I give up. Dev's should lock the game for more development....

[Guitarmike47]

I fail to see how "locking" the game would in any way accomplish anything useful. How would it help the development process? It would just off people like me who are enjoying the game as it is and looking forward to bug fixes and improvements that will make it even better. For me, right now, the enjoyable aspects of the game far outweigh the flaws. If you don't want to play the game until it reaches a certain (subjective) level of quality, then don't play it. But absent a justification of how locking the game could somehow improve or speed up its development, why should the rest of us not be able to play the game in its current state?

 

[Jacob1989]

As I said, albeit unwittingly when you stated "It is true that some people prob can't keep up" you supported my presumption. You may not have fully supported my presumption but you did support it even if only in part or to a point. It simply is what is.

Using the phrase "most people" is a declarative statement. By using that phrase in the manner in which you wrote it you are indicating that you are stating a matter of fact. You used no disclaimers such as the word 'presumably' or 'I suspect' or even 'there is evidence that suggests'. Unlike using the word "presumably" there is no built in uncertainty when one declares "most people"! Therefore, the phrase "most people" is much more shallow than using the word "presumably".

Since the claim "most people" is being thrown around left and right by those who believe the speed of the game is too fast it is fair to counter that claim and to demonstrate how that claim is false or that it is inaccurate or that it can't possibly be proven and that that claim lacks justification. Let's look at the numbers that we know.

There are currently about 223,575 registered members in the Frontier forums. Of that number we don't know how many own or play Planet Zoo but we can get a rough idea by looking at the Steam Charts for the game.

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By looking at those numbers we can ascertain that there are more than 38,457 people who own and who have played the game. Within the last 24 hours there were 11,631 players who played Planet Zoo. In the last 15 minutes or so there were 6,420 people actively playing Planet Zoo.

For the claim "most players" to be true then more than 19, 613 players must agree that the the speed of the game is too fast. Even if those players only play occasionally they are part of the player base and their voices and opinions count too.

Let's say you only want to count those who played recently (within the last 24 hours). There would still need to be 5,932 players who agree the speed of the game is too fast for the argument "most people" to be true.

For the sake of the argument of those who were playing the game within the 11 minutes of the time I took that screenshot 3,274 of them would need to agree the speed of the game is too fast for the argument "most people" to be true.

The argument in support of the "most people" claims in these forums point to a select few threads. Such as the following:



If you follow that link and look at how many people clicked the "like" button you should find that a mere 66 people, or less than 1% of the aforementioned necessary people required to justify the claim "most people", actually "liked" that posters contention. Ironically even they claimed "most people" want something.

What we can ascertain and presume from these facts is that the claim "most people" is not remotely close to being true and that it is being used as a false positive for the purpose of convincing the naive and easily persuadable to join a cause. It is misleading people into believing that "most people" agree with something, an argument, that has no basis nor foundation to support the claim. There simply is no evidence whatsoever that supports the claims that "most people" want a slower speed to the game. The fact that most people have not commented at all is a greater indicator that "most people" don't care or they don't mind the speed of the game as it currently is.

Maximus, you don't need to prove how many people want the game to slow down out of the people who are on the forums or playing the game. You are trying to prove something I already know and acknowledge. This is where you fail to understand what I was referring to. I never said the majority of the player base wants the game slowed down and because of this reason. What I said was, the majority of people who want the game slowed down in the threads talking about the speed of the game (and only those people) want the game to slow down for bonding/enjoyment reasons. I never extrapolated that statistic to the entire player base. Nobody can. I said I'm taking their word for it (for the claim they make - that it is for enjoyment reasons and not being able to keep up with the speed, true or not) out of the pool of people who responded to the said threads and want the game slowed down. That's where my "most people" observation applies and its not a claim, you can go count it and weigh it against the ones who said they can't keep up with the speed of the game.

If you want to continue to discuss you can DM me or take this to another thread specifically about this topic, let's not clutter the OP's thread with this anymore.

 

[NL_Mutso]

That would be me. I don't mind. And I let Frontier decide. I only think people should stop describing it as a bug or glitch.

The only thing I worry for, is that a decrease in speed might also make the game easier.

Also me

Same reason, I get the slowing down for bonding/enjoyment but some wanted it too slow down because they are unable to manage the zoo. And blame speed for it.. When/if they slow down, they blame other features.
I believe they are stuck in ZT2 mode and were expecting an updated version of that game.

Ontopic:
Sometimes the game is great and sometimes frustrating. When i repeatedly have to click a certain button (release/move/sell), that's frustrating for me.
Locking the game is too late, I wished they postponed the release 1or2 months.

After the update 1.03 I just didn't bother with the panda challenge anymore.. Most likely lost my main zoo right before the update and losing progress is not fun. I'm glad we have CC, so I'm able to get animals fast in a new zoo. But researching everything again.... I researched a lot in that zoo...

I feel sorry for people who have to deal with constant crashing.. Could be something you did, the game doesn't allow it but your save is right before a crash.. That's bad luck and really bad motivation if you are already struggling with the game mechanics/finances/features.

 

[MaximusSC]

For the record in regards to your "most people" reference I have not seen you acknowledge nor express that you know. In fact your exact words were:

That is a very shallow assumption. For instance I can play the game at x3 the speed all the way from scratch even when starting a new zoo, but there is no fun in that. Can't and don't want to are two different things. Most people just want to relax and enjoy the animals. It is true that some people prob can't keep up but generalizing such a thing is just wrong.

Since those who claim they want the game slowed down also state, quite often, they "want to enjoy the animals" as their reasons for wanting the game to be slowed down it was only logical to presume that your words referenced theirs. Which in another comment of yours you unequivocally stated the exact same thing:

I didn't support your presumption. I just said there would ofc be people in any given population of people having difficulty keeping up but that shouldn't make us generalize it by saying that would be the reason behind every suggestion to slow the game.

As for why I said "most people", that wasn't my presumption either. I'm taking their word for it, true or not. People who want the game slowed down in threads about this topic usually stress out the fact that they can't bond with/enjoy their animals with the current speed of the game.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want the game to be slowed down like some of the extreme suggestions in those threads. That would make the game much worse than it is now.

So forgive me for not understanding that you meant to iterate "majority of people who want the game slowed down in the threads talking about the speed of the game (and only those people) want the game to slow down for bonding/enjoyment reasons." That was not made clear in your earlier comments.

Also, I do understand that you don't feel the game needs slowed down as you stated such (highlighted in red above).

In regards to my earlier post where I provided the numbers I did so not so much for you but rather for all those who profess to know what 'most people' want or don't want in the game. Those numbers prove the claims what 'most people' want as being 100% and genuinely wrong. Forgive me if I didn't make that clear enough?

 

[HeatherG]

If you would like to discuss the speed of the game you can do so on the thread below. Please keep the thread on the original topic. Thanks!

Please slow down the time speed of the game.

This has been a major issue to a lot of us during our gameplays of the beta, and now of the full game. As of now, the time speed is still 3 days per second. According to surveys, most players want around 10 seconds per day, with some wanting more. Animal lifespans can't be extended much without...

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