Give us freedom, the same as EvE. Consigne the universe to the players, FD

I would love being able to do this. As it is I have a sticky note on my monitor to keep me reminded where Home is. Been thinking of maybe printing out a picture of the station though and keeping that on my desk for the long trade runs.

Though One thing I would like to see is just the ability to join a Galactic wide comms channel. Or even an in game BBS that you can access in ship while in a system with a Nav Beacon or something. Just something so I could talk with other people in game without having to alt-tab out to the forums....HECK I would even accept an in game widget thingy that allows access to these forums while in game. As it is now the breadth of my social interaction in game has been chats with other commanders waiting in line at a station which usually consists of: "gee this guy is taking forever". I'd love more without having to go too far out of my way from my home system.

yep simple things like chat....waypoints .....set home location...have a group name identifyer seen ... these are basic 1990 game mechanics and they werte called for in beta and ignored or shouted down
 
Here's an idea (sorry if it's been mentioned, didn't read through it all):

Try it the other way around, ask CCP to introduce ED's first person flight model into Eve.

I'm sure they won't mind such a minor tweak to their core game, and can do it in an afternoon or so....and voila, you have your dream game.

I wouldn't be surprised - they actually experimenting with WSAD controls. If they will manage to incorporate Valkyrie into the base EVe game... that would be something.

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As it happens I totally agree I have found the EVE community in game amongst the best I have played in without a shadow of a doubt. There are ats there like any game online but overall the community ingame is mature, helpful, and intelligent. Just like here generally.

Yes and yes Commander. I have a similar good expirience.
 
I wouldn't be surprised - they actually experimenting with WSAD controls. If they will manage to incorporate Valkyrie into the base EVe game... that would be something.

I am of course aware of the introduction of WASD controls into Eve, but that's a far cry from being anything like the flight model ED has. :)

My point was, why post here to make ED more like Eve, instead of posting on Eve's forum and ask to make it more like ED (with regard to cockpit view flying that is).
 
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OK Ill have a go

1) I want ED to be a game where after say 2/3 months of intensive play anyone can acquire good enough (not necessarily the best) kit to go toe-to-toe with anyone else in the game, with the outcome decided mostly by skill and tactical savy.

2) I do not want ED to be a game where there is content that requires me to have permission from another player to access, if someone wants to stop me doing something in the game then we settle it as men (or women), in our ships.

3) I do not want ED to be a game where players can make investments or have any form of passive income in order to amass and sustain huge fortunes - every credit should be earned in personal piloting hours.

1) The game has so low depth its possible before 2 months. Cause after 2 week you have finished the game. Ahem grinding

2) Instead just circumnavigate other players with solo, totally making their game play profession useless

3) Mmhmm right at this moment im making 13/mil hour while typing. Almost passive but not quite.. gg
 
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I wouldn't be surprised - they actually experimenting with WSAD controls. If they will manage to incorporate Valkyrie into the base EVe game... that would be something./QUOTE]

I am of course aware of the introduction of WASD controls into Eve, but that's a far cry from being anything like the flight model ED has. :)

My point was, why post here to make ED more like Eve, instead of posting on Eve's forum and ask to make it more like ED (with regard to cockpit view flying that is).

Everyone should go to the SC forums now and petition that game to be these other two games plus itself put together. It's still indev, maybe there's better odds.
 
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Everyone knows that EVE is one of the greatest space games of all time there's no denying it, its been around for over ten years with a steady player base, its a very successful game and any space game entrapenures should take notes from it, Ive already stopped playing elite dangerous cause it got boring really quick made it up to python and just said ok cool and now i done for a while, when more features and game-play is added ill be back, but for now im out untill we as the player have more control over the universe.

This game is for the most part a space trucking sim and i can do that in EvE with a "player controlled market", unlike ED. even the new stuff coming out in the future whats it called " events "? are going to be built around space trucking. not the game for me my python is docked and waiting for content and when it arrives ill be back.

Same here, got a python kitted and nice ship too i might add,too bad i dont want to blast another 1k ships, and its a shame really because the combat is pretty much the current and only meat in this skeleton. Grind (trade in this case) reward ratio is underwhelming, i might look past that IF there were a tons of feats and content too drool about. I might as well go back into X3 TC/AP + zillion mods. and ill come time to time and check out has ED been improved upon. Btw, remember when before the launch forums was on flames about how ED is not finished for and should not be released from anything from 6months to 1 year, where are those people now? Gone ?
 
No need, thats the plan for SC - at least it looks like it. But if it works - we will see.

Hehe, you mind editing that ? You put my name atop somebody else's comment.

I never said a word about SC. ;)

Edit: Thank you very much, i mess up quotes more than enough myself.
 
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No need, thats the plan for SC - at least it looks like it. But if it works - we will see.

Well then here's hoping that throwing monies at something will finally pay off for once. :D

Edit: You got it Kayweg; getting some weird quote recursion artifacts going on here. Your post too. :D
 
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Here's a suggestion: Before shutting the lad down lets sincerely hear what he's requesting. He enjoys ED as a game but wants players to be able to play a larger role in the world. Perhaps instead of telling him to go play EVE someone might explain why they don't want an EVE style player-shaped world.
Agreed. Quite frankly I'm getting annoyed with the behaviour of some of the people on these forums.

Anyway I agree with the OP. I've never played Eve, don't want to - but would like the ED universe to evolve on its own so I can influence it at my will.
 
its kinda like how the 84's all tell everyone to go back to eve...so ya reap what ya sow i guess

and all guilds /groups arent like what you described so thats a 1 dimensional analogy at best... although i support your right to say it

It's not like that at all. A lot of people funded ED based on what Braben said at the time, and the core gameplay is still the same (he is on record as saying that he didn't want ED to force people to join guilds etc). What's happening is there are people repeatedly starting new threads quite aggressively demanding that ED becomes more like Eve, dismissing anyone who says otherwise and stating as fact that the only way for ED to be successful is to become like [x]. Your rather dismissing use of the "84s" tag is indicative of the problem - I was 4 at the time, so it's not like I'm just longing for a bygone era. I've played plenty of MMOs, from back in the early Everquest days through to WoW - and guilds were basically mandatory for endgame content. I've never played Eve but from what I've been told it's effectively mandatory to be part of a corporation. Is that not the case?
 
Well then here's hoping that throwing monies at something will finally pay off for once. :D

Edit: You got it Kayweg; getting some weird quote recursion artifacts going on here. Your post too. :D

i threw money at both as they both were headed in the right direction.... wish ED hadnt chosen p2p ...shortsighted and tbph a stupid choice
 
i threw money at both as they both were headed in the right direction.... wish ED hadnt chosen p2p ...shortsighted and tbph a stupid choice

Hey, I won't disagree with you on that architecture as a very limiting factor in what can be pulled off going forward. And the marketing which hyped the MP aspects before they you know, made many of the MP aspects viable (or existent). I don't have any rose-tinted shades. But I also didn't have to fund the architecture either.

If SC gives what Elite doesn't I'll be fine with that too. I just don't believe pounding the peg into the wrong pegboard hole really hard is going to accomplish much else but more friction threads like this one.
 
It's not like that at all. A lot of people funded ED based on what Braben said at the time, and the core gameplay is still the same (he is on record as saying that he didn't want ED to force people to join guilds etc). What's happening is there are people repeatedly starting new threads quite aggressively demanding that ED becomes more like Eve, dismissing anyone who says otherwise and stating as fact that the only way for ED to be successful is to become like [x]. Your rather dismissing use of the "84s" tag is indicative of the problem - I was 4 at the time, so it's not like I'm just longing for a bygone era. I've played plenty of MMOs, from back in the early Everquest days through to WoW - and guilds were basically mandatory for endgame content. I've never played Eve but from what I've been told it's effectively mandatory to be part of a corporation. Is that not the case?

i was there mate since beta opened and the 84 crowd shouted down anyone that suggested mordn features....and the gameplay has evolved quite a bit since then....he also sold this as a mmmo and muliplayer ands so many other features that either arent ingame or have never worked properly for more then a few days at best....ive been in mmos since jumpgate mate im no newb here .

the game needs mordern features and the infrastructure to support them...no on has to be in a guild or a group...but atm since the lack of features we cant at all ...we want the option the freedom to be affiliated with who we want...

i dont want anyone to have to do anything including being unable to play with mates...as it is right now

modern features...group/social/clan features interactions
 
Eve in 2003 and Eve in 2015 is not the same game.

E: D has been out couple of months only. Can we let Elite mature in whatever the design and development team has envisioned. But no, everyone is a game designer today.

Why people can't accept that two games can be different from each other? (Oh wait, can we have some Starcraft elements in Elite as well? Zerg rushes?)

You know game designers, screenplay writers, book writers have a vision, and they should go with the vision they've mapped in-front of them and not get persuaded by 'public opinion' . Can you imagine if George RR Martin would allow a game forum to write his books?

I know I am enjoying the ride so far, and I am excited by future planet landings and a lot of the stuff from the DDA.

Just be patient, the game launched last month.
 
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