Glorious HIPs - 3306

All the HIP catalogue stars have been "first discovered", as documented here: HIP spreadsheet.

The HIP catalogue includes many other catalogued stars, eg the HD stars. But the HD catalogue has not been analysed afaik.
So there may be HD stars that have not been visited.
Awesome, thanks for the info. So if my goal is to get my name on a real life star the HD catalogue is my best bet?
 
Are there any HIPs or catalogs left to first discover?

There are plenty of catalogue stars left to discover, the HIP's were an easy target, like the KOI's and Kepler's, some of the catalogue's that were included in the galaxy have tens of thousands of stars. There were a few other small catalogue sets I traveled around to visit and get entered into EDSM a while back. The catalogue systems spreadsheet on ED Astro has over 200,000 rows.
 
Awesome, thanks for the info. So if my goal is to get my name on a real life star the HD catalogue is my best bet?
Not the HD stars.

Looking at HD star names in the HIP spreadsheet above, there are lots of gaps in the HD numbers.
If you put a shortened HD name into the galmap so that it lists out a number of stars to visit, the gaps in that list match exactly the gaps in the HIP spreadsheet.
I didn't look at every single gap, but the pattern was good for about a dozen tries.

So it looks like FD did not use the HD catalaogue at all, but only took the alternative star names (ie HD names) from the HIP catalogue.
Although why FD made the HD name the main name for many stars is another question which I can't answer.
 
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There are plenty of catalogue stars left to discover, the HIP's were an easy target, like the KOI's and Kepler's, some of the catalogue's that were included in the galaxy have tens of thousands of stars. There were a few other small catalogue sets I traveled around to visit and get entered into EDSM a while back. The catalogue systems spreadsheet on ED Astro has over 200,000 rows.
All the data in the ED astro spreadheets has been collected from EDSM/EDDN which means they have already been discovered, and have accurate coordinates.

You could try what I did for the HIP/HD stars and put in shortened names in the galmap and see if any stars listed there are not in the spreadsheets.
I will have a go at the 2MASS stars later.
 
All the data in the ED astro spreadheets has been collected from EDSM/EDDN which means they have already been discovered, and have accurate coordinates.

You could try what I did for the HIP/HD stars and put in shortened names in the galmap and see if any stars listed there are not in the spreadsheets.
I will have a go at the 2MASS stars later.

Yeah that's basically what I did for the KOI set, look at the existing list and try to fill the gaps. Even so there are still systems in on the ED Astro that can be tagged, it's surprising the number that got reported but didn't have a first discovered tag because the first person there never made it back to sell the data. Also a lot of stars ended up not being discovered simply because of the way the early discovery system worked, unless you actually pointed for x seconds it never got tagged, we had quite a run around with the HIP's for that reason, there's a big list of systems with no stars recorded , there's over 17 million in that list, I used that a bit to make sure some catalogue entries made it into EDSM, A lot of NGC systems are listed there, also the IC systems, so if you just wanted your name on a catalogue star system that's a useful list to poke through.
 
Yes, the IC systems look promising.

There are lots of systems with names like "IC 2581 SECTOR ...."
which are in game but not in the ED Astro spreadsheet.
However, many of them are in the Spansh db.

So you would need to check with Spansh (eg the FC router) whether anyone has been there. But even that is not certain because not everyone records their travel data.
 
Yes, the IC systems look promising.

There are lots of systems with names like "IC 2581 SECTOR ...."
which are in game but not in the ED Astro spreadsheet.
However, many of them are in the Spansh db.

So you would need to check with Spansh (eg the FC router) whether anyone has been there. But even that is not certain because not everyone records their travel data.

There are just over 60 in the list of systems with no main stars, maybe one day I will around to tracking them down.
 
IC 2581 Sector OJ-G a11-0 and a11-1 are not in the spansh db and therefore good candidates for being available.

Although with a name like that, is it really a catalogue star ?
I haven't actually looked for an "IC" catalogue.

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The "IC" is an addition to the NGC catalogue which is included in the latest versions of the NGC catalgues on Vizier ( https://vizier.cds.unistra.fr/viz-bin/VizieR-2 )
So I dont know how FD allocated names to these objects, but they may well be real.
 
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IC 2581 Sector OJ-G a11-0 and a11-1 are not in the spansh db and therefore good candidates for being available.

Although with a name like that, is it really a catalogue star ?
I haven't actually looked for an "IC" catalogue.

Yes it is indeed, the Index Catalogue...although we have to remember many of these catalogues include star clusters and nebula, so it's quite possible these aren't individual stars in the catalogue but part of a nebula or cluster composed of many stars so they may actually be generated as a star cluster. It's very likely that's what the "sector" part of the name means, not an individual catalogue star but a star cluster or nebula of many stars.
 
I downloaded the ICpos.dat file from vizier and there are 6490 objects listed. Many with duplicate numbers , which are probably star clusters.

I also scanned an early '23 copy of the spansh db looking for IC nnn SECTOR xxx... like names and found 370955 of them.

So I don't know what FD did with them, but there are far more IC stars in FD than there are in the actual IC catalogue.
Most of them have what look like proc gen names with a sector number, here are the first systems in each sector..

IC 348 Sector EL-Y c0,-382.84375,-382.0625,-1143.21875,1
IC 410 Sector AV-Y d0,-1205.84375,-248.375,-11016.84375,1
IC 1287 Sector AA-P a6-0,-343.6875,-44.3125,897.15625,1
IC 1396 Sector AA-A b17-0,-2380.71875,277.90625,-580.65625,0
IC 1590 Sector AA-P d6-0,-7573.375,-1053.5,-5222.84375,1
IC 1805 Sector AA-A a30-0,-4252.28125,-33.09375,-4363.78125,1
IC 1848 Sector AA-A b29-2,-4605.84375,44.34375,-4518.03125,1
IC 2391 Sector AA-A d27,493.34375,-117.15625,-34.09375,1
IC 2395 Sector AA-Y b1-0,2346.8125,-122.875,-213.3125,0
IC 2621 Sector AA-Z c0,14415.40625,-1261.875,5620.59375,1
IC 4191 Sector AV-Y c0,11780.09375,-1184.09375,8059.46875,1
IC 4604 Sector AA-Q b5-0,116.53125,139.1875,593.84375,1
IC 4634 Sector BQ-Y d2,-72.6875,1578.28125,7312.03125,1
IC 4651 Sector AA-A e2,894.9375,-388.46875,2705.9375,1
IC 4663 Sector AA-Z c1,1578.90625,-902.6875,6178.34375,1
IC 4665 Sector AA-F b12-0,-402.9375,300.1875,959.8125,0
IC 4756 Sector AA-G b11-0,-792.03125,88.75,1329.15625,]
IC 4996 Sector AA-A e9,-5540.78125,119.8125,1427.84375,0
IC 4997 Sector AA-Z c0,-6622.21875,-1500.96875,4059.125,1
IC 5117 Sector AA-Z c8,-2931.46875,-217.46875,-26.96875,1
IC 5146 Sector AA-A f2,-2748.1875,-251.09375,-213.09375,1
IC 5217 Sector AA-A e0,-9254.5,-923.1875,-1722.5,1

And then there are these stars, which do not have sector names and do not have proc gen names....
IC 1805 HG 167,-4366.78125,115.65625,-4320.53125,1
IC 2391 CTIO 62,609.5625,-73.5,-0.34375,1
IC 2391 D 112,591.03125,-68.3125,2.5,1
IC 2391 D 41,552.0625,-73.625,6.8125,1
IC 2391 D 97,578.84375,-69.21875,3.96875,1
IC 2391 PMM 1373,555.875,-66.625,12.09375,1
IC 2391 PMM 2012,554.0,-65.625,10.625,1
IC 2391 PMM 3359,578.21875,-74.46875,1.21875,1
IC 2391 PMM 5376,592.40625,-73.90625,-1.625,1
IC 2391 PMM 756,608.15625,-75.5,13.59375,1
IC 2391 PP 9,598.03125,-68.4375,7.59375,1
IC 2391 RB 955,642.53125,-75.65625,4.375,1
IC 2391 SMY 18,560.0,-66.9375,2.5625,1
IC 2391 SMY 23,594.25,-74.71875,8.96875,1
IC 4651 241,1016.53125,-414.46875,2820.90625,1
IC 4651 AMC 3220,1002.1875,-413.09375,2766.15625,1
IC 4651 BT 1,1045.0,-411.9375,2862.46875,0
IC 4651 EGG 18,991.90625,-405.59375,2731.28125,1
IC 4651 EGG 48,1019.3125,-418.84375,2818.1875,1
IC 4651 EGG 56,1037.6875,-423.84375,2864.46875,1
IC 4651 EGG 94,985.15625,-403.5625,2727.5625,1
IC 4651 MEI 10538,985.6875,-402.84375,2728.5625,1
IC 4651 MEI 13145,981.375,-405.21875,2700.78125,0
IC 4651 MEI 13477,986.71875,-407.28125,2720.03125,1
IC 4651 MEI 6153,1029.71875,-416.09375,2852.375,]
IC 4651 MMU 11218,991.65625,-408.09375,2723.46875,0
IC 4651 MMU 12935,1030.625,-424.6875,2843.28125,1
IC 4651 MMU 14527,979.90625,-404.53125,2713.21875,1
IC 4651 MMU 17646,1024.78125,-428.53125,2849.125,1
IC 4651 MMU 9025,1029.125,-420.0625,2838.0625,1
IC 4665 MRD 108,-567.34375,339.25,956.875,1
IC 4665 MRD 115,-581.25,346.96875,979.90625,0
IC 4665 MRD 117,-533.28125,318.28125,899.40625,0
IC 4665 MRD 118,-624.15625,372.4375,1059.6875,0
IC 4665 MRD 123,-542.75,323.59375,912.5625,1
IC 4665 MRD 134,-531.90625,316.09375,894.9375,0
IC 4665 MRD 23,-568.375,349.09375,950.25,1
IC 4665 MRD 24,-604.59375,371.1875,1019.40625,0
IC 4665 MRD 3,-573.625,355.03125,964.46875,1
IC 4665 MRD 32,-621.1875,380.5,1042.71875,0
IC 4665 MRD 34,-517.5,316.625,876.5,0
IC 4665 MRD 35,-573.28125,350.65625,968.71875,0
IC 4665 MRD 36,-512.625,313.53125,867.125,0
IC 4665 MRD 4,-566.1875,350.40625,955.96875,1
IC 4665 MRD 57,-627.1875,379.96875,1056.4375,0
IC 4665 MRD 64,-524.8125,316.96875,893.96875,0
IC 4665 MRD 8,-598.125,369.28125,1014.1875,1
IC 4665 P 107,-540.65625,325.5,927.6875,0
IC 4665 P 139,-593.53125,351.8125,1006.125,0
IC 4665 P 151,-582.84375,343.78125,981.3125,0
IC 4665 P 165,-587.5,343.65625,981.0,0
IC 4665 P 173,-539.1875,335.75,916.375,0
IC 4665 P 187,-564.46875,349.0625,970.8125,0
IC 4665 P 198,-527.28125,325.4375,895.53125,1
IC 4665 P 2,-597.9375,370.875,1018.59375,0
IC 4665 P 20,-620.5625,378.59375,1055.96875,0
IC 4665 P 200,-583.46875,359.90625,999.46875,0
IC 4665 P 205,-547.4375,337.34375,937.6875,0
IC 4665 P 209,-594.375,365.96875,1017.59375,0
IC 4665 P 217,-591.71875,363.90625,996.8125,0
IC 4665 P 218,-621.0,381.84375,1061.8125,1
IC 4665 P 224,-519.25,319.0625,891.625,1
IC 4665 P 231,-482.96875,296.25,824.0,1
IC 4665 P 235,-534.71875,327.84375,912.15625,0
IC 4665 P 240,-611.625,374.375,1028.71875,0
IC 4665 P 244,-570.21875,348.5625,968.84375,0
IC 4665 P 246,-503.96875,307.96875,856.0,1
IC 4665 P 248,-555.4375,339.28125,949.3125,0
IC 4665 P 259,-581.25,354.4375,996.6875,0
IC 4665 P 261,-508.25,309.6875,865.03125,1
IC 4665 P 264,-553.5625,337.0625,941.5,0
IC 4665 P 265,-613.15625,373.28125,1037.9375,0
IC 4665 P 274,-514.90625,312.34375,869.84375,0
IC 4665 P 30,-542.875,328.5625,910.71875,1
IC 4665 P 305,-615.15625,371.0625,1052.09375,0
IC 4665 P 320,-561.0,337.5,955.15625,0
IC 4665 P 342,-575.875,345.09375,980.09375,0
IC 4665 P 351,-551.15625,329.90625,922.375,1
IC 4665 P 378,-527.34375,314.09375,894.6875,0
IC 4665 P 392,-495.65625,294.375,839.03125,0
IC 4665 P 404,-576.0,340.59375,973.125,0
IC 4665 P 406,-494.09375,291.9375,834.75,0
IC 4665 P 411,-571.3125,337.53125,961.1875,0
IC 4665 P 413,-498.34375,294.09375,841.1875,1
IC 4665 P 77,-548.46875,335.71875,941.3125,0
IC 4665 P 94,-628.0625,381.625,1067.46875,0
IC 4756 ALC 71,-1000.15625,163.90625,1354.875,1
IC 4756 ALC 85,-980.8125,160.28125,1342.09375,1
IC 4756 ALC 89,-985.59375,153.1875,1346.90625,1
IC 4756 ALC 90,-890.4375,143.15625,1212.3125,1
IC 4756 ALC 93,-946.6875,151.1875,1294.6875,1
IC 4756 HER 243,-913.71875,141.5625,1245.25,1
IC 4756 HER 247,-948.59375,148.46875,1284.875,1
IC 4996 4,-5546.71875,137.375,1454.90625,0
IC 4996 DAM 9,-5611.15625,129.875,1462.28125,1
IC 4996 PUR 45,-5360.40625,124.625,1405.53125,0
IC 4996 PUR D,-5517.0,131.5625,1438.71875,1
IC 4996 VBP 26,-5564.9375,130.53125,1457.125,1
IC 4996 VBP 83,-5376.46875,125.6875,1403.34375,1
IC 5146 11,-2999.9375,-287.4375,-224.4375,1
IC 5146 12,-2624.625,-251.6875,-196.90625,1
IC 5146 13,-2641.5625,-251.90625,-199.4375,1
IC 5146 14,-2523.40625,-241.09375,-190.15625,1
IC 5146 15,-2666.25,-256.0,-200.71875,1
IC 5146 19,-2778.34375,-265.375,-211.84375,1
IC 5146 2,-2856.28125,-271.84375,-212.21875,1
IC 5146 20,-2880.5625,-276.0625,-218.84375,1
IC 5146 21,-2861.71875,-273.4375,-218.21875,1
IC 5146 22,-2573.75,-248.25,-194.875,1
IC 5146 23,-2693.875,-259.09375,-204.65625,1
IC 5146 24,-3042.25,-290.53125,-233.78125,1
IC 5146 28,-2541.90625,-243.9375,-194.78125,1
IC 5146 31,-2973.5,-287.90625,-226.84375,1
IC 5146 32,-2985.46875,-287.34375,-229.4375,1
IC 5146 35,-2496.09375,-242.0625,-190.53125,1
IC 5146 37,-2933.8125,-281.90625,-226.34375,1
IC 5146 40,-2638.03125,-253.96875,-203.375,1
IC 5146 41,-2812.625,-272.90625,-215.21875,1
IC 5146 44,-2786.8125,-270.15625,-213.53125,1
IC 5146 50,-2489.0625,-240.3125,-192.21875,1
IC 5146 53,-2565.40625,-249.625,-196.75,1
IC 5146 55,-2497.0,-239.96875,-194.4375,1
IC 5146 56,-2811.53125,-271.8125,-217.71875,1
IC 5146 58,-2818.46875,-271.5625,-219.375,1
IC 5146 60,-2689.40625,-260.40625,-208.375,1
IC 5146 62,-3024.78125,-294.03125,-233.78125,1
IC 5146 63,-2997.0,-290.8125,-232.0625,1
IC 5146 64,-2805.46875,-272.1875,-217.46875,1
IC 5146 69,-2518.65625,-243.46875,-196.4375,1
IC 5146 7,-2548.46875,-242.21875,-190.5,1
IC 5146 70,-2675.375,-261.0625,-206.6875,1
IC 5146 8,-3061.5625,-293.125,-228.375,1
IC 5146 9,-2577.125,-245.625,-193.40625,1

Of the IC non-proc gen names above, every single one of them is in the Spansh db, so have been visited.
 
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Of the IC non-proc gen names above, every single one of them is in the Spansh db, so have been visited.

Of course they are all in the spansh db, that's where I got the list.
What I meant to say was that I have checked them with abbreviated names in galmap and no names other than these came up.
So there are no systems with these kinds of names hidden in the game.
 
Of course they are all in the spansh db, that's where I got the list.
What I meant to say was that I have checked them with abbreviated names in galmap and no names other than these came up.
So there are no systems with these kinds of names hidden in the game.

Yeah it's very likely these are individual stars in the catalogue, the rest nebula and star clusters as per the description of the catalogue;

Dreyer published two supplements to the NGC in 1895 and 1908, known as the Index Catalogues (abbreviated IC), describing a further 5,386 astronomical objects. Thousands of these objects are best known by their NGC or IC numbers, which remain in widespread use.

This very useful website lets you search the IC catalogue by different objects, of course not all the individual stars listed in the IC catalogue are actually in the game. Some will also be listed by their NGC number or actual star name. Of course we have no idea how FDEV sorted the catalogues and eliminated duplicates because there would have been many.

 
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