Well..... I can't say, so I guess I won't.
Grind requirements are insane
- Thread starter torloisk
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Engineers are kinda anti-sandbox in nature. They add "Item Levels" style "MMO gear" to space game and breaks balance. And player forced to do pants-on-the-head activities...for upgrading his ship?
For reference, how long do you think it should take to upgrade? For me, I’d say 8-10 hours per level of just playing and picking things up along the way sounds good. This is highly varied from person to person.
My approach from Odessy launch was to first look at the engineers...and start working on missions to unlock them. Those 10 restore and repair settlements seems easy enough. And for good measure I’ll take shuttles everywhere to unlock that engineer who wants the 100 LY in a shuttle.
I’ve been sticking to only planet side concourses and I’ve found a G3 Artemis, a G3 laser rifle (forgot name), a G3 rocket launcher, and a G2 maverick and some other G2 weapons.
When doing the repair settlement missions, I’m finding a lot of mats in these places. Then I’ve been trading with bartenders. I’ve upgraded the repeating laser carbine to level 3 from 1. It’s slow going, but I’m just playing the game casually and picking stuff up along the way.
I’d like to see weapons and things salvageable from enemies bodies. Seems like the only cool loot moments are when you run to Pioneer and see what they have. It’s a little dull. I want to see some stuff in wrecks and assassination targets.
How did you have enough time in your days, along with sleeping, to collect all of that since the game released? You do understand that if you really did this, you would be an extreme edge-case and that most people would never play 15 hours/day to collect these in so few days, right.
Possibly but engineering ships to get the best jump range (I mean record breaking distances) or the fastest racer (i've got a viper that cruises at 707 m/s and boosts to over 900) is a bit of a mini game in itself? It often gets argued that engineering forces an arms race, especially in PvP but really I think that's true in any case. If someone turns up in an Anaconda, regardless of any engineering,you'll always struggle in a Sidewinder so pressure is to buy an Anaconda too. Asymmetry in combat is just a fact of life.
I quite enjoy tinkering with ships like that, calling it actual gameplay, but as someone else sad, the last thing you want to do is go grinding for materials imo. Best bet is to do other things - bounty hunt, pirate, CZ or scavenge surfaces for caches, and pick up materials on the way like a good habit, not paying much attention to it. Then, when you feel like setting up a new ship, what materials have I got? You've got what accrued .. and a materials trader sorts out the rest.
Fair question. About that timeframe should be ok. But people are different and I'm rather slow at this. I just tried my first restore mission and it took me 2,5 hours to loot the place and to complete the mission. I looted before I activated the place and got lost. Expecting that I would get better over time in 8-10 hours I may do 6-8 missions. I'm not sure if that would be sufficient to get a suit upgrade.
BTW, almost lost my ship when the turrets came active and I was still extinguishing the fires.
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Lol, I try to take missions that are on the same planet and then hop around on it. I found going back to a small ship is much more enjoyable for planetside work. I’m back in my trusty Cobra, but Asp Scout or Diamondback would be great also. I did about 4 salvage missions, then had to get some papers from a mining settlements. I hadn’t seen one of those and there were these big energy drills everywhere. I went and took a look at the hole, instant death...dumb move on my part. That adds a couple hours to the next upgrade for sure. Now some people would flip out at loosing the other missions, I still had a good time for a couple hours before work.
You're confusing things. Those 28 settlements don't really change the fact that in the end you're just opening containers and waiting for bars to fill up. While it's nice to have variety, even 150 settlements wouldn't add depth to the gameplay.
Reminds me of the discussion back in the day: "Why do all star ports look the same"
I play since 2014, NEVER need to grind.
I've played since 2012, and its always been a grind.
This could easily be fixed by changing the copper wires to polonium-enriched iridium super wires, and adding a little blurb stating they can only be manufactured in advanced Federation facilities in low orbit around class 4 gas giants... but I guess that's too far out for some people.
Really? In wich game? Because elite dangerous was release in December of 2014.
And the the alpha in December of 2013
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Sorry for self quoting, but that would be an idea for some more emergent gameplay..
Let me post some missions for the mats on my / any FC for instance
Ahh they solved relogging yes...but not from 1000km away ;-)
Really?