Guide / Tutorial How to train combat?

DjVortex

DjVortex
After about 6 months of just exploration (and some missions during the first couple of months), I finally decided to take the plunge and introduce myself to the combat aspect of the game. So I built myself a badass anti-xeno combat ship and headed towards the closest Thargoid-controlled system to test it out. I put up a good fight (which lasted for several minutes) but was ultimately overwhelmed by the amount of enemies so I had to escape. I had received so much corrosive hull damage that I barely could not make it to the closest station port (exploding right at the mail slot).

Clearly I took a bite that was a bit too large for starters. So, is there some easiest way to train combat, preferably against Thargoids? Something where I don't get overwhelmed by half a dozen super-fast Thargoid ships? Or is it just random luck?
 

aRJay

aRJay

oblivionmanman 2476

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i would suggest, have you done the engineering and upgrades. or have the creds or ships,its the only way against goids or high powerd players ,take advice from other players there is no free meal in this game,but good luck 07.
 

DjVortex

DjVortex
I wasn't asking how to destroy thargoids, I was asking if there would be some way to train combat against them in a slightly easier environment than have a half dozen of them swarm you.
 

aRJay

aRJay
The nearest thing to a safer environment for encountering Thargoids would be a low threat number Non Human Signal Source (NHSS) where you will encounter a wing of 4 scouts or a single Interceptor depending on the threat level, they will be essentially non aggressive at first if the NHSS is not in one of the invasion systems.

Other than that about all I can think of is have a lot of friends around to try and keep the other Thargoids busy.
 

Helmut Grokenberger

Helmut Grokenberger
Have you not done any combat ever at all?

Thargoid combat is the easiest at ground port CZs. Which is a problem, because there aren't alot of them anymore - over the easter weekend, there was one single one that worked. But there the Goids do not deploy swarms, so they are a bit easier to tackle. Also, at ground ports and station CZs you can land to repair and restock.

That said: You might not want to hear that, but starting combat with Thargoids is probably doing it backwards. Yes, AX combat differs in quite a few ways from human combat, but I would still advise you to get familiar with the ins and outs of combat fighting human NPCs before taking on Thargoids. Go and train your muscle memory for fixed weapon aiming, selecting targets, targeting subsystems, switching weapons, synthing stuff during combat, your spatial awareness of your enemies, and using your lateral and vertical thrusters to modify the ship's turning behaviour in Res sites. Once you got that down and taking on wings in a HazRes is second nature, move over to AX combat.

You can of course try to learn it with Goids, but be prepared for a lot of running away and quite a few rebuys that way.

Edit says: Winging up or generally fighting where a lot of players are active helps too, but you might not learn a lot when the other players one-shot gib the Interceptors with their ShardCondas.
 
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Fnord Velkor

Fnord Velkor
DjVortex said:
I wasn't asking how to destroy thargoids, I was asking if there would be some way to train combat against them in a slightly easier environment than have a half dozen of them swarm you.
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Well if you had looked in the link I gave you you would have seen that they have sections that specifically approach helping people do that.

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But, hey, it's the internet innit.
 

DjVortex

DjVortex
Helmut Grokenberger said:
I would still advise you to get familiar with the ins and outs of combat fighting human NPCs before taking on Thargoids
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I suppose taking combat missions is an easier way to start with combat.

Five Guardian shard cannons to the face, and those npc pirates didn't even know what hit them.
 

DjVortex

DjVortex
Well, now I need genuine help, because I don't know what to so here. I have this kind of mission:

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I have no idea how to find those. I have scanned the nav beacon, I have used the FSS to scan everything there is to scan, but I can't find anything. (Normally mission targets are colored orange instead of the normal blue, but there's nothing.)

That 1/9 is because I got interdicted by one of those targets. But that's it. I can't find any more of them. I have been flying around and scanning for like an hour, and nothing. No targets, no interdictions, nothing. I even have gone to a couple of "weapons fire" targets, but nothing, none of the npcs there were mission targets.
 

Untilting

Untilting
oblivionmanman 2476 said:
strange, normaly do a fss scan of system,check uss signals,it should show as a mission target,they will be there somewhere,hope you find them/07
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Agreed, what signal sources are there after you've scanned the nav beacon and gone back into SC? Can you put up a screenshot?

IIRC there should be a mission signal, when you drop out of SC there'd be a transport and maybe an escort ship or two.
 

oblivionmanman 2476

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as soon as i drop ito a system i run a scan drop to zero throttle and search around watching the little arrow indicators,you should get a different colour as a indication of the mission uss,home in on that and target,sry is i expect you prob.know that.but its what i do. i never bother with the nav beacon,my screen shots dont work so cant help you that way, good luck to you.
 

DjVortex

DjVortex
I FSS'd every single signal source again and again, I tried logging out and logging back in, I tried even closing the entire game and launching it again, I went to like half dozen "gunfire" signals, some other signals with a thread level larger than 0, and I even partially defended some space installation against npc raiders.

Nothing. I got like a doze bounties, but none from that mission.

I have absolutely no idea what should have been done there.
 

Fnord Velkor

Fnord Velkor
DjVortex said:
I FSS'd every single signal source again and again, I tried logging out and logging back in, I tried even closing the entire game and launching it again, I went to like half dozen "gunfire" signals, some other signals with a thread level larger than 0, and I even partially defended some space installation against npc raiders.

Nothing. I got like a doze bounties, but none from that mission.

I have absolutely no idea what should have been done there.
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Since it says "eliminate 9 PRISONERS" then wouldn't the prisoners be in a ship, not flying the ship but passengers. I have never seen an "eliminate prisoners" mission so can't offer anything else. Be interesting to hear how this works out.
 
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