TO THOSE WHO WANT SOLO BANNED
if there was no solo, there are THOUSANDS of us who would never have bought the game, or contributed to the startup funds. i have NEVER played in open and never will. the reason is, for every 'real' player pirate who is only after some cargo and realises they need the traders to survive and make SOME money for them to want to keep playing, there are hundreds of little kids (and they are all little immature kids even if they are not actually that young). they have grown up doing stupid things in games, and finding it funny. they are also known as griefers in second life and trolls on social media.
they fail to think. because they dont think, they dont stop to understand that its NOT the same as going on a murder spree and killing everything in a town in skyrim. there are no real bad consequences for their actions - sure the bounty and bounty hunters in elite, and skyrim fines in the holds and guard hostility; but in skyrim you arent going to be not play at all. you just start a new game if you cant handle world wide hostility, because you cant pay the fine.
so they dont see other players in second life or elite:dangerous as PLAYERS, or as real people who have invested a lot of time and effort and in second life often REAL MONEY in their sim and avatar. to them its all a game and everyone except themselves and their friends is exactly the same as the cops in GTA. they dont even think (and the ones that do are so immature they either refuse to think about the harm to others because they dont want to face up to their own conscience or they are sociopathic and dont care) that they are ruining other peoples play. they certainly dont want to think about the fact they are causing economic damage to the owners of the games they are ruining 'for the lols'.
star wars battlefront is currently rife with players cheating with aimbots, who simply avoid thinking about or dont care about the fact they are destroying the PC version of the game long before the rest of the DLC come out. its a good comparison to this game; both have fans of the game/movies of years past, and you can guarantee almost none of the fans wanted an online only game and would never dream of doing anything like the cheating in battlefront, or just going around destroying players just starting who have no chance even to run let alone defend themselves. in star wars battlefront this has led to a mass exodus of the PC players.
it hasnt so far on elite beccause elite has solo mode, and if you take that away i think those who play it exclusively will want a full refund, and i for one would never have bought the game if it was purely an MMO. i have come to like solo, how i can contribute to community goals and only have npc pirates to deal with, and how i could try and affect the news on the GalNet, even the powerplay, and that other players like me even though i will never see them, have helped influence the galaxy; not needing to deal some 10 year old loser with his pals, who dont realise their actions make the game a chore rather than fun for other players and ultimately DRIVE PLAYERS AWAY.
i dont play games to be annoyed and frustrated and never get anywhere. why wouldnt i quit a game where someone makes it no fun at all? why should i BUY such a game? this also leads to people pirating games not to make money selling them, but because they want to try it first as a demo to see if it has the problems this thread is about. and that harms the game producers, by hitting them financially.
throw in some people with even more severe psychiatric problems (than those immature losers who kill other players for fun); bullies, or those who look for percieved insults or a grudge against others so they have a manufactured excuse to harrass them in game (again mentioned by the original poster). people like that need to seek help because they often are a real physical danger to people in real life. its a fine line between harassing and bullying and stalking.
i can play world of warcraft if i want an MMO. and at least there people cant go around doing ganking (whatever that is) and griefing - you can set yourself to PvE and you then can be challenged to a duel and you have a choice to accept. and they have pvp zones also. i can choose to avoid them, and just group with other players to do dungeons. i can see other players around there and we can stop and chat. or eliminate the evil and secretive chickens that infest towns before their evil plots can hatch... in elite i have solo mode, then i never have to deal with a player directly.
i looked at mobius, and i like the idea, and may try that at some point. but im having fun exploring out of the bubble right now, and how likely is it im going to meet players out there? even in mobius. and most importantly of all i can have fun and no way for anyone else to ruin it either by constantly harassing me (still possible without violence if i was in a group like mobius) or destroying me because they dont see me as someone who is real and has real feelings, because im just a particularly challenging NPC to them since thats all they are used to apart from battlefield online.
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sorry for the wall of text, but its how annoyed i get when the people who are making the game no fun to play, and BY THEIR OWN ACTIONS drive people to either play solo or quit, then complain about solo! if you dont like it, STOP BEING A P---k. and stop complaining about solo, where those you are bullying take sanctuary so they can at least enjoy the game a little bit, if not how they wanted. nothing in this whole thread has convinced me to change my mind about never playing open. its made me glad i have a solo mode. if you are annoyed reading this post then you know we all mean YOU. and YOU are the reasons people go to solo. you only have yourselves to blame. you dont want PvP or you would play arena - but wait there is no chance of you having a far more powerful ship in that meaning you might actually LOSE...
pirates should be created by desperate circumstance, not a career choice by people who have credits, or a ship capable of exploring.
