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A 3 % increase over the previous month? As much as I'd like to champion that as the green shoots of recovery, I wonder how that stacks up against the longer term trend?
Huge decline in console player numbers, Hull Seals consider disclaimer & drop support.
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A 3 % increase over the previous month? As much as I'd like to champion that as the green shoots of recovery, I wonder how that stacks up against the longer term trend?
You said you wanted to be objective, and use as many data sets as were available to you.
Not including Inara data because it disagrees with your opinions would be bias.
People other than moderators are unable to ask for civility or focus on the topic rather than insulting people?
Let's include it then as evidence "Against" a drop in console player numbers, and see if we can find any other correlating data? Recap:
Are Console player numbers declining?
For
- Anecdotal evidence from various communities - some of those I'm part of, some I'm not - are that console CMDR numbers are significantly down at the moment.
- Statistical evidence from various third party upload tools show a marked decline in the number of console CMDRs uploading data, and by assumption, also playing Elite Dangerous at the same time. Source: EDDN.
- A lack of a clear roadmap or release date for Odyssey on console from the developer.
- Statistical and anecdotal evidence from larger player groups such as The Hull Seals and The Fuel Rats (Source: links in OP) appear to show a steady drop in console CMDR numbers.
- Hull Seals adding a disclaimer around recovery time for console players. Again suggesting a drop in player numbers.
- a 3% increase in console players logging in to Inara in July, compared to the previous month of June.
It would seem so, yes.
For sure. I'd honestly argue they should probably cut the strings on the legacy platforms anyway and focus ahead if they intend to continue supporting consoles. I don't say that from any distain for the console player but I don't love mechanics and other design choices chained to those hardware platforms.
Inara... Must be legit..
Steam Charts however shows the game absolutely tanking....
It's not a case of selective bias, it's a case of object analysis.. Until Steam figures show an at least comparative equality to pre-Odyssey, this game needs serious intravenious care. My opinion obviously..
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If you want Inara to be more (or less) legit than you think it already is (or isn't), then make your suggestions to Artie - the developer of the website o7
You sound like my prison release officer.First rule of moderator club, if you ask to be a moderator you are instantly disqualified from being a moderator. Who would want to be? Seriously?
I am playing less on my PS5 with ED than I was so my statistic proves I am playing less as a console commander.
She said I would never be anything but the Cmdr who failed everyone.
You know what I said to her?
Blah, blah, blah?
Still got a spaceship and a Onionhead problem.
Or better still, make up your own stats and then backtrack!
Im more concerned with the steady decline in the sales of lion bars.
At least I know where I stand with the lion!
Im more concerned with the steady decline in the sales of lion bars.
At least I know where I stand with the lion!
Lets not mix up toffee, wafer with hazelnuts and nougat now, situations complex enough.Or better still, make up your own stats and then backtrack!
Im more concerned with the steady decline in the sales of lion bars.
At least I know where I stand with the lion!
Why should I? I have no care for Inara or it's developers, or indeed what it selects to publish.
Just because some site (I'll agree is a great support to the game) selects to publish their login details, does not in any way infer those figures hold any shred of legitimacy.
And all this while a major seller of the game is showing a complete tank. This kind of rationale holds no credibility.
Yes, they /can/. But if you argue that a similar percentage of console users use EDDN updating tools on a regular basis, matching the percentage of PC users that are likely to use them - I'd ask you to consider whether it is a reasonable assumption. Do you think a significant number of non-PC users playing on console are going to be running their browser on their mobile device to update EDDN?
I don't think that's an assumption that can validly be made to back EDDN being authorative to player numbers.
Yes, FDEV should cancel everyone's summer and spread a much more virulent strain of covid, to get everyone back inside at their consoles again.
Numbers are down for everything online. People are getting out of their computer chairs and off their couches for the first time in nearly 2 years and doing stuff in person with friends. This is not by any means surprising or indicative of anything, other than everyone was sick of being stuck at home and missed their friends.
No.
As I've already said: the 'type' of player on console using any type of journal upload client is more likely to be the dedicated player as opposed to the casual.
I think that gives a fair indication of volume though: casual players are much more likely to dip in and out infrequently, whereas dedicated console players are more likely to run an upload client of some form consistently.
Therefore any decline in that volume is indicative of a trend amongst dedicated Elite players on console.
Seriously folks. This isn't rocket science. If the reason for the drop is "summertime" is it consistent with other summers?
AND you have to look at all the data points and understand the weakness or gap in each data set and then as a whole. So by the time you have accounted for all the gaps you can confidently say. "Something's happening" which is pretty bland. So people don't say that. They go waaaay out on a limb and over state their position.
statistics don't lie, people do. Pointing to them with a lack of understanding of the gaps in the data sets, ignoring them, or consciously leaving them out to make your point is the problem.
So, given the major gaps in all the data sets, it should still be pretty easy to see of there are drops during summer. I'm not looking it up because I don't care, but this should be easy to figure out.
AND you have to look at all the data points and understand the weakness or gap in each data set and then as a whole. So by the time you have accounted for all the gaps you can confidently say. "Something's happening" which is pretty bland. So people don't say that. They go waaaay out on a limb and over state their position.
statistics don't lie, people do. Pointing to them with a lack of understanding of the gaps in the data sets, ignoring them, or consciously leaving them out to make your point is the problem.
So, given the major gaps in all the data sets, it should still be pretty easy to see of there are drops during summer. I'm not looking it up because I don't care, but this should be easy to figure out.
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And again, not to mention that many, many people, such as myself, are sick of video games after 2020/21, and taking this opportunity to live our lives again.
Play video games or meet people for fun times?
Hmm, such a difficult decision... I think not. Video games, adios! I won't miss them.
Yup, not only should have it been the first thing to pop into anyone's head... as was pointed out by many, myself included, this summer is special. So basically, there is no dataset to support what happens after a 2 year lockdown is lifted right at the beginning of summer. Although, as anyone that has gamed for more than 6 months knows, all games go light on players in the summer anyways... and attempting to prove a doom and gloom prediction by using light summer usage statistics for anything but: "people get off their consoles/computers in the summer and go outside", is just silly.