Novas
Crucis Sector IR-W c1-17
Xhosattu
Crucis Sector IR-W c1-22
Huaveri
 
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ModishNouns

ModishNouns
I suppose Sirius might still be deploying LPs but you'd expect new ones to be further out.

I got distracted by Taurus Dark but I think I'll head back and check a few of those systems out.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
ModishNouns said:
It auto-saves. Your changes are there :)
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a thought has occured to me while getting absolutely bored travelling 300-500ls to secondary stars in the vain hope of finding a listening post. The Equinox shell is from Galcop days, so centred on Sol, but the LP that detected Sarasvati is probably one of the hundreds that Sirius Corp recently sent out around the galaxy (though I suspect mainly around the bubble)- so the Jotunheim shell should be centred on Sirius rather than Sol. Don't expect it will make much difference to the list but it might be significant.

And do we have any indication why the LPs were sited where they are- might help to cut down the search space
 
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ModishNouns

ModishNouns
Jorki Rasalas said:
a thought has occured to me while getting absolutely bored travelling 300-500ls to secondary stars in the vain hope of finding a listening post. The Equinox shell is from Galcop days, so centred on Sol, but the LP that detected Sarasvati is probably one of the hundreds that Sirius Corp recently sent out around the galaxy (though I suspect mainly around the bubble)- so the Jotunheim shell should be centred on Sirius rather than Sol. Don't expect it will make much difference to the list but it might be significant.

And do we have any indication why the LPs were sited where they are- might help to cut down the search space
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Hah, I know what you mean. While I was cruising back and forth last night I started to wish I'd never suggested it :D

I think the range of search radius would be quite a bit thicker than we are searching, too, as I doubt they'd be that precise in locating LPs. Maybe there are other patterns in the LP locations chosen by Galcop or Sirius (let's face it, FDev)
 
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