The three new AX Multi-cannons of the gimbal destroy the bare heart VERY quickly. And there's practically no need to aim.
Glaives (Hunter class ships) are overpowered and...
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I think it is this - pretty common in all games to have a barrier to progress, then have a way to remove it - we're just waiting to see how that will happen. Maybe there will be a lightning mitigation (which would have been useful even before they added the Glaive), not sure what else they can add to make it more fun / less tedious
For now I will continue to combat log on Glaive because life is too short, I have Maelstrom to farm
Update & Completion of Col 285 Sector YT-F b12-3 - Invasion (0700 to 0700 UTC)
Combined Supplies:
Combined Evacs: 7,535
Combined AX Kills: 419
Overall Totals:
Total Supplies: (+)
Total Evacs: 7,535 (+7,535)
Total AX Kills: 419 (+419)
System Progress: (50/50) (+37)
yea, you do that versus Basilisks or anything above and tell me how it works for you
although, there are always new things to learn, i did try the (not so) new gimbaled ax multicannons and keep in mind it's not like i'm exactly new to thargoid combat and i do have my fair share of kills
These are the stats from 2 of the 3 accounts i play
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Yeh, my issue with adding more “preventative” modules is space on our ships forcing everyone into large ships …I think it is this - pretty common in all games to have a barrier to progress, then have a way to remove it - we're just waiting to see how that will happen. Maybe there will be a lightning mitigation (which would have been useful even before they added the Glaive), not sure what else they can add to make it more fun / less tedious
For now I will continue to combat log on Glaive because life is too short, I have Maelstrom to farm
- Perhaps now is time for the “passive” functions of the Xeno Scanner to be rolled into standard sensors, so you can at least see variant, hull %, number of hearts (and if one is exerted) without taking up a utility slot. You’d still need one to scan and target individual hearts, though.
- Combined SDFN and Pulse Wave Neutralizer
- Higher capacity / alternative technology Heat Sink
- And AX MCs need to be taken off the experimental list (it’s just the same weapon with different ammo for crying out loud!) reducing the need for stabilisers in all but multi-guardian weapon builds.
That would alleviate the squeeze on our internals and utilities making 4-utility ships far less of a pain and creating space for whatever MacGuffin they decide to add next.
You wrote about aiming for the heart and I just noticed. Yes, these guns are worse for the hull of an interceptor...
In a game where the basis of everything is grind, more money, more engineers for more slots is normal.
No, I am not. I was just exemplifying what a proper reaction should be, on the part of FDev.
Still working !!
All Thargoid ship types can always see human ships, cold or not. They just can't get a target lock on them if they are cold enough or Silent Running.
And I haven't noticed Glaives being any different.
Against Glaives, Cold Orbiting is not adequate because of their speed, not because they are capable of target locking cold ships. I know it since I noticed a difference in their damage when using Silent Running + Heatsinks in regard to not using it.
As neither should you tell me, or any other CMDR, what to do, like you have been doing.
Not exactly. Cold-Orbiting is used to avoid damage in these situations:
- While reducing shields (soloing or in group);
- When attacking the Interceptor's hull to exert hearts > with the help of heatsinks (soloing or in group);
- When attacking the Interceptor's hearts > with the help of heatsinks (soloing or in group).
Only because of their speed. They use boom and zoom tactics. Much like you see in ED PVP.
I was primarily referring to the idea of just facetanking the damage, not the rest, unless I completely misunderstood that the damage avoidance(which is the entire crux of cold orbiting) was not part of the intended gameplay loop against Interceptors.
I sure as hell doubt it would fare particularly well against a Hydra. Basilisk… 50/50. You can probably still outshoot it before it does too much damage with its cannon in a heart run. Medusa? I can’t say.
Nah! Just suffer and die, because inventing new tactics within the laws created by FDev is not allowed (it's clearly cheating).
That is less efficient, but it works too.
It actually works. Some CMDRs I know of, use approximately this type of approach.
But it is only really viable, as well as more forgiving and more doable, in planetary AX CZs, because you can repair quickly between each heart, while the shield is decaying. Even when soloing Hydras - although it is a very risky tactic.
Before U15, in planetary defense, my Condagib could tank up to 4 hearts from a Hydra before having to dock and repair/rearm
The usual routine, when everything was working nicely, was to nail a Hydra in 3 sessions: 2 hearts, repair, 3 hearts, repair, 3 hearts (or 2, 2, 4). But when things were going south it was like 2, 2, 2, 2 or getting sent to rebuy screen.
And in space, while flying a cold Krait mk2, that was how i was soloing Basilisks (and was getting close to do Medusas as well - best i got 4 hearts out of the Dusa before having to bail out due to crappy gauss aim/stagger on my side - thus taking more fire than i should - without resorting to cold orbit and most often than not firing from a FA ON flying stance)
I dunno, it seems like a rather risky tactic to try fighting the interceptors like that. Certainly in a medium, anyway, seeing as the bigger ships don’t really have as much of an option to avoid fire.
IMO FA on is not a big issue though. If anything, I personally found it easier to orbit the interceptor in a Krait with FA on and not have to deal with my horrid FA off aim for fixed weapons(that and the verts actually worked better with FA on than off).
Well, I did ask for people to to be civil and hoped they would attentively read and understand my post."You just need to "git gud" because it´s REALLY very very laughably easy... seriously!!"
You cannot seriously expect much different responses when discussing game difficulty on an online forum.
I guess that hoping that all the people would actually contribute, instead of blabbering out silly slogans was a bridge too far...
I have quite a bit of experience in most areas and activities of ED. When I was interdicted by a Glaive for the fist time, I had the impression that they would be very difficult for less experienced CMDRs in Human AX Combat ships and an absolute nightmare for those CMDRs running fast Evac/Supply ships. Turns out I was right.
What nonsense is this ? Having fun in a game ? You are surely jesting, dear Sir.
/end of sarcasm
There would be no need for a solution, if only FDev did not go to extremes whenever they introduce something new in to the game.
I guess that when FDev sees the large decline in numbers of players playing their 2nd Thargoid War, they will react.
That is really not what is at the CenterPoint of my original post.
What about Human weapons against an Hydra's hull ? What is your Human AX tactic ?
They don't need to add anything (to the Glaive), just subtract. Like the FSD Reboot/Containment missiles and the Guardian Degeneration Field.I think it is this - pretty common in all games to have a barrier to progress, then have a way to remove it - we're just waiting to see how that will happen. Maybe there will be a lightning mitigation (which would have been useful even before they added the Glaive), not sure what else they can add to make it more fun / less tedious
LOLFor now I will continue to combat log on Glaive because life is too short, I have Maelstrom to farm
And is that the behavior that FDev was hoping for? Surely not.
Maybe this says a lot about what the CMDRs think of the way this new mechanic is currently implemented.
But I do understand that some CMDRs need to act this way in the current circumstances.
The fact that you have shown that those great CMDRs keep contributing to the war effort, is unrelated. Even in the most dire of circumstances they would keep doing it.
What is important and what I was really asking is: "How hard it was and how hard it is now."
And you still haven't posted anything about what they said about Glaives.