Huge decline in console player numbers, Hull Seals consider disclaimer & drop support.

Yes, I never said that. In fact, I said exactly the opposite ("It doesn't mean anything").

Nope, they are related just to the Steam playerbase, because it's only the Steam stats. Although it may somehow reflect the entire playerbase, it may also be entirely wrong and very misleading. There is probably safe to assume the entire playerbase has declined recently, but exactly how much can be hardly reliably decided by the Steam stats, because it's just a minor portion of the entire playerbase.

I never said otherwise. ;)

Yes, as I said above, there seems to be safe to say the numbers are lower in general, but how much are lower is a pure speculation.

Absolutely irrelevant, an incorrect number and also a wrong assumption.

Yes, it will. But as I wrote before, it means nothing in a relation to the game playerbase stats. So I am not sure what you have actually tried to prove. ;)

Addendum: I took another quick look to the stats to filter out just the known active players on Inara (and by the "known active players" I mean just those users that imported their journals, so they were in the game. The entire userbase is bigger than that, of course). The results - close to 5% increase of the console players percentage in comparison to PC player numbers. It also worth to be added that my sample pool is much bigger than the Steam charts sample. Yet, I do not make any conclusions on that - as I said, it doesn't mean anything.

Mate I never said you claimed anything. I didn't drag you into this. In fact, prior to this, I had no clue who you were or what you did. (Inara is a fine bot of work btw, kudos!)

I claimed using Inara figures was inaccurate in this conversation, Someone else claimed they were representative, wrongly.
 
As is referenced here: https://hullseals.space/knowledge/books/important-information/page/on-the-future-of-the-seals
and here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/no-plans-to-port-elite-dangerous-to-ps5.552968/page-90

And here from Fuel Rats: View attachment 252554

PlayStation is hit largest. I believe this is largely due the fact that there is no clear indication of when Odyssey will be available, coupled with Frontier not implementing 4K support for ED on the PS5 (now the only platform without a 4K option).

Frontier need to do something to revive the console player-base, and fast.

o7

Edit: Individuals purporting to speak on behalf of the Fuel Rats have stated further on in the thread that they have no plans to drop support for console players. Good news!
Cross-play would fix this issue...
 
As a few people have suggested a self seeding prophecy if you take note of this thread from a while back. Would hazard a guess now that the decline mentioned is even more substantial as of recent news and handling.....
 
Don’t be sarcastic, these guys are really helpful and work across all platforms.

edit unless I misunderstood, apologies if I did mods
I wasn't being sarcastic. They are literally staying behind to help a playerbase that will only dwindle more and more.

People like this are the genuine in game super heroes.

Maybe you should take a lesson from them though, and learn how to be helpful instead of just randomly attacking people for no reason.
 
I wasn't being sarcastic. They are literally staying behind to help a playerbase that will only dwindle more and more.

People like this are the genuine in game super heroes.

Maybe you should take a lesson from them though, and learn how to be helpful instead of just randomly attacking people for no reason.

Well that is why I added the caveat to my post - in case I had misinterpreted what you wrote. Surely you know how easy it is to misunderstand a post as it is just text?

Implying that I go round simply attacking people because I am somehow a sociopath, is a very serious allegation to make - especially in lieu of your tone, the scope for misunderstanding, and the caveat I added.

The hull seal guys are legendary, and I have huge respect for them. But that wasn't any relevance to what I wrote. It's not like I came here to just try and offend you, as this is not a junior school playground.

If I upset you, I am very sorry indeed, as I am the opposite of what you suggest in reality. I'm quite upset by your allegation really, but I'm not going to throw insults back at you as it is inappropriate.

I am sorry you were offended, but if it makes you feel better, you have upset me with your words.
 
Well that is why I added the caveat to my post -
One of the rules for this forum is to not go off topic. If you have something to say please PM me instead of derailing the topic. Thank you.
I think that has nothing to do with the health of the community. Don't forget that it is cheaper to play in Solo on consoles.

:D S
I've always wondered what the ratio was for each mode.

I've honestly always appreciated CG's for that very reason, seeing tons of people in open and fighting them in CZ's.
 
One of the rules for this forum is to not go off topic. If you have something to say please PM me instead of derailing the topic. Thank you.

Huh? Adding that a comment may have been a misunderstanding, is not really offtopic. But you are certainly taking this that way.

I really don't understand why you are having a go at me?
 
Some consolistas are extremely thin-skinned at the moment. It's no wonder that such an attractive elephant like you gets into trouble from time to time, especially since the forum is teeming with porcelain shops at the moment. I know you mean well, but with the current mood there's not much you can do, except be wrong... 🐘

Thanks mate - I just feel like someone's whipping boy in this situation, and not in a good way!

I guess if I give them a way to vent their pent up frustrations, whatever sort they might be, then it's for the best in the end! ;)
 
I have read some messages and a lot of news about it.

I would like to ask you the following question:

Don't console gamers think that ED is outdated, with problems to advance in its development, unable to receive graphical improvements among others, because consoles don't have the potential that a PC offers?

I don't think that despite being bad news, thinking about the future it could be a good thing? I say a good thing because by focusing the development only on PC they will be able to add and improve many aspects without worrying about the low performance offered by a console compared to a current pc.

I don't want to mention the other game, but just imagining everything we have in ED with some graphical aspects of the competition, we would have ED for 10 more years.
 
I have read some messages and a lot of news about it.

I would like to ask you the following question:

Don't console gamers think that ED is outdated, with problems to advance in its development, unable to receive graphical improvements among others, because consoles don't have the potential that a PC offers?

I don't think that despite being bad news, thinking about the future it could be a good thing? I say a good thing because by focusing the development only on PC they will be able to add and improve many aspects without worrying about the low performance offered by a console compared to a current pc.

I don't want to mention the other game, but just imagining everything we have in ED with some graphical aspects of the competition, we would have ED for 10 more years.
Your not wrong!

The issue is they didn't have profile transfers ready/won't promise them!

It's like having a fire alarm but no fire station!
 
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