General / Off-Topic How Alien 3 should have been....

I believe that is mainly because many people preferred the "action scifi" tone of the 2nd movie over the "claustrophobic horror" tone of the first, and the 3rd was much closer to the first than the 2nd. I'm not saying that is good or bad, I actually loved all 3.
I actually prefer the first over the second myself, though the second is also one of my all time favorites. The third would've been a good film as well, if the writers and director hadn't killed off most of the survivors of the second film right at the beginning. Not only did it essentially negate the second film, but it also negated a bunch of very good published fiction featuring a grown up Newt.
 
You forgot to mention the awful quality of the dialogue.. sounded like it was written by a disaffected teenager..
 
I actually prefer the first over the second myself, though the second is also one of my all time favorites. The third would've been a good film as well, if the writers and director hadn't killed off most of the survivors of the second film right at the beginning. Not only did it essentially negate the second film, but it also negated a bunch of very good published fiction featuring a grown up Newt.
Hollywood writers come in batches of stupid, can't be their writing skills that gets them the job.
 
Not my Alien 3: Vincent Wards version would have been crazy...

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More to the point: after so much time does it really matter?
It doesn’t, however as a case study it show us how a good story can be ruined by bad writers, just like GoT S8 was utterly demolished by incompetent writers (both of them) because there wasn’t anything to copy and paste from.
 
Like Alien vs Predator. Nothing to do with the lore.

I'd argue it is, although I wish it would go away.

You could also argue that Aliens is not lore too, just an interpretation of Ridley Scott / Giger ideas. For example Alien reproduction- In Alien its much weirder but has a Queen in Aliens (and after the DH comics) only to revert back to goo / weird with Prometheus (Scott).
 
For curiosity sake, why do people tend to hate Alien 3?
I thought it got a bad rap TBH.
Much better than AVP and no nonsense in it like "genetic memory".

Don't get me wrong it's not as good as 1 or 2 imo (both top notch films) but a good solid part of the franchise.

And on top of that a great cast imo..... Who (in England over 40) does not think of milk when watching the film?.
 
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I thought it got a bad rap TBH.
Much better than AVP and no nonsense line "genetic memory".

Don't get me wrong it's not as good as 1 or 2 imo (both top notch films) but a good solid part of the franchise.

Indeed. Which as I've mentioned earlier is much better with the directors cut version. Even Fincher himself does a short intro on the movie explaining this and how the directors cut was what he wanted for the theater release.
 
Indeed. Which as I've mentioned earlier is much better with the directors cut version. Even Fincher himself does a short intro on the movie explaining this and how the directors cut was what he wanted for the theater release.

Is that the 'assembly' cut Alien 3?
 
I'd argue it is, although I wish it would go away.

You could also argue that Aliens is not lore too, just an interpretation of Ridley Scott / Giger ideas. For example Alien reproduction- In Alien its much weirder but has a Queen in Aliens (and after the DH comics) only to revert back to goo / weird with Prometheus (Scott).
Alien vs Predator is just a commercial merge of the two franchise, the two universe was never connected, not by lore or time.

here is the timeline and what is canon in the Alien Universe.
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Alien vs Predator is just a commercial merge of the two franchise, the two universe was never connected, not by lore or time.

here is the timeline and what is canon in the Alien Universe.
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No, I mean Resurrection being canon. That film wrecks the franchise for me. AVP is just a Dark Horse wet dream that also needs to die.
 
I have the quite the list of shame with alien. Bought 1,2 and 3 on VHS (don't think I bought 4)
The. Bought 1 and 2 on dvd
Then Bought alien predator total destruction dvd
then Bought the quadrilogy on blueray

Most of these went unwatched (instead watching reruns when on TV)

. I have watched 1 and 2 of quadrilogy and now have the urge to watch alien 3.

I have similar history of shame with predator ending up with the trilogy blu ray (still in shrink rap)
 
The only versions I bought were in this:

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