Just thought that I would drop in to say hello. I read about this game a few months ago and I'm seriously considering a purchase of the Commander Deluxe Edition. I've read through all of the posts in the Day 0 sticky. The learning curve definitely looks steep but I'm willing to take my time.
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Hello.
Yeah, if you're at least partially into flight sims and space sims in particular, you should definitely try Elite.
After all, it's usually just a couple quid.
Yeah, if you're at least partially into flight sims and space sims in particular, you should definitely try Elite.
After all, it's usually just a couple quid.
Welcome!
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First, let me welcome you to the Elite: Dangerous Galaxy. My rule 2 is; Have Fun (it is just a game, but WHAT a GAME!). Rule 2a is; In VR have LOTS more fun!!!
The learning curve is so steep (it has an overhang!) that the mountain goats go around in teams, roped together (and even then they may fall off, but that means the Vultures get to eat!). However, when you master something, and do it well, the buzz is worth the effort. To my mind the most important skill to master is landing your ship. Until you can do this nothing else matters (how can you complete a mission, for example, if you killed yourself on landing?). It would be a good idea to go through some of the Training missions to start learning the necessary skills to survive.
Now, Golden Rule 1, which is; Never Fly if you cannot cover the REBUY. REBUY is the insurance excess on your ship, and is 5% of the value of your ship (including all upgrades, but not the cargo). Any changes you make to a ship will affect the REBUY. You can see what your REBUY is on the Status screen (normally accessed by pressing key 4 when in cockpit view, although I do not know how to access the Status screen on a console), bottom left, below Balance. If you get killed, and you can cover the REBUY, you will get a replacement ship identical to the one you lost (although the cargo bay will be empty). However, if you cannot cover the REBUY you may well end up back in a basic Sidewinder. Please do not let this happen to you, as the forum is littered with tales of woe when other Players have ignored Rule 1, and then got killed. This links to a classic one I have seen;
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/324391-1-5-years-to-get-Anaconda-1-day-to-lose-it
You will, at various stages, upgrade your ship (buying is covered in the next paragraph). Be aware that all internal equipment has numbers and letters associated with them. The number is the Class, while the letter is the Rating. Until you have a good understanding of the Class make sure (when upgrading) to fit the same Class as the unit coming out. There are stories of Players who fitted a 1A FSD to their Sidewinder, thinking it would help increase the jump range, only to find that (as the FSD that came out was a Class 2) they had REDUCED the jump range. The letter is for Rating, with E being the weakest and A being the strongest. However, there are two that confuse this somewhat. All D Rated equipment are very light (and are preferred by Explorers for this reason), while B Rated has heavy armour (which is great for combat specialists). I do not (at this time) intend to explain weaponry, as this is definitely a matter of personal preference.
When you decide to buy a new ship, try to have 200% of the purchase price first. That way you have enough for the ship, some basic outfitting, a couple of loads of cargo, and a couple of REBUYs (just in case). If you are trading in a ship, take it back to factory spec first. When you sell any ship you will always take a 10% hit on the value of the ship at the time of selling. However, if you take it back to factory spec first you get back the full amount that you paid for the upgrades (at this time, at least). Then, when you sell the ship, your losses will be reduced. For example, I have an A Rated Cobra MkIII worth 10Mcr. If I were to sell her now I would take a loss of 1Mcr. However, if I take her back to factory spec and then sell her my loss will be about 35Kcr.
One final piece of advise I have is that, when something within the Game gets boring, switch to something else for a while. There are so many different things you can do it should not be difficult to stay interested. I, for example, will alternate between Trading, RES Combat, Exploring and helping new Players in Starter Space (and there are a whole lot MORE in the way of things to do!).
Have fun, fly safely, and see you out amongst the stars. Feel free to ask any questions, we all had to learn somewhere, and those that care will answer all they can.
The learning curve is so steep (it has an overhang!) that the mountain goats go around in teams, roped together (and even then they may fall off, but that means the Vultures get to eat!). However, when you master something, and do it well, the buzz is worth the effort. To my mind the most important skill to master is landing your ship. Until you can do this nothing else matters (how can you complete a mission, for example, if you killed yourself on landing?). It would be a good idea to go through some of the Training missions to start learning the necessary skills to survive.
Now, Golden Rule 1, which is; Never Fly if you cannot cover the REBUY. REBUY is the insurance excess on your ship, and is 5% of the value of your ship (including all upgrades, but not the cargo). Any changes you make to a ship will affect the REBUY. You can see what your REBUY is on the Status screen (normally accessed by pressing key 4 when in cockpit view, although I do not know how to access the Status screen on a console), bottom left, below Balance. If you get killed, and you can cover the REBUY, you will get a replacement ship identical to the one you lost (although the cargo bay will be empty). However, if you cannot cover the REBUY you may well end up back in a basic Sidewinder. Please do not let this happen to you, as the forum is littered with tales of woe when other Players have ignored Rule 1, and then got killed. This links to a classic one I have seen;
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/324391-1-5-years-to-get-Anaconda-1-day-to-lose-it
You will, at various stages, upgrade your ship (buying is covered in the next paragraph). Be aware that all internal equipment has numbers and letters associated with them. The number is the Class, while the letter is the Rating. Until you have a good understanding of the Class make sure (when upgrading) to fit the same Class as the unit coming out. There are stories of Players who fitted a 1A FSD to their Sidewinder, thinking it would help increase the jump range, only to find that (as the FSD that came out was a Class 2) they had REDUCED the jump range. The letter is for Rating, with E being the weakest and A being the strongest. However, there are two that confuse this somewhat. All D Rated equipment are very light (and are preferred by Explorers for this reason), while B Rated has heavy armour (which is great for combat specialists). I do not (at this time) intend to explain weaponry, as this is definitely a matter of personal preference.
When you decide to buy a new ship, try to have 200% of the purchase price first. That way you have enough for the ship, some basic outfitting, a couple of loads of cargo, and a couple of REBUYs (just in case). If you are trading in a ship, take it back to factory spec first. When you sell any ship you will always take a 10% hit on the value of the ship at the time of selling. However, if you take it back to factory spec first you get back the full amount that you paid for the upgrades (at this time, at least). Then, when you sell the ship, your losses will be reduced. For example, I have an A Rated Cobra MkIII worth 10Mcr. If I were to sell her now I would take a loss of 1Mcr. However, if I take her back to factory spec and then sell her my loss will be about 35Kcr.
One final piece of advise I have is that, when something within the Game gets boring, switch to something else for a while. There are so many different things you can do it should not be difficult to stay interested. I, for example, will alternate between Trading, RES Combat, Exploring and helping new Players in Starter Space (and there are a whole lot MORE in the way of things to do!).
Have fun, fly safely, and see you out amongst the stars. Feel free to ask any questions, we all had to learn somewhere, and those that care will answer all they can.
I too would have said watch for a sale offer but it looks like there won't be one until the next "Steam Sale" which is in June.
So - buy the Commander Deluxe Edition - even at full price it is well worth it, it will provide you with more time in game per £ / $ / € / ₽ / ¥ / whatever than any other game.
So - buy the Commander Deluxe Edition - even at full price it is well worth it, it will provide you with more time in game per £ / $ / € / ₽ / ¥ / whatever than any other game.
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Welcome to the Galaxy!
[noob] Welcome to the Galaxy! [noob]
[yesnod] Before you ever take off for the first time in fact, right now maybe read this story. It will help when you start the game for the first time. o7 newbie!
[noob] Welcome to the Galaxy! [noob]
[yesnod] Before you ever take off for the first time in fact, right now maybe read this story. It will help when you start the game for the first time. o7 newbie!
Welcome to the great family of the Elite ! Cmdr
And fly safe.
And fly safe.
Thank you all for your kind words. I'm looking forward to exploring the galaxy - after my new laptop arrives...
I did some reading on the forum when I posted and read some of the horror stories about people not having enough for the rebuy. I definitely plan on avoiding that mistake.
I would say that it is well worth the purchase and more, but it all depends on what kind of gameplay you enjoy.
I was fed up of playing games with little depth and was looking for something a bit different and noticed Elite Dangerous whilst also recalling my older brother playing one of the earlier Elite games in the 90s.
I can remember when I started playing I thought that it was too much of a learning cliff, but thankfully I stuck with it and several years later it is pretty much the only game I play. I would be wary of trying to do too much too soon and burning yourself out.
I hope you have fun when you get everything up and running.
I was fed up of playing games with little depth and was looking for something a bit different and noticed Elite Dangerous whilst also recalling my older brother playing one of the earlier Elite games in the 90s.
I can remember when I started playing I thought that it was too much of a learning cliff, but thankfully I stuck with it and several years later it is pretty much the only game I play. I would be wary of trying to do too much too soon and burning yourself out.
I hope you have fun when you get everything up and running.
Greetings commander! Definitely get the Horizons Season Pass, it adds tons of great content. Oh and you'll get hooked on those sweet paint jobs and ship kits in the online store before you know it, trust me.
I've been browsing around looking for coupons, sales, etc. and ran across a post on another site that said that there is a free demo tutorial. According to the URL, it is a zip file but the site appears to be dead. Has anyone heard of something like this where you can test drive the game? One of the main reasons that I ask is that I have a simple flight controller from playing a MS Flight Simulator about 10 years ago. I'm wondering whether the controller would work OK with the game. I don't plan on a lot of combat so I would be happy as long as it gets me from place to place reasonably well. I'm OK with buying the Commander's Edition but I want to avoid having to buy other controllers just to play it. My controller is a Saitek Cyborg Evo if that helps. Thanks.
I haven't hear of that DEMO, sounds fishy.
About the joystick, I use a very, very old MS Sidewinder Force Feedback 2. It lacks hotkeys and a proper throttle control but gets the job done.
The demo is the "Single Player Combat Training" on the game's launcher. Basically you have to install / run this: http://hosting.zaonce.net/elite/Client-Installer.exe
That should give you an EDlaunch.exe shortcut - open that you get a window / box - bottom option "Single Player Combat Training" - select install (or install demo) then you get a Play Demo button (the other selections give an Install / Log In button instead).
N.B. That is old information but it probably still works. (Hosting.zaonce.net is Frontier so it is not dodgy)
p.s. The stick will work fine in elite.
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Thanks for the info! Good to know that I can use what I have.
So I waited patiently and there is a sale this weekend - $21. I bought it and it's downloading now.
The real challenge IMO is to set up your key bindings to something what makes playing ED enjoyable - the standard bindings are ... sorry Frontier Development ... really crap. But once you found your settings, playing ED can be really enjoyable and flying your ship becomes 2nd nature. Seriously, the challenge is setting up your key bindings - no kidding.