How feasible are Thargoids science wise?

It depends largely on where Thargoids come from. Fluidic Space? Alternate universe? Are the laws of that realm compatable with ours?

The question is so wide that literally any answer is both right and wrong.
Plutonians sighted!

Can ammonia based life exist? Check.
Do insects have a brain? Check.
Can they learn? Check.
Can they use tools? Check.
Can they communicate? Check.

Can an amonia based, insectoid, space faring civilisation, at least theoretically and scientifically, exist? Check.
 
Food for Thought:

Part of what makes rampant space exploration so interesting (for aliens or us) is that, pending the fueling needs of that exploration, you basically let the genie out of the bottle on limited growth.

If we could travel to any system (today) within 2000ly in the short times we do in Elite...we'd have effectively infinite resources. Our limiting factors would boil down to our ability to create processes (and technology) to utilize those resources, and nothing else. We see some of this today, actually, in specific instances:

Earth is more than capable of producing ample food for the entire population of all living creatures - and we have the technology to do it, too. The limiting factor is, of course, wars, politics, cultures and resources being considered to be valuable. In a distant future, that last one is almost exclusively determined by rate of acquisition rather than 'do we have it or not'.

Put very simply - in space exploration, everyone is resource rich and wealth becomes defined by logistical capacity to exploit infinite resources. Put another way, it's about how much you have but how quickly you can use it!


Back to OP...take that tid-bit and apply it to a hive-mind race that lacks the bottlenecks of most civilized cultures (Guardians included, apparently).

If the only limiting factor is how fast you can use your unlimited resources (not politics, wars, agreements, perceptions of relative wealth) - also known as perfect socialism - you get a very scary, very capable hive-mind. It is limited only by its imagination and capacity to grow intelligence.
 
The issue with the hive mind idea in relation to ants etc is that there is no evidence I know of that there is anything controlling them, all the different varieties are specialised for what they do.

I don't see an issue with either of the usual SF takes on a hive mind, the brain creature thinks and the rest do or the creatures linked minds do the thinking, and space travel as long as you don't have to have all the members of the species as one hive mind then each 'ship' load could be one hive.
 
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The issue with the hive mind idea in relation to ants etc is that there is no evidence I know of that there is anything controlling them, all the different varieties are specialised for what they do.

I don't see an issue with either of the usual SF takes on a hive mind, the brain creature thinks and the rest do or the creatures linked minds do the thinking, and space travel as long as you don't have to have all the members of the species as one hive mind then each 'ship' load could be one hive.

With what we know the Guardians were capable of producing in terms of the Cyber Implants to connect to the Monolith network, the insect hive, even if lacking the classic SF hive mind, could end up creating one if they had the innovation and need to create similar Cyber Implants and interstellar communications network, possibly without the same social stigma and resistance.

If the Codex is correct that the drones communicated in some non verbal way, a technological solution to the separation space flight and FTL travel causes could be creating the actual hive mind where one didn't exist before, where it was a functioning insect hive with castes and roles we see in ants or bee etc
 
Basing this around this concept art picture I've seen floating around the webz for some time. I've no idea if it's official/real or random fan art.
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I'm no expert in evolutionary biology and the likes so I've been thinking, how likely would it be for hive-mind "insects" to evolve into a space faring species? What effects would such evolution have on their anatomy, physiology and such? How would their biomechanics define/affect the design language of their tools, vehicles, ships and so on? What would their cities look like? Do they have cities as such? What means of transport they used before space travel? Would they even need to travel, all being one mind, thus everyone being everywhere, what purpose would traveling serve? No need to visit in-laws.. Being a hive-mind, would they wear clothes/accessories to indicate their place in society? Would they have any kind of culture - arts, crafts, music, fashion, popular?

And to backtrack a little, what kind of conditions should the Thargoid homeworld have to even support man-sized insects? If they are indeed insectoids of some kind. Then again it's said that they "are experts in bioengineering, so they may have augmented their own biology to a point where natural evolutionary processes are meaningless." In that light, the above picture would be way off as they'd probably resemble a machine more than anything organic and that basically renders this whole post moot. But I'll keep it because I'm typing this little paragraph after I typed everything else, lol.
But hey, we can discuss and speculate what would make scientifically feasible alien species in general. Not just Thargoids.

Anyway, one attribute that's been credited for human race's advance from tree branches to where we are now is our hand. More precisely, the fact that we can touch our pinkies with our thumbs, something no other primate can do, allowing the use of fine motor skills required to do small movements, pick up and hold small things, handle tools and do any kind of precision work. Looking at the picture above, I think dude with appendages like that isn't going to build anything too complicated anytime soon. The stance lacks intelligence, too. Just slouching on its four legs, hands hanging limp. Not poised at all (that of course could be on the artist for not putting effort to pose his/her creation). But still, imagine that dude working in a lab, doing RNA splicing or some such. Doesn't really cut it, does it? Speaking of laboratories. What about computers? Would hive-mind race even need them or would they just store everything in their collective mind.

It's actually the one thing that irks me in scifi games and movies. The weird looking alien species just for the sake of looking weird. All kinds of spikes and tentacles sticking out of their bodies and what not, yet none of it seem to serve any purpose other than to look alien. But then for some reason, no matter how tentacly and blobby the alien in question is, all their equipment, weapons and spacecrafts somehow seem to be designed to be operated by a two legged, two armed hominid with five digits in each appendage. How peculiar.
Anyway, I'd imagine their evolution would work the same as ours and remove features that are no longer needed. Insectoid races would probably lose chitin in their exoskeletons over time after learning they could make their own and wear them for even more protection and so on. Basically, the more advanced the race, the less features their bodies would have. At least that would be my uneducated logic.
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I guess one of the examples we can turn to as far as "hive mind bad guys" can be found in Robert A Heinliens "Starship Troopers" as well as "Enders Game" by Orson Scott Card. Both of those aliens were described as "bug-like" while achieving sufficient intelligence to achieve faster than light travel (or in Starship Troopers case, use gravity to hurl asteroids at earth)

I'd write more, but i'm watching a new episode of a show. Hive Minds are capable of interstellar travel AND waging war. Can't tell me they don't
 
Part of the problem with determining whether certain hypothetical alien civilizations are "scientifically feasible" or not, is that science relies on data, and right now, the number of data points we have on the feasibility of sentient species is precisely 1. As any scientist will tell you, a single data point is useless for extrapolation, because you can make it go any which way you like. You could extrapolate it to say that only a "Star Trek universe" is "scientifically feasible" (aliens must all be carbon -based oxygen-breathing humanoid bipeds, with species differentiated by the bumps on their foreheads). Or you could extrapolate it to say that a hive mind of colonial bacteria, or a sentient lifeform based on superfluidic helium as a biofluid that thinks a planet at 6 K is too warm, are both "scientifically feasible".

Here's an example of the dangers of extrapolating from a single data point. Back when Sol system was the only planetary system we knew anything at all about, we assumed (using the Mediocrity Principle) that our Solar system must be "typical" or "average" or "normal", and fictional-alien-star-system-generators (like the precursor to the Stellar Forge that generated the FE2 galaxy) tended to be programmed to generate star systems that more or less looked similar to our own: bunch of rocky planets, gap for asteroids, bunch of gas giants. But now we're starting to collect some good data on what an "average" alien star system actually looks like, and it turns out that Sol system is not "normal" or "average" in layout.
 
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