Modes Get off Solo/Private groups and onto Open play!

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Even less keen to play in open than I was previously now that FD seem to be adding a map filter that shows commander activity levels per system, ostensibly for finding trade routes but probably much more useful for hunting down players to shoot at........
 

ALGOMATIC

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Garfs said:
it's ironic - the few people that are In open are complaint that there aren't enough players in open - but it's the majority of their actions that have caused this
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Who is complaining? Go to the current CG in nu tauri, there are at least 10cmdrs in SC, 10 more in haz res and 10 more at the station, go and check for yourself. Noone is ever complained that open is empty, if it would be I wouldn't be playing because my content is other players.
 

Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
Jockey79 said:
And they were told this was going to happen years ago.
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Indeed!

I am very minded of web pages that moan you are using an ad-blocker and depriving them of their well-earned revenue that they so richly deserve.

If web pages hadn't gotten so greedy with atrocious and poorly thought out space and bandwidth wasters, it's unlikely the issue would ever have arisen. Of course, then they moan that without support from ads their copy-paste clickbait pages could not survive, and it's all our fault for not consuming ad content and we should be ashamed.

Let it die slowly in a cold and lonely place - it's content that enlightens nobody, brings nothing new, and will never be missed.

Mindless pew-pew is uncannily similar.
 

Jockey79

Jockey79
ALGOMATIC said:
Who is complaining? Go to the current CG in nu tauri, there are at least 10cmdrs in SC, 10 more in haz res and 10 more at the station, go and check for yourself. Noone is ever complained that open is empty, if it would be I wouldn't be playing because my content is other players.
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Your gripe was more focused on Power Play and how it interacts with the mode system right?
(I really should keep a list of who has what gripe)

Others however do complain there is not enough people in Open Mode, and while we do not see that as often now. It does still pop up from time to time.
And of course with Sandro once looking towards trying to nudge folks to open with artificial boosts - it did spur the discussion on that there were not enough people playing in open overall.

I think I may have quoted you a few weeks ago to counter another PvP'er who was complaining of this very thing with the aged old "open is dead" rubbish.
If I recall, I went with something along the lines of they should "check with other PvP'ers first, so not to have contradictory arguments on the go" then put your quote of open being busy.
Or something to this effect.
 

Mouse

Mouse
Rampant said:
And as for Algo's statement that for survival - "all it takes is prismatic shields". What are these "prismatic shields" of which you speak. Again, quite a few players will not game the game like the PvP fraternity and hop between powers just for the gear. It is clear, however, that it is the PvP fraternity are the most willing to game the system by joining a power just for the gear and for no other reason and then move on to the next power for the next gear, and then the *next* power, just for the gear, etc... That isn't the point of PP, but it has been subverted by the gamey types, but no real surprise there, is there?
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And yet they are the ones who also tend to complain that "others" are doing it.

Dietger said:
Indeed there are Robert Maynard and one, with but one rule, to rule them all !


:p
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Yet can't rule any..otherwise the "open needs incentives, Open only needs to be the only mode, etc " wouldn't exist

Dietger said:
And yet, in Open, you do.
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False statement... even if everyone was in open and on at the same time you are severely limited.
 

Dietger

Dietger
Mouse said:
And yet they are the ones who also tend to complain that "others" are doing it.




Yet can't rule any..otherwise the "open needs incentives, Open only needs to be the only mode, etc " wouldn't exist



False statement... even if everyone was in open and on at the same time you are severely limited.
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The above was meant figuratively. Sure I am aware of instancing, the technical side of things.

Open has just as well the same game rules as the other modes, the "one rule to rule them all" is of course the liberty, to encounter mere strangers, underlying the potential conflict. Not, to grief, gank and hector, no.....
 

Mouse

Mouse
Dietger said:
The above was meant figuratively. Sure I am aware of instancing, the technical side of things.

Open has just as well the same game rules as the other modes, the "one rule to rule them all" is of course the liberty, to encounter mere strangers, underlying the potential conflict. Not, to grief, gank and hector, no.....
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In PGs that people have joined anyone has the liberty to encounter and play with mere strangers .. Open does not hold the that in unto itself
 

Helvellyn

Helvellyn
Garfs said:
many times - i've played since gpp and have a lot of ships & money

BUT every time i try open - i run into gank squads and it just ends up costing me rebuys - and adds nothing to my enjoyment of the game

So i generally avoid
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It's happened to me, oh, twice (not that I spend much time around inhabited areas, and often go for months without playing at all). I find dodging them part of the fun, although it's rather annoying that you've got to spend ages engineering to stand much of a chance in a fight (and the second of those two times was just now, lost the interdiction despite there being more blue than red - probably iffy network, but a PITA regardless).
 

Mike Reacher

Mike Reacher
Kalie said:
OK I have to admit i am a little confused here.

This thread was started by people who want to do away with solo/pg hence the title of the thread, so Dietger the people you are telling to blame themselves for their choices are the ones that by their actions and choices have caused people to leave open.

But people are saying to blame FDev (i think even you did at one point could be wrong tho) so you are confusing me.

The choices of modes are a brilliant idea and go a long way to making the game playable by diverse groups of people even as far as how they are feeling any particular time they play the game. These choices are a reason we got this game. And the only blame seems to come from the people who are mad others choose not to play with them.

People are saying they dont want to play in open because its too much of a hassle (some days it can be other days its great) they are not complaining about choosing PG/Solo just the open people are complaining they dont play with them.

So I am not even sure what is actually being said here anymore.

Open can be fun but not necessarily more fun than PG so nothing is lost by going to PG Solo only looses the interaction of other players and the people (even me from time to time) dont miss anything when they play in that mode because its what they want. So the liberty of the modes is one of the best things about this game.

I fail to see why people get upset over the modes others play in.

Open seems to be the only ones complaining and deriding other players for choosing the "Easy" mode (what a joke that is) or they are hiding or they should git good (maybe the people saying that are gits?)
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I find open to be a pita. I land. Go have tea and cake. A cmdr has sent me a few words to vacate the pad! Damn, I hate upsetting people! :eek:

Garfs said:
it's ironic - the few people that are In open are complaint that there aren't enough players in open - but it's the majority of their actions that have caused this
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Plenty of players in Solo. They are called NPCs and half of them want my cargo. Poor fools! :D



ALGOMATIC said:
Who is complaining? Go to the current CG in nu tauri, there are at least 10cmdrs in SC, 10 more in haz res and 10 more at the station, go and check for yourself. Noone is ever complained that open is empty, if it would be I wouldn't be playing because my content is other players.
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Shoot! Only thirty players in open? No wonder it seems unpopulated! :D When evvvaaahhh I play open, only NPCs show up. 2 years and crossed 3 cmdrs! Sheesh!

Majic-12 said:
This thread has it all backwards. Everyone should join me in Solo Mode.

Then I won't be alone anymore.
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I'm in solo. Find me and we can wing up. Really give those NPCs a headache! :D

Wolf Starslayer said:
If they grandfather in a pvp advantage then I may well give up and join you in solo.
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Great! That makes three! Of course, I'm already there. Catch me if you can! 3 in solo. Should be fun! :D
 
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