How to know what is rare!

Pootling around a small area of a region of space not too far from the bubble, I often come across things that are pretty and sometimes a little odd or just different. If I had not seen the article about the GGG I would not know that such a thing is a rare beauty that people want to see or revisit. It's not like ED jumps up and says anything on discovery.

So my question is - how do I know that I've discovered something rare? Is there a guide of the rarest sights like the GGG?
 
Pootling around a small area of a region of space not too far from the bubble, I often come across things that are pretty and sometimes a little odd or just different. If I had not seen the article about the GGG I would not know that such a thing is a rare beauty that people want to see or revisit. It's not like ED jumps up and says anything on discovery.

So my question is - how do I know that I've discovered something rare? Is there a guide of the rarest sights like the GGG?

You could try to check the EDSM "rare" statistics via here: https://www.edsm.net/en_GB/statistics/bodies
 
Maybe something like Elite Observatory could help detect rare things, one you know what they are...
Observatory pops up with "interesting" things - like close orbit compared to mass, such as the moons below. It does so pretty regularly.
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But something like this would not cause an alert: A gas giant with deep royal blue storms. Or would it be better if it were green? ;)
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So my question is - how do I know that I've discovered something rare? Is there a guide of the rarest sights like the GGG?
Rarity is in the eye of the beholder; something that's rare might not be a good sight to see. For example, there are several green gas giants which look almost exactly like normal gas giants do, with only a tiny patch of green on them somewhere. All green gas giants are rare, sure, but not all of them might be an interesting sight.

So, if you want to know about rarity as in numbers, you can always look those up, or just ask people. As for sights, your best bet would be to look at the Galactic Exploration Catalog, see what kinds of entries are voted high, which ones you look at and decide that you'd like to see for yourself, and so on.
 
Rarity is in the eye of the beholder; something that's rare might not be a good sight to see. For example, there are several green gas giants which look almost exactly like normal gas giants do, with only a tiny patch of green on them somewhere. All green gas giants are rare, sure, but not all of them might be an interesting sight.

So, if you want to know about rarity as in numbers, you can always look those up, or just ask people. As for sights, your best bet would be to look at the Galactic Exploration Catalog, see what kinds of entries are voted high, which ones you look at and decide that you'd like to see for yourself, and so on.
Thank you. This is most useful!
 
There is a post on what is considered 'rare'

But I can not find it anymore. Did you not start is @marx ?
This one?
 
Maybe something like Elite Observatory could help detect rare things, one you know what they are...

I have a custom criteria that tells me when landable planets have oxygen atmosphere, while not super rare, they are rare enough that I land on every one to get first footfall. So yes you can do that, since GGG do show up as objects you could program a custom criteria for it I suppose, not sure on that one. But of course you would probably sit there for a year or two scanning systems ad never see it pop up, that's rare for you though!
 
There are things that are rare, but not really all that interesting, or pretty, from an in-game perspective. "Terraformable metal-rich" planets are one of the rarest planet types in the galaxy; I think there's still only a dozen or so of them known (compared to 2 dozen GGGs known). Yet... they're not photogenic, not particularly interesting or appealing beyond looking exactly like every other regular metal-rich planet. Nor are they valuable, nor even something that someone would want to cross the galaxy to visit - the only people actively seeking out known examples of them are the "gotta catch 'em all" fill-the-Codex planetspotters.

There are things that are rare and "interesting" from an astronomical perspective, but the game doesn't go out of its way to warn you about them, or to show you the reason for the rarity. My personal favourites are the Earth-likes on extremely eccentric, comet-like orbits. Again, only a dozen or so of them are known, and the only telltales are the weird orbit lines they normally generate, and the high "eccentricity" value in the planet's statistics page. ELWs in Trojan Orbits of gas giants or other giant planets are similarly rare and cool, but similarly "boring-looking" from an astrophotography point of view, and the only way to spot them is to either "git gud" at interpreting the system map, spot them visually on the Orrery map, or have a Trojan-spotting algorithm running in Observatory.

Then there are things that theoretically ought to exist, but which, due to the way the Stellar Forge is programmed, are so rare that either they don't exist at all, or are so rare no-one has yet found an example of. An Earth-like moon orbiting around an Earth-like planet, for example; "hand-crafted" terraformed examples of these can be found in the Bubble, but out of the thousands of "naturally occurring" ELW pairs known to date, none of them are in this configuration.

Another "theoretically possible but never found" example is an Earth-like planet where all the planet's physical and environmental properties exactly match those of Earth - an "Earth's perfect Twin". Most ELWs with Earth's mass/gravity are generated with atmospheres 2 to 4 times thicker than Earth, for example, so they're not truly "twins of Earth". There's only half a dozen planets that have come to within 20% of a perfect match.

Finally, it should be pointed out: It's really, really improbable that you will actually find one of these rarities just by exploring at random, or even by a methodical survey of a piece of the galaxy. If only ten examples of something are known, when nearly 100 million star systems have been surveyed, then the probability of finding one of those at random is, yeah... literally a one in ten million chance.
 
Finally, it should be pointed out: It's really, really improbable that you will actually find one of these rarities just by exploring at random, or even by a methodical survey of a piece of the galaxy. If only ten examples of something are known, when nearly 100 million star systems have been surveyed, then the probability of finding one of those at random is, yeah... literally a one in ten million chance.

Yep, my two rare finds were basically single events only, setting up say a custom criteria to warn you if it happened again would be wildly optimistic, but some of us are indeed wildly optimistic!
 
There are things that are rare, but not really all that interesting, or pretty, from an in-game perspective. "Terraformable metal-rich" planets are one of the rarest planet types in the galaxy; I think there's still only a dozen or so of them known (compared to 2 dozen GGGs known).
You're off on both counts: there are 40 known GGGs (see the list of them here) and 63 known MRTs. So the latter category is actually found at a better rate, and they outnumber the green gas giants now. But yeah, as things stand now, MRTs are scientific curiosities that unfortunately don't differ in sights.

Also, a fun fact to remark on what you wrote about really improbable finds: the last time we had an official number from Frontier on the number of discovered systems was January 20 this year, it was 222,083,678 systems, and at that time, 38 GGGs were known. That comes out to one green gas giant per 5.8 million systems then. However, before the Codex, a lot of them would have gone unremarked simply due to the green not being visible on the system map view. Still, estimating the rate of their discovery since then still pops out 2-2.5 million systems on average.
So, um, yeah, if anyone wants to go looking for one specifically, good luck with that - you're going to need it.

Another "theoretically possible but never found" example is an Earth-like planet where all the planet's physical and environmental properties exactly match those of Earth - an "Earth's perfect Twin". Most ELWs with Earth's mass/gravity are generated with atmospheres 2 to 4 times thicker than Earth, for example, so they're not truly "twins of Earth". There's only half a dozen planets that have come to within 20% of a perfect match.
I'm not sure if it could ever exist, due to Elite's Earth's composition (exactly 70% Rock and 30% Metal) seemingly being out of bounds of what the Stellar Forge generates for natural ELWs. Without being able to match that, some parameters will always be off - for starters, can't hit the same mass and the same radius both.
 
I'm not much of an Explorer, mostly a traveler
I still want to find a GGG, a Carbon C star and several other of the rarest stars.

However, as i said, i did found these (2 of them listed below)

The Gas Giant and with 6 gas giant moons

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And the Twins G supergiants (rare enough to have my alt's name listed on EDSM rares statistics - section Records > G (White-Yellow super giant) Star)

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Not to rain on your parade but the G class supergiant record is indicative that you were the first person to find 2 G class supergiants in the same system. However, it might be exceedingly hard to find 3, so a few people may have found 2 but it's too hard to find 3. Still a really cool find though, and definitely rare (not something you would come across without searching for it)
 
As an astronomy nerd I tend to find strange orbital configurations or unlikely solar systems interesting. So this is my personal taste:
Quadruple+ Planets: I keep a list of quadruple or higher planets, but as high as a sextuple system has been found (credit: Fossiles)
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Ringed Main Sequence or Stellar Remnant Stars: I keep a list of ringed M class or hotter stars, as well as neutron and white dwarf stars. However you can systematically find these using H mass stars so perhaps they are not really rare.
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Rare stars as planets: Within H mass star systems it is possible for certain stars to be planets when they otherwise wouldn't be. Red Giants are one of these rare planet types but some other things exist too, such as certain white dwarf types, carbon stars, and even a few supergiant stars.
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Many Giants: As shown earlier, finding 3 giant stars or 2+ supergiants in the same system is pretty rare. It requires multiple stars of almost exactly the same mass so that they both start dying at the same time. To find these usually requires skimming the system map which is pretty tedious, but they're cool.

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Many Submoons: Finding lots of submoons is cool. I found one with 5 submoons. I know I have found some with more but I didn't keep track of them before.
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Supergiant Secondaries are also cool.

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And of course, if you can find an ELW around any of these crazy systems, then that is a very special ELW!

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Hopefully this gives a little insight into my taste of rare objects.
 
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