Outrun ? With a starter freagle or startwinder ? Neat trick against a wing of pimped out top level craft ..... given you'd be looking at 10 seconds to destruction.... oh you can jump out in 15 ? not when mass locked you can't.
Griefers are killing this game............
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1. This is not a slash and kill game. This is not game like Diablo, WoW, Cod, CS or etc. Noone says you can't grief. Do if you want. But this game is a simulation. We have goverments here, we have police, traders, explorers. So if you kill, you must get punished. What we have here? nothing. like in slash'n'kill or pvp game. 4 players stay at federation system and kill others for hours, days, month.
2. they killed - pay nothing. You killed - you lose creds. 2-30kk. They have fun, you lost time. (2-4 hours of farming)
3. 15 seconds? cmon, 2 pks with rails will smash your engines in 5. And if you have good, strong ship, 4 players will do it for that 15.
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And Op had wrote that in wing was 2 condas, so he had mass disrupt effect, what means much more than 15 secs.
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An out-system jump isn't effected by mass-lock and takes 15 seconds, practice rapidly selecting a nearby system and jumping with your left hand whilst you evade with your right.
If you are struggling in a starter ship switch to solo whilst you gain confidence/skill.
[facepalm] again.
I don't want to jump another system. And i don't want switch to solo. I want Normal mechanic in game, when police (not at juseless eagles, vipers and other junks) do their work, instead of interdict me and stare at my ship. And i want normal system of a punishment, that was in 1st elite. Kill one? you offender for hours, kill twice? You are fugitive and feel the wrath of a federation/Empire/etc.Wanna clear your stats? Pay. twice that player you killed lost. Wanna have fun killing? Go to anarchy. Want pvp? go to pvp/conflict zone, or challenge. I want normal space mmo, not a slash'n'kill like a diablo 3 or whatever.
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And now we have this game most comfortable only for griefers. Not even pirates, that only want cargo.
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Learn to protect yourself or learn to run away, anything else is a one way ticket to insuranceville because you refuse to avoid being a target.
Hi,
I didnt read the whole thread, only the first post. I'm trying to adress the issue of PK and grieffers here : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=135633&p=2073737#post2073737 , if you wanna give me your feed back. Roughly its just a simple idea to try make those PK part of the game, may be even fun, and soften the frustration on the merchant side. A personnal wanted list, a way to find people, and the hunt can start
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I didnt read the whole thread, only the first post. I'm trying to adress the issue of PK and grieffers here : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=135633&p=2073737#post2073737 , if you wanna give me your feed back. Roughly its just a simple idea to try make those PK part of the game, may be even fun, and soften the frustration on the merchant side. A personnal wanted list, a way to find people, and the hunt can start
.I just wonder, how will you protect yourself against 3-4 players fully loaded with rails, smash your ship in 5 secs, and after more 10 seconds your fsd will bring you to other system (insuranceville i guess). But i understand your point. It's normal that group for players can stand in one place (federal or etc) and killing all around for weeks and gain only numbers in their bounty. Good point.
It happens all the time, I last got interdicted and attacked by a wing of 3 CMDR's (1 asp 2 FDL's) a couple of days ago, I evaded (chaff, boost, evasive action) and jumped out they didn't drop my shields below half (i was in a vulture).
You need to take control of the engagement, look at your scanner if the ship interdicting you is in formation with other CMDR's in a wing plan an escape. Submit to interdicion do it on your terms and be ready, fight if you can flee if you can't.
Get couple of friends and fly in a wing, so you wont be easy targets.
Omega fighter is right if you are scared of open whilst flying solo this is your best bet.
I totally agree with DanTheMan. You are right. It is anti social griefers and trolls who are the ones who excuse their behavior by calling it legit, and telling decent players to get out of the game. Being attacked by NPC ships is, obviously, not griefing, but the situation you described is definitely griefing and trolling.
However ... combat logging is considered cheating by most, hence the reason for the 15 second logout delay when in danger. That is a shame since combat logging is only really useful when being griefed and trolled by anti social players whose goal is to ruin your gameplay, and who excuse their actions by aggressively complaining that it is legit and that decent players get out.
All in all, when being trolled and griefed (and regardless of the innuendo that anti social griefers throw around), it may seem the only option to prevent others destroying your enjoyment of this fantastic game, even though it is usually considered against the rules. However, as NPCs are not griefers, it is definitely not right when being attacked under those circumstances.
And (and I don't care if I get called out for starting a sentence with the word 'and'), when you have a bounty on your head, one is fair game to others, so combat logging then I would say is also not on.
However ... combat logging is considered cheating by most, hence the reason for the 15 second logout delay when in danger. That is a shame since combat logging is only really useful when being griefed and trolled by anti social players whose goal is to ruin your gameplay, and who excuse their actions by aggressively complaining that it is legit and that decent players get out.
All in all, when being trolled and griefed (and regardless of the innuendo that anti social griefers throw around), it may seem the only option to prevent others destroying your enjoyment of this fantastic game, even though it is usually considered against the rules. However, as NPCs are not griefers, it is definitely not right when being attacked under those circumstances.
And (and I don't care if I get called out for starting a sentence with the word 'and'), when you have a bounty on your head, one is fair game to others, so combat logging then I would say is also not on.
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Until crime has meaningful consequences there is no reason to bother playing in open. Grab some mates and play in a private group, but until the bounty system is overhauled open is the domain of griefers. At this point, selecting open is like agreeing that you can be killed at any time for no reason other than 'lulz'; I'm not sure what appeal there is in that kind of game environment, or the mentality of those who find it appealing.
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Many people find combat logging "useful" in many situations. Each and every single one of these people, utterly irrespective of reason, is a cheater who harms the enjoyment of this fantastic game for others.
Crime against me has all sorts of meaningful consequences. Go ahead, try it.
LOL.
How they get you in a slowest ships in game? Why you started a fight with more powerful ships?
Man, you just need to learn how to run
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=130815
Game mechanics allows running in most every case.
I am interdicting a wing of griefers (1vs4), shooting to them and running. And over and over again. And they cant do anything to me except crying
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Last time someone tried to ram me at full pelt I waited the thrusted downwards, was scooping at the time so they took a sun dive and got more of a tan than they wanted.
Briefing is when someone targets you specifically and keeps doing so, yeah its a pain but FD don't seem to want to do anything about ramming speed.
Briefing is when someone targets you specifically and keeps doing so, yeah its a pain but FD don't seem to want to do anything about ramming speed.
Internet tough guy act aside, until fines for murder are at least equal to the rebuy cost of the ship you have killed there is no real consequence for crime.
isn't this working as intended, at least for the time being?
Around around we go.. yes the consequence in the wanted/bounty system is broken, & yes it needs to be fixed , and yes players like myself will stay in private servers until it is .
For a cheap throw away ship based on your wealth , shouldn't be cheap , nothing is cheap for the new guy starting out.
Make bad behavior expensive very expensive , have 600 trillion dollars your sidewinder will cost 100 trillion and then make it difficult to move around , dock at stations if your have a high bounty
Space is vast and takes huge amounts of resources /money to move around , ED should reflect this
For a cheap throw away ship based on your wealth , shouldn't be cheap , nothing is cheap for the new guy starting out.
Make bad behavior expensive very expensive , have 600 trillion dollars your sidewinder will cost 100 trillion and then make it difficult to move around , dock at stations if your have a high bounty
Space is vast and takes huge amounts of resources /money to move around , ED should reflect this
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REALLY?.....REALLY? After all this time we are STILL being blamed for this and that lol, go get a grip mate. Its just people doing what they do best (sometimes) which is be an
Nothing more, no conspiracy etc....../rollseyes- Status