Don't you have Skype/TS/Facebook/reddit/forums/IRC/phone/next sofa contact data for your real friends? That's such a shame.
Give us freedom, the same as EvE. Consigne the universe to the players, FD
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Don't you have Skype/TS/Facebook/reddit/forums/IRC/phone/next sofa contact data for your real friends? That's such a shame.
I personnally think that some EvE features or anything else that can improve the game is welcome! Why the hell the game would be so different if there is some EvE in it? EvE is an excellent game and I like ED aswell BUT it's true that it lacks of some features for now so why not? You can keep playing as you are now if you like it but I would like to see more interaction too and see more people! This game is great and has a HUGE potential to be so much greater! Some classics gameplay styles are welcome even if it's in EvE! ;-) I want to see more epicness, more stories to tell, more heartbeats! I just want to run to my home after the lessons just to play the game! I just hope it will be compatible with how the game is implemented for now! Sorry guys for my english it's not my native! 
Robert Maynard
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You should listen to what DBOBE has to say on the matter of guilds/corps/clans (from 20:33):
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Rep for you, sir!
The number of ignorant posts in this thread is a sad indictment of this community. It's like the past 30 years of evolution in gaming have never happened and some grumpy old men just want to relive their youth on their own. Go play Solo! Stop moaning because you're no longer gaming pioneers but people who woke up one day and realised that the world has overtaken you.
Well to be fair if player coordination wasn't important then 1.2 wings wouldn't be such a big deal. it clearly does matter to have SOME game support for it - though one can argue to what extent.
Having never played Eve I can't comment on how 1 & 2 might fit into ED within your understanding of what it would entail, although they do not seem too controversial, I do believe there will be a player trade system, its mentioned in the DDF and says you can even try to scam players within the game rules.
There is a lot of content to come, I hope wings & much better comms will calm the forums a little and many other things that should have really been in at release in an ideal world.
They chose to go with P2P rather than C/S, it is what it is they must have had reasons I doubt they flipped a coin to chose, maybe one day they will be able to double the instances to 64 who knows, what I do know is I would rather they fix the bugs, get wings tested and in the game for everyone & working well, introduce the content / improvements that they were hoping to be there at launch.
Once they have "caught up" to where they want to be with the things from the DDF that they want in the game I would hope the focus would be the expansions (Bought mine with the PB), lots of people have paid for them already (and its an obvious future revenue stream as many will not have).
Once all that has happened, sometime next year at a guess FD might have some time to look into the type of changes being discussed (or not), but if SC is in a reasonable state before it may not be an issue any more.
PFFT, David Braben says a lot of things - very few of them have turned up in the game.
Robert Maynard
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If few of the things that he has mentioned, as you suggest, have turned up in the game, how likely is it, do you think, that something that he has specifically said that he does not want to see in the game will be implemented?
You are absolutely right - being able to fly around reliably with full text and voice comms - in a group of 4 or 5 friends would definitely add to the game - and by implementing that it obviously has the devs support. I'm looking forward to testing it. You still however, have to actually get into proximity with each other to make it work, and I really hope they never come up with some "fast travel to pew-pew land" nonsense.
That still doesn't make them guilds though - and I am still absolutely against any support for those.
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That's a quite odd reaction - its normal I think that players wants to socialize and chat IN the bloody game without using external tools?
The Idea that every Game has to do "X and Y because thats what others do" is a bit ridiculous. They may be good Ideas, because why not, but if the Devs of Game A want to something diffrent then the Devs from Game B it may not make sense.
And seriously, when every game set in Space with Ships players fly around do the same things it would be really sad for the Genre as a whole. Eve was pretty much the only new thing for quite a while (not littlerly, but almost), but now comes ED (and it is diffrent then Eve), and next comes No Mans Sky (its even more diffrent!) and then SC (it looks like its a mix between eve and ED).
That at least are the 3 Major well know ones, and even have three of them with so much attention from the general public is great! And its great that they are not all the same - because there are many diffrent Gamers with diffrent tastes. We not all like the same stuff in Games (as one can see in this Forum) so isn't it great that there are so diffrent Games set in Space, so we all can have something to like?
There really is nothing wrong when you want something more like Eve, thats why Eve is there. But I get, its out for a while now, and you may want more ED like Ships controls and it looks like there will be SC for that. Does it not look very good for you if thats the sort of Game you want?
But its not the Game I want, what I want is a Game like Elite, and thats why I'm really happy ED does Exist right here and now. Sure, its not perfect, far from it, there is lots to complain about and lots to do for the Devs, but its a Game made for somebody like me and I will always be against turning it into game not for me (its only natural).
So yeah, I really don't get it. I know the "Its not a game for you so play something else" things gets old and it really is silly, but why buying a Game that so obvious isn't doing what you want and then complain its not doing what you want? Eve is not doing what I want so I never bought Eve, I found that to be so simple.
But you know its great you bought it, you supported the Game by doing it. So thanks! May I ask you to give it a second a chance? You already bought it so you can always play it again, maybe after some Time has gone by. Multiplayer stuff is getting improved, Community Goals are coming, and wings of course, and who knows what?
Unfortunatly it can't be denied that you bught a game at Release that wasn't really finished and is lacking. But you bought it, and when you tried it again after some time have passed and give it a second chance maybe you will like what you see.
Not because it will be like Eve, but because you may wil like Elite for being Elite. Maybe not of course, but who knows?
And seriously, when every game set in Space with Ships players fly around do the same things it would be really sad for the Genre as a whole. Eve was pretty much the only new thing for quite a while (not littlerly, but almost), but now comes ED (and it is diffrent then Eve), and next comes No Mans Sky (its even more diffrent!) and then SC (it looks like its a mix between eve and ED).
That at least are the 3 Major well know ones, and even have three of them with so much attention from the general public is great! And its great that they are not all the same - because there are many diffrent Gamers with diffrent tastes. We not all like the same stuff in Games (as one can see in this Forum) so isn't it great that there are so diffrent Games set in Space, so we all can have something to like?
There really is nothing wrong when you want something more like Eve, thats why Eve is there. But I get, its out for a while now, and you may want more ED like Ships controls and it looks like there will be SC for that. Does it not look very good for you if thats the sort of Game you want?
But its not the Game I want, what I want is a Game like Elite, and thats why I'm really happy ED does Exist right here and now. Sure, its not perfect, far from it, there is lots to complain about and lots to do for the Devs, but its a Game made for somebody like me and I will always be against turning it into game not for me (its only natural).
So yeah, I really don't get it. I know the "Its not a game for you so play something else" things gets old and it really is silly, but why buying a Game that so obvious isn't doing what you want and then complain its not doing what you want? Eve is not doing what I want so I never bought Eve, I found that to be so simple.
But you know its great you bought it, you supported the Game by doing it. So thanks! May I ask you to give it a second a chance? You already bought it so you can always play it again, maybe after some Time has gone by. Multiplayer stuff is getting improved, Community Goals are coming, and wings of course, and who knows what?
Unfortunatly it can't be denied that you bught a game at Release that wasn't really finished and is lacking. But you bought it, and when you tried it again after some time have passed and give it a second chance maybe you will like what you see.
Not because it will be like Eve, but because you may wil like Elite for being Elite. Maybe not of course, but who knows?
That would be pretty cool, if you could sign up for a short tour of duty with your mates as a gunner on their ship (an evening or maybe an hour or two), maybe if you have enough rank (and military standing) the Feds, independents, (or empire scum
) they could ask you to crew one of their larger ships that you can't buy for a particular missions if you have enough crew and a few escorts too, a lot of possibility's.It depends entirely up to players ED ie. customers - "In a democracy, people get the government they deserve." :Alexis de Toqueville -
As I said originally when guilds are core gameplay tenets I have never seen the end result being anything other than them being de facto mandatory. From what I am told it's basically impossibly to progress in Eve without being in a corporation for instance. Certainly in WoW being a member of a guild is basically required to access the end game content.
I prefer to use no 3rd party tools at all, precisely because they are not part of the game. I've tried TS for Elite out once or twice, and met some very nice and friendly people that I had a lot of fun playing with.
Elite does include socialisation tools, and they do in fact work - but they are ignored by many as they do not currently work to the degree demanded by some (as it's based on friends list and proximity) - so off they go using 3rd party tools, and then ask why Elite doesn't have the same thing - completely ignoring the fact that Elite works on P2P island communications.
What he actually said was: "at least to start with, we don't have guilds or clans" followed by "it something we've looked at and are looking at".
That's the problem though - as soon as anyone of a certain mindset says "modern features" they tend to mean "like [x] game". I've specifically said that I think the game needs more social features and more content - but I don't think the core game style to be changed until it is akin to Elite. Belittling anyone who believes otherwise as one of the "84s" is not a good argument. A little less of the ad hominem would be appreciated - I've posted exactly why I wouldn't like it and I think that aligns with what FD were saying from the beginning.
EDIT: Just for clarity what's particulaly irritating is that people think that in order to be "modern" then a game has to do "x". I think that's facile and it's irritating that there seems to be a group of people who can't accept that different games should exist and if other people like them then thats their opinion and is just as valid.
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problem is not "guilds or clans" but the following demand of designing special content for them.
i think THAT is something they don't want to touch with a very long pole... and right so.
Ideas Man
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Great ideas from the OP here, the game needs a lot adding to it as at the moment it is wafer thin and / or broken.
Just be patient OP, all your wishes will happen in time whether some like it or not.
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Just be patient OP, all your wishes will happen in time whether some like it or not.
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That'll change in time