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Robin of Spiritwood

Robin of Spiritwood
Do you eat snacks and food over a 15 hour period each day? Say from 7 am to around 10 pm at night?

That's the modern norm. On weekends, after a party, people might go for a bite around 3 am too.
Down here, you can get Syrian gyros, Venezuelan arepas, BBQ, and doubles. Also a variety of other things- like oysters, corn soup, shark sandwiches etc. All available in the whee wee hours.

Now, if we are gaining weight, we look at what we eat. We give up things we might like. Eat things that are "healthy" but not particularly thrilling. Like lettuce. :(
Maybe we count calories. Or we try walking, and count steps. :unsure:

What if we didn't need any of that?
What if we could eat the same exact food, not exercise, and somehow lose fat, increase lean mass, prevent diseases, and live longer ? And it cost nothing to boot?
Like most average people, I eat badly at all hours.
SO I'm going to try to clean that up simply stopping by 7pm. And I'm going to eat some kind of breakfast from tomorrow, and subtract the calories, roughly, from the last meal of the day.

... the presence of artificial light enables human activity throughout the 24h day. This disrupted activity-rest cycle indirectly disrupts the natural daily cycle of feeding and fasting, and facilitates excessive caloric intake. Such chronically disrupted temporal regulation contributes to metabolic diseases but may also accelerate the aging process.
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... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5388543/

It seems that there are a bunch of clock circuits in our brains.
They operate on roughly 24 hour cycles, and release timed hormones and change autonomic nervous system signals during the day-night cycle. Growth Hormone, for instance, runs about 500 genes on this periodic basis. If we can preserve the normal cycle by eating within a 10 hour timeframe, we can move things in a favorable direction. Because Insulin sensitivity is best earlier, front loading our daily food to before 10 am might be helpful.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6627766/
Collectively, our data suggest that eTRF improves several facets of health through both circadian- and fasting-related mechanisms.
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In addition to lowering mean 24-hour glucose levels, eTRF also lowered fasting glucose and insulin in the morning, increased fasting insulin in the evening, and decreased 24-hour glycemic excursions.
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180831130131.htm
the health problems associated with disruptions to animals' 24-hour rhythms of activity and rest -- which in humans is linked to eating for most of the day or doing shift work -- can be corrected by eating all calories within a 10-hour window.
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Most people would be looking for just some fat loss, and be happy if that happens, but I'm really looking out for changing my immune status and blocking off cancer. That's a tall order for just juggling round some eating. But hey, it's free.
 
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Stigbob

Stigbob
I'm currently doing the 5-2 diet on doctors orders. That's where you try to eat healthily (5-a-day) and two days a week limit yourself to 600 only calories. All snacking replaced with fruit.

My trousers are very loose fitting already and my energy levels have shot up due to healthier non-refined sugars.

The key for me and dieting has always been forcing myself to eat breakfast, so low sugar alpen with extra dried fruit does the trick slow release energy all day.
 

Morbad

Morbad
Sounds like intermittent fasting, which is something my wife has been trying, with some success.

Personally, I'm pretty sure I have some non-24 sleep-wake disorder and that I naturally tend toward a variable cycle that is generally substantially longer than 24 hours; I have always had extreme difficulty in maintaining a normal 24-hour pattern. I also don't seem to be affected by ambient light conditions in the slightest; I can fall asleep outside at noon just as easily as I can in my bed at night and changing light conditions almost never disturb my sleep. I also generally sleep quite well. Of course, I've never been officially diagnosed with anything as I haven't felt this has had any negative side-effects since I've been able to freely adhere to my particular compulsions regarding sleeping and eating times, which has essentially been the bulk of my adult life (my overall health and fitness improved dramatically after leaving high-school, without really making any conscious effort to improve it).

As for eating, when I'm hungry I find what I'm craving or a suitable approximation of it and I ingest it until the cravingis sated then I go back to doing whatever it was I was doing until hunger reminds me to eat again. I also try to make sure I'm eating something that would have existed before the advent of heavily processed grains and sugars, rather than modern junk food that's been engineered to take advantage of cravings without providing the nutrition that is actually being craved...though I do have a few weaknesses.

Robin of Spiritwood said:
If you want, you can take part in a little data collection here:
https://mycircadianclock.org/
You just need a cell phone to take pics.
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Even if the phone I had wasn't so simple it didn't have a camera and was something I typically carried, I'd find this a bit of an intrusion into my privacy.

Seems neat though.
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
I’m a little extremist

In the morning, only coffee. At noon, an apple, in the evening a normal meal with little fat, little sugar.

Add 14 kilometers in swimming per week + a hundred kilometers in intense walking per week also, and I have a mannequin size.

:)
 

Robin of Spiritwood

Robin of Spiritwood
Day 1 went OK, with good sleep, and woke up at 6:30 am spontaneously.
Ate oats. Good daytime alertness.

Today will be bad. Went to a fair, had a hot chocolate after 6 pm, and then a couple women got me to drink some homemade wine, which is really not part of the plan. Still, nothing after 7:30pm is workable. Breakfast around 8:30 isnt too bad.

This is "intermittent fasting" lite? Maybe? It's easy if you don't go out. I'm taking green tea, no sugar in the night to switch on AMPK.

Next week I have some day shifts, will try to push through for 7 days, and just stick to a routine. Be interesting to see if weight changes.
 

Arry

Arry
Err.... Yes Robin. You picked a fine time, to think about, limiting your input?

This is a January thing. Diet books, used to sell very well, between, January and April.

Did you know, that if you put a dog, on a diet. It 'will' lose weight. Well, unless, it knows, how to get into the fridge?

Life preservation? We, basically, become what we eat. Look at the Big Mac crowds. At the same time, you can spot a psycho Vegan. Food and the type of food we consume, has got to play a role, in live expectancy, etc.. Keep it natural and as with everything, we all indulge in. Moderation, is the key.

The big C? I have always seen this, as an environmental thing. We make contact with something, that will set it off. Yes, I understand, that the cell clusters, are there, inside us, but it is my belief. That the trigger, is something around us. The Sun. A massive killer there. Heavy metals, to dust, can do the same. So, I would say that to avoid such dangers, think about where you are going, over what you consume.

I smoke, I drink and dump spoons full of sugar, on my cornflakes. But a long time ago, as a child, I was told, that I would have been dead, 18 years ago. So I have never, taken too much care, about what I ate. To me, eating is to feed the machine. Nothing more. Sort of. i try to only eat, the things I like and with the things I really like, because of moderation. I savour, the food.
 
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ArchEmperor

ArchEmperor
Fasting from evening to lunch is good unless you have a physically hard workday in the morning. Adapt your calorie intake so that you can cope with the day, no more no less.

Fasting during evening, night and optionally mornings, better your sleep and lowers your resting heart rate. Avoid coffee, tea and alcoholic beverages.
 
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