This thread isn't about PVP pirating though is it? It's about PVP ganking.
Griefers are killing this game............
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This thread isn't about PVP pirating though is it? It's about PVP ganking.
HAHAHA
Did you read the OP?
He didn't have ANY cargo. Got it?
That's the argument. Killing for the sake of it. BULLY BOY TACTICS 4 v 1
You are still wrong pal. The moment you step into OPEN PLAY. There are more than NPC's now... a player commander should be no different than an npc in terms of piracy and blatant acts of violence. You sir are part of the problem. You just don't see how you are playing the wrong game here....
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This is not a PVE game... get used to being ganked or go to solo/mobius
Where is it advertised as something else? You see, here is where there is a problem. Why do people play in Open mode and complain when they are killed? Aren't there other places for them to play to avoid player interactions? There are no benefits to playing in any other mode, other than not seeing others. So why come to the forums and complain when you have a bad outcome to an interaction? You shouldn't have been playing in that mode if poor outcomes would take away from your 'fun'. It also makes no sense to demand that something be done to make Open 'safer', more expensive, more profitable, more...anything.
FDev gave everyone a place to play, with similar payouts, regardless of risk/reward analysis. Are there poor behaviors in Open? Certainly. But these behaviors are completely avoidable with one single choice on startup. Make the right choice, no one has problems. Personally, people complaining about griefing, lost most of my sympathy when they declared the NPC's griefing them in Solo.
What you say may very well be true. But the argument stemmed from the fact that you claimed the game is advertised as open PvP when I've just show that it is not. All you are doing now is trying to muddy the water and save face.
Sorry, I have made no such claim so please stop with the strawman argument.
I didn't say it was a PVE game - I play in open and I'm not complaining. You're off-topic.
Do try and keep up.
Could it possibly mean, play as a trader? play as a pirate? play as an explorer...? getting the idea?
come on now fellas , were all adults here...
Understand that there are good guys , and bad guys in a game.....its just that simple. some wanna play the good guys , some the bad guys , and they both need eachother.
Ganking, pirating, murdering players, is part of playing said bad guy. Currently the crime punishment and trade benefits/risk needs some balancing , but its a great game so far. and many things to come. If everyone just remembers to fly ships they can afford when it blows up... were all happy.
Understand that there are good guys , and bad guys in a game.....its just that simple. some wanna play the good guys , some the bad guys , and they both need eachother.
Ganking, pirating, murdering players, is part of playing said bad guy. Currently the crime punishment and trade benefits/risk needs some balancing , but its a great game so far. and many things to come. If everyone just remembers to fly ships they can afford when it blows up... were all happy.
I'm not denying any of that. I am arguing a single issue. That Nate claimed the game was advertised as open PvP, when it clearly is not.
So how does everyone do that then? You know when everyone wants to play in a completely different and incompatible way.
It's possibly the single most useless phrase that gets quoted here.
One side feels that anything the game allows them to do is;
A - "emergent gameplay" (another useless phrase) which validates their preferred play style and shows FD's "true intentions" for the game
B - Anything the other side does that the game allows them to do is cheating or exploiting.
It's priceless!
The viewpoint that's missing here is that bounties are supposed to be a DETERRENT not an INCENTIVE.
Players are now motivated to rack up huge bounties so they can allow others to benefit by easily reaping the reward for killing them. The other player then simply returns the favor. Then there's the guys actually selling their bounties for real cash on the web.
It's really better characterized as an EXPLOIT.
What's the downside of racking up huge bounties, then hopping in a Sidey and letting someone in your wing kill you for the bounty?
If the bounty were to come out of your net worth and the guy with the 450MIL bounty had to sell all his ships to pay for it this would all stop.
Players are now motivated to rack up huge bounties so they can allow others to benefit by easily reaping the reward for killing them. The other player then simply returns the favor. Then there's the guys actually selling their bounties for real cash on the web.
It's really better characterized as an EXPLOIT.
What's the downside of racking up huge bounties, then hopping in a Sidey and letting someone in your wing kill you for the bounty?
If the bounty were to come out of your net worth and the guy with the 450MIL bounty had to sell all his ships to pay for it this would all stop.
I wouldn't go quite so far as to call Nate that. I'm sure he fights fairly at all times.
Ofcourse it is buddy , once you choose open play...you agree to the chance of getting shot....and lets face it....the game is more exciting isnt it , if youre not sure you gonna reach that 100ly jump with all your goodies....and when you do.....go like '' YEAH I MADE IT''
Thrill of the game....
And that works for us pirates too ofcourse , the other way around...
So much fuzz about a few credits that can easily be replaced. If the game is too easy.....you got bored within a week....
Now now, naughty! I didn't say that I was referring to Nate.
I'm sure he prefers taking on high spec Conda's too ;-)
Yes mate, it can be more exciting. But it wasn't so for the OP. We are talking about the situation the OP found themselves in and NO that didn't sound like fun. Just pointless.
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