And there it is.
Grind requirements are insane
- Thread starter torloisk
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And there it is.
Odyssey grind is at least Horizon grind x3 plus the fact that you can store only 1000 items of each category no matter what. In Horizons you get 3 pieces of each material and you have an inventory of 100-300 for each material. Hundreds of hours of grind to get a decent suits and 2 decent weapons is somewhat discouraging. I engineered a Corvette in one weekend and I couldn't engineer my Maverick suit in the same time to Grade2.
You did not understand what I was trying to say did you?
Hint: none of these materials are used in any ship blueprints
[Insert Wilhelm Scream here]
but your a sock puppet
To me it's acceptable if it takes some time, but you should be able to experience progress after some loot "missions". Just playing the game? Well, looting and esp. FPS is not the part I currently enjoy in ED. Though, I want upgrades and mods for the Artemis suite for exploration purposes.
Night vision (why not standard?), better jumping, increased sprint are helpful for planetary exploration.
The whole progression? Oh, wait - I take it back. It wasn't really just grindwalled. It was grindwalled, bugged and incomplete at release.
Night vision not being standard when it is available on our ships and SRVs is questionable - especially since they made the dark side of planets darker...
Interesting thoughts on being able to experience progress after some loot "missions". I think it could be quite cool for example, to find mods as part of scavenging. Find a POI with weapon crates, maybe you can scavenge a mod from it. A storage container - find a backpack mod.
We have what... 8-10 mods available for a weapon or suit. All with the exact same stats.
Imagine if we could scavenge mods of varying effectiveness:
- Backpack mods with different amounts of slots
- Mag extenders with different sizes
- Scopes of varying zoom levels
Instead we have 8-10 cookie cutter mods that cost an arm and a leg and don't really do... much.
#inb4urdoingitwrong
Progression is grindwall?
Grindwall is supposed to cut you off from part of the game.
I don't recall anything like that.
Yeah, like in buffed NPC in Combat Zones when there were none before? Prime repurposing of vanilla gameplay behind new arbitrary unlocks. You're pretty much in denial. But what can you expect from a player who just rides along in the meta chariot. The powercreep has become the new normal.
Thanks for the hint. I didn't give up yet and will try this later today.
Occasionally finding a mod, that would be neat. But varying stats? Ugh, please no, I'll take fixed stats any day rather than add an upgrade path or a roulette. Suit upgrades are already the boring kind of upgrade path. Mods are perfect as they are imho. If anything there should be a few more competing for spots, and they should be swappable, not perma built-in.
The one redeeming thing is that you can find pre-engineered stuff. Or pre-upgraded. I wouldn't bother with the boring loot chase, if you don't feel too pressed for better gear.
Yeah, loot rouletto can kiss my dog.
You're hilarious.
I do not grind. I do not use meta approach. I do not feel cut off from anything in the game.
Some things are harder, some are easier, I don't need to be able to be efffective at everything from the start.
It seems you're the one whining about meta being too hard for you.
The Division had a similar system. You'd find random stat items in the world, but then you were able to refine them to get them to the top tier.
In the Elite world it could be:
- You scavenge a backpack mod with +3 slots or whatever
- You can take this mod to an engineer and they can refine it to the max capacity (up to +10 or whatever it is). (Similar in some respects to how the ship engineers would refine your stock modules)
Definitely, they should be swappable though.