Modes Get off Solo/Private groups and onto Open play!

I agree, and also after experimenting with it in the test universe... haven't touched it since.

I've done some lvl3 upgrades, because I happened to have the stuff and engineers open (the aint great upgrades, but better than stock).
But I'm not farming / grinding for mats, to then sit farming / grinding rolls for upgrades.

RNG on top of RNG isn't game play, it's taking the mick.
If either the mats collection were RNG and the upgrades fixed, or the mats collection was fixed with the upgrades RNG it wouldn't be so bad.
Because at least you could plan part of the process.

But as it stand, it is possible to spend 4 weeks collecting, 12 hours rolling stats and finish with something hardly any better that what you had to start with.
And FD think that is "rewarding game play". Dunno what they have in their water in Cambridge, but they should switch to bottled.
 
I've done some lvl3 upgrades, because I happened to have the stuff and engineers open (the aint great upgrades, but better than stock).
But I'm not farming / grinding for mats, to then sit farming / grinding rolls for upgrades.

RNG on top of RNG isn't game play, it's taking the mick.
If either the mats collection were RNG and the upgrades fixed, or the mats collection was fixed with the upgrades RNG it wouldn't be so bad.
Because at least you could plan part of the process.

But as it stand, it is possible to spend 4 weeks collecting, 12 hours rolling stats and finish with something hardly any better that what you had to start with.
And FD think that is "rewarding game play". Dunno what they have in their water in Cambridge, but they should switch to bottled.


Hey now I was on the Cambridgeshire Water System :p
 
I've done some lvl3 upgrades, because I happened to have the stuff and engineers open (the aint great upgrades, but better than stock).
But I'm not farming / grinding for mats, to then sit farming / grinding rolls for upgrades.

RNG on top of RNG isn't game play, it's taking the mick.
If either the mats collection were RNG and the upgrades fixed, or the mats collection was fixed with the upgrades RNG it wouldn't be so bad.
Because at least you could plan part of the process.

But as it stand, it is possible to spend 4 weeks collecting, 12 hours rolling stats and finish with something hardly any better that what you had to start with.
And FD think that is "rewarding game play". Dunno what they have in their water in Cambridge, but they should switch to bottled.

It's incredibly hard water. All that extra calcium and magnesium makes us a bit more loopy than other parts of the country. This includes the willingness to pay extortionate amounts of money for rent, be friendly to the environment, enjoy that slight hint of chalk flavour from the skin that forms at the top of a cup of tea made with the water in the area, and an altered view of reality.
 
It's incredibly hard water. All that extra calcium and magnesium makes us a bit more loopy than other parts of the country. This includes the willingness to pay extortionate amounts of money for rent, be friendly to the environment, enjoy that slight hint of chalk flavour from the skin that forms at the top of a cup of tea made with the water in the area, and an altered view of reality.

Hey, we get scum on our tea too... repulsive!.. it looks like cheap frothy coffee.
 
You know you've reached a certain age and you think to yourself what you would give to be able to live and work in a soft water area

Warwickshire doesn't have much going for it, but with Shakespeare, George Eliot (Mary Ann Evans) and decent water - it's an okay place to live :)

I don't even Calgon for my washing machine to live longer ! :D
 
Without wishing to derail this thread completely, you are saving on detergent, use 1 granule of soap powder for the weeks washing... but ya gotta rinse it twice as many times
 
UK living ain't for the timid

Depends, those on the inside of the M25 seem to be softies.
I think that's why those who cannot handle the rest of the UK move there ;)

Real Brits live outside of the M25.
With our bread and dripping sandwiches, tea you can run a horse and cart over and pass time of watching Last of the Summer Wine or football.
And when the sun sets we swap our tea for a nice cold Carling or Stella, grab a curry or Chinese and chill out with our SO to a bit of Eastenders / Corrie.
Then walk the Staffie before bed (taking the can of beer with you, because it's a waste to leave it) and start again the next day.

:D
 
Depends, those on the inside of the M25 seem to be softies.
I think that's why those who cannot handle the rest of the UK move there ;)

Real Brits live outside of the M25.
With our bread and dripping sandwiches, tea you can run a horse and cart over and pass time of watching Last of the Summer Wine or football.
And when the sun sets we swap our tea for a nice cold Carling or Stella, grab a curry or Chinese and chill out with our SO to a bit of Eastenders / Corrie.
Then walk the Staffie before bed (taking the can of beer with you, because it's a waste to leave it) and start again the next day.

:D

Excuse me Sir, but is that English you are speaking? I didn't understand one bit of it. ;)

I heard/read one time where someone was discussing the English and Americans and made the comment that they are 'two people seperated by a common language'. :D

When I worked for Meggitt (here in the US) I used to tease some of the engineers in Britain with whom I worked on projects with. All in good fun of course. Never did get the chance to go over to visit though.
 
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Depends, those on the inside of the M25 seem to be softies.
I think that's why those who cannot handle the rest of the UK move there ;)

Real Brits live outside of the M25.
With our bread and dripping sandwiches, tea you can run a horse and cart over and pass time of watching Last of the Summer Wine or football.
And when the sun sets we swap our tea for a nice cold Carling or Stella, grab a curry or Chinese and chill out with our SO to a bit of Eastenders / Corrie.
Then walk the Staffie before bed (taking the can of beer with you, because it's a waste to leave it) and start again the next day.

:D

That is sooo 1999 council estate!
 
Outfit your ship against NPC's. That do nothing. And you dont have to fight your opponents.

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You get extra benefits for choosing solo and private because you dont need any defenses.

I'm gonna challenge you on the above, which you keep repeating as if it's gospel truth and everyone posting here is stupid.

1. NPCs do not do nothing.
2. Definitely need defenses.

You must realize this is hyperbole. Perhaps you stride the stars like a god and all ships kneel to you, but there's plenty of people (probably the majority) who have enough fun with NPCs and certainly pack shields and armaments for defense. Not everyone can be like you. Not everyone wants to be like you. You certainly must recognize this truth. Not everyone wants to git gud. Shocking, I know, but still true.

I'd think more about whatever it is you're talking about if you didn't throw in these huge b̶u̶l̶l̶p̶u̶c̶k̶y̶ misstatements regularly.
 
How about people wanting to pp in open do so and try to convince other pvp to only use open too. Surely both groups want pvp encounters so should be easy to get a honour system going between the pvp groups to only work pp/bgs in open; simple.

If the problem is pvp groups not willing to honour such a deal, then surely that's a problem for the pvp groups involved, no need to get angry or take features away from others.

You have just reduced this, and about 57289 similar threads, to the base question. Unfortunately, this will be fruitless.

I, and many others, have reasoned this out many times. From my years of gameplay, I'd expect the PvPers to go up against other PvPers in PVP clashes that bring boasting rights, if not more l00+. I'd expect them to talk it up, have competing forum threads, announce all the big rumbles publicly a week before and get the YouTubers and fan-reporters salivating at the bit; maybe a leetle wager here and there, etc.

Because what good is it to hunt deer with an AK-47 with an illegal bump stock? It's no challenge a one-year-old couldn't do (with some help aiming). It's not "glorious PvP," it's chickenguff. There's no pride or honor involved.

It brings nothing to the game except reasons for people to leave the game, and that is not in the interest of the game, nor its players.

Also unfortunately, this proposal, commonsense as it is, is completely ignored by one side in the argument.

There. Saved you reading about 375 other threads on this subject :/
 

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I'm gonna challenge you on the above, which you keep repeating as if it's gospel truth and everyone posting here is stupid.

1. NPCs do not do nothing.
2. Definitely need defenses.

You must realize this is hyperbole. Perhaps you stride the stars like a god and all ships kneel to you, but there's plenty of people (probably the majority) who have enough fun with NPCs and certainly pack shields and armaments for defense. Not everyone can be like you. Not everyone wants to be like you. You certainly must recognize this truth. Not everyone wants to git gud. Shocking, I know, but still true.

I'd think more about whatever it is you're talking about if you didn't throw in these huge b̶u̶l̶l̶p̶u̶c̶k̶y̶ misstatements regularly.

A fair number of players need to understand that each human being on this earth is different, and yes, that does mean a fair few players struggle against NPCs.

Just because one guy finds it "easy", does not everyone does.

Indeed, some people are simply of a mental and physical build that quite literally prevents them from being "good" as some put it. However, despite this, they still purchased this game as an equal on a consumer level. The "bad" players have just as much right to extract pleasure from the game as the "good" players.
 
it's about private modes undercutting the whole concept of territory control, reducing it to a waste of time that most won't bother doing.

Frontier has repeatedly said, from the very beginning, that there will be no "owning" of common assets in the game. Never. This has been repeated at least a dozen times or more by FD. No territorial control. Nada. Zip. Zilch. You're barking up the wrong tree.
 
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