Why don't you go to CCC forums and complain they copy Frontier's flight model?
Give us freedom, the same as EvE. Consigne the universe to the players, FD
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Ideas Man
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And for every '' aspect <snip> it also lacks about 50 well established, fun and engaging aspects
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Selective quoting....
"Question: Someone asks: Will there be a corporation, guild or clan system in Elite: Dangerous?
DBOBE: Right, there is the sort of friends alliance but at least to start we've not got guilds and clans. I think what we don't want is this, the whole game to become ossified very quickly where the, you know, you have to join one or the other to have any fun gameplay. I do like this it's essentially it's the game of the freedom of the individual the ability to just go out and do your own thing. You know the, guilds can very easily become almost like mafiosi saying don't travel here or we'll kill you. So I think it is some thing that we will look at and are looking at but friends groups which are very much more constrained I think are great, but when it becomes much beyond that it becomes a bit - just doesn't feel right."
From the quote, not only are large social groups a cause for concern, it also touches on territorial control (not in a positive way). Sounds a lot like wings are the fundamental social construct that are in DBOBE's vision for the game.
Ideas Man
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Rep for that, classic scene
Vectorman
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Where is this hard core stuff - I dont have any hard core sim in my Elite
First time I've heard it.... But I can roll with it.
Sounds pretty fitting at present.
I also think MajorStaleGrind is another way to describe it currently
I think you didn't even read what I said. Good job.
Robert Maynard
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Are all of the 300,000 sales of Elite: Dangerous to EVE players?
Ideas Man
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It really stems from driving games with stuff like Forza or Gran Turismo, they are aiming for the sim market but are not 100% accurate with physics etc so provide fun gameplay over realism, the term is used all over now and works well here
Yeah I think if he said "screw that are you having a laugh, never gonna happen, over my dead body" the sales & marketing director might have been a little upset.
Ideas Man
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Yes I did, you called other MMOs '' and said that ED doesn't have some of those '' features, could you please expand on any other points I missed because re reading your post again I think I got them both.
So, you after all did *not* read what I wrote. I meant aspects, not whole shebang. Go read better and stop twisting my words.
A tabletop RPG allows you to do just that.
But, if you wish to have it online, you might need these items:
First, insert $250,000,000 USD for development of that game, please.
Next, find a way of coordinating all your friend's schedules, so that they can crew the ship every session.
After that, you will need to keep them happy as second, third, and fourth banana's. After a few sessions, they will drop out of the gunnery exercises to fly their own ships, otherwise. Nobody quits guilds/clans/corps because they are tired of the politics and drama, right?
Wow. Extremely disappointed in Braben. When I visited Phekda or Tiliala in FFE, I got my butt shot off by the NPC mafia in those system. Why would it be such a problem in a 400 billion galaxy if some stars would be held and guarded by a player mafia in the same vein? 400 billion stars, man! In FFE, you were not able to visit every system and "do your own thing", because the pirates had real teeth. In ED, anarchy and core sectors have all the same carebear difficulty level, the NPCs pose no threats whatsoever and you can seamlessly switch to solo mode in case you might encounter another human...
THAT's the sequel to Elite, Frontier and First Encounters? What happened to DB?!
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Ideas Man
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And I replied to your post in exactly those terms. I said that for every '' aspect it also lacks about 50 other great aspects, please do reply if you need more help in reading posts, I am more than happy to try and accommodate you.
I even used your word 'aspect' lol
I think there is one big misconception here. No one in their right mind wants ED to become EVE. What poeple really want is some of the good things that EVE does adapted for ED. Because lets face it ED will never be EVE even if the devs tomorow deside to do it. EVE is maybe the most unique MMO out there, where players really have the tools to change the game world, no other game can do this currently. People want part of that to be in ED. I see this community goals update as the first step of one bigger mechanic to be used by players in the future updates building their own stations and expanding the populated space. If this doesnt sound cool i really dont know what is. Building bigger ships, piloted by several people. Some of them maybe are made to take down stations or whatever. War with real consequences, trading that is requared for building real stations and ships, minning reasourses enabling all of this. Btw people would mine like crazy even with the current mechanics if they need the resourses for more meaningfull goals than just selling them for money in random station to random npc.
The idea in short is making real difference in the universe by some set of mechanics. A universe where if you want you can have bigger set of goals than bying Python, ohh after this patch will be something else, ok, lets say Anaconda, it cost more.
The idea in short is making real difference in the universe by some set of mechanics. A universe where if you want you can have bigger set of goals than bying Python, ohh after this patch will be something else, ok, lets say Anaconda, it cost more.
Dodge as you may. That's not all what you said, and you missed my point completely - twisting the words to your own liking.
List please!
On a serious note, ED as I understand it was always envisioned around the idea of small group co-op. I dunno about anyone else, but I'd at least like to see wings in action and the other improvements in social gubbins before binning that concept and demanding that we spiral off in a very different direction.
I'll be very interested from a design point of view how they will accomplish that in a meaningful way and without upsetting the "normal" player base. It will have similar drawbacks to the "killed with a spoon" issue that Torfi was concerned about with ambulation and I can't imagine an alliance being happy about ceding territory base don the outcome of a battle between no skill noobs fighting it out with joysticks when they have put so much work and time into gaining what they have currently.
Ideas Man
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What are you talking about?A tabletop RPG allows you to do just that.
But, if you wish to have it online, you might need these items:
First, insert $250,000,000 USD for development of that game, please.
Next, find a way of coordinating all your friend's schedules, so that they can crew the ship every session.
After that, you will need to keep them happy as second, third, and fourth banana's. After a few sessions, they will drop out of the gunnery exercises to fly their own ships, otherwise. Nobody quits guilds/clans/corps because they are tired of the politics and drama, right?
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