I just combat logged :)

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Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
CMDR Beni Stingray said:
Isnt that awesome, in the first 5 posts of this thread are 2 people openly admitting to break the TOS and cheat. Thats how ing bad it is!
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In case you referring to me, exiting via the menu is absolutely not against the TOS. It is pretty poor form against a cmdr, and IMHO the timer should be increased, but I am sure the NPC's feelings wont be hurt and it isn't my fault a cobra NPC cant kill me fast enough. :p
 

Phisto Sobanii

Phisto Sobanii
Hermione Granger said:
So you got hit with scramble spectrum and combat logged... lol
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Cmdr ST4R F0X said:
you ran out of fuel you absolute tool XD
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CMDR Beni Stingray said:
Isnt that awesome, in the first 5 posts of this thread are 2 people openly admitting to break the TOS and cheat. Thats how ing bad it is!
Youre both reported!
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Since reading his whole post proved difficult for you three I've gone ahead and taken the liberty of highlighting this part:

Ian Skippy said:
So here is the deal: I don't care about the insurance, I do care about about the NPC crewmember. If I messed up somehow and everything is as it should be I'll let the oxygen run out and that'll be that.
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Skippy panicked and made a choice some would consider a mistake. I suspect he will own up to it if he should. The fact he posted here in such detail proves that.

EDIT: I see it was a menu log, yeah?
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Phisto Sobanii said:
Skippy panicked and made a mistake. I suspect he will own up to it if he should. The fact he posted here in such detail proves that.
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Absolutely. If this turns out to be my mistake I'll let my NPC member die (and if people want I can even figure out how to videorecord it and make it a popcorn event. :) )

I'm tempted to show this to support though. I just noticed I have two logs, and together they make more sense. The three refuels I mentioned are indeed station refuels, not jump usage. The logs mention the stations, the docking access granted etc. The final close is at

{ "timestamp":"2019-06-12T19:32:51Z", "event":"Shutdown" }

That gives me about 13 minutes after the final proven refuel. Aux goes from main, but main never goes from aux AFAIK.
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Voidedius said:
When you refuel, it only refuels the main tank.Your aux tanks only refuels from the main tank.
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Lol, what? Is that true? Refuel all actually refuels not all? I never noticed that in thousands of hours, but it would get us closer to an explanation (and it does sound like how an FD interface works ;) )! And if so, I'll ask if that is intended and just a misnomer, or a half-a-decade long bug. :p
 

Lightspeed

Lightspeed
Funny this, because I remember requesting in another thread quite some time ago, for a fuel igniter bomb ...... limpet drains your fuel and an igniter bomb ignites it !
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Factabulous said:
Reserve Tank Sizes: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/reserve-tank-sizes-for-all-ships.460434/

Then (when you get fuel) it will show your burn / hour, so you will know how long you had For instance my Cobra has 0.49T reserve, and at 0.88/h that means I have 60 * 0.49 / 0.88 minutes on reserve = 35 mins. Which looks about right as I watch it :)
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Factabulous said:
Just tried it - reserves are replenished on refuelling
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Thanks. These two plus my logs confirm it is a bug. I quite 12 min or so after refueling (which the logs show I didn;t forget), and the shields went down at least 90s before that. There is no way my topped up auxs were drained in +-10 minutes, it isn't even possible to design any outfitting that does it.

Sending it to support, and unless they have a great story I'll call the rats. Will keep you all posted on what support says, thanks for thinking along everybody!
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Phisto Sobanii said:
EDIT: I see it was a menu log, yeah?
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Yeah. No need for actual cheating against a cobra NPC, and fumbling about in the task manager in VR isn't exactly efficient either. :p

{ "timestamp":"2019-06-12T19:31:14Z", "event":"Statistics", "Bank_Account":{ "Current_Wealth":1696455023, "Spent_On_Ships":1616824239, "Spent_On_Outfitting":5502537918, "Spent_On_Repairs":15904519, "Spent_On_Fuel":1078474, "Spent_On_Ammo_Consumables":11350320, "Insurance_Claims":62, "Spent_On_Insurance":83224685, "Owned_Ship_Count":35 }, "Combat":{ "Bounties_Claimed":8597, "Bounty_Hunting_Profit":252087523.75, "Combat_Bonds":1383, "Combat_Bond_Profits":28278850, "Assassinations":320, "Assassination_Profits":142858236, "Highest_Single_Reward":630241, "Skimmers_Killed":347 }, "Crime":{ "Notoriety":0, "Fines":531, "Total_Fines":2001341, "Bounties_Received":1096, "Total_Bounties":2006428, "Highest_Bounty":18308 }, "Smuggling":{ "Black_Markets_Traded_With":61, "Black_Markets_Profits":15407224, "Resources_Smuggled":870, "Average_Profit":71329.740740741, "Highest_Single_Transaction":8012280 }, "Trading":{ "Markets_Traded_With":258, "Market_Profits":36973280, "Resources_Traded":35388, "Average_Profit":51566.638772664, "Highest_Single_Transaction":2929280 }, "Mining":{ "Mining_Profits":5633522, "Quantity_Mined":844, "Materials_Collected":12895 }, "Exploration":{ "Systems_Visited":12955, "Exploration_Profits":589854856, "Planets_Scanned_To_Level_2":11725, "Planets_Scanned_To_Level_3":44642, "Efficient_Scans":273, "Highest_Payout":15838202, "Total_Hyperspace_Distance":451703, "Total_Hyperspace_Jumps":20364, "Greatest_Distance_From_Start":23051.633097037, "Time_Played":9833580 }, "Passengers":{ "Passengers_Missions_Accepted":187, "Passengers_Missions_Disgruntled":21, "Passengers_Missions_Bulk":627, "Passengers_Missions_VIP":528, "Passengers_Missions_Delivered":1155, "Passengers_Missions_Ejected":36 }, "Search_And_Rescue":{ "SearchRescue_Traded":54, "SearchRescue_Profit":685620, "SearchRescue_Count":32 }, "TG_ENCOUNTERS":{ "TG_ENCOUNTER_WAKES":11, "TG_ENCOUNTER_TOTAL":15, "TG_ENCOUNTER_TOTAL_LAST_SYSTEM":"Pleiades Sector MN-T c3-12", "TG_ENCOUNTER_TOTAL_LAST_TIMESTAMP":"3304-07-07 22:06", "TG_ENCOUNTER_TOTAL_LAST_SHIP":"Federal Corvette", "TG_SCOUT_COUNT":15 }, "Crafting":{ "Count_Of_Used_Engineers":21, "Recipes_Generated":2057, "Recipes_Generated_Rank_1":410, "Recipes_Generated_Rank_2":262, "Recipes_Generated_Rank_3":441, "Recipes_Generated_Rank_4":430, "Recipes_Generated_Rank_5":514 }, "Crew":{ "NpcCrew_TotalWages":197038113, "NpcCrew_Hired":8, "NpcCrew_Fired":4, "NpcCrew_Died":2 }, "Multicrew":{ "Multicrew_Time_Total":66189, "Multicrew_Gunner_Time_Total":745, "Multicrew_Fighter_Time_Total":19294, "Multicrew_Credits_Total":4765608, "Multicrew_Fines_Total":1654731 }, "Material_Trader_Stats":{ "Trades_Completed":123, "Materials_Traded":3179, "Encoded_Materials_Traded":710, "Raw_Materials_Traded":652, "Grade_1_Materials_Traded":1218, "Grade_2_Materials_Traded":760, "Grade_3_Materials_Traded":525, "Grade_4_Materials_Traded":462, "Grade_5_Materials_Traded":214 }, "CQC":{ "CQC_Credits_Earned":26676, "CQC_Time_Played":11700, "CQC_KD":1.24, "CQC_Kills":93, "CQC_WL":0.41176470588235 } }

{ "timestamp":"2019-06-12T19:31:16Z", "event":"Cargo", "Vessel":"Ship", "Count":0, "Inventory":[ ] }
{ "timestamp":"2019-06-12T19:31:19Z", "event":"ModuleInfo" }
{ "timestamp":"2019-06-12T19:32:51Z", "event":"Shutdown" }
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A clean exit to menu followed by quiting to desktop.
 
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Phisto Sobanii

Phisto Sobanii
CMDR Beni Stingray said:
Phisto defending logging, no matter the circumstances, i wouldnt believe it if i hadnt seen it with my own eyes!
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Defending logging? Give me a break. Skippy said himself he'd eat the rebuy if it turns out it was a mistake. What combat logger does that?

In any case, the old school "zero tolerance" approach to logging never worked and you know it. Grow up and use your head.
 

nighthawk_black

nighthawk_black
Combat logging is utterly despicable behavior. Elite is not an easy game to master and forces you to learn the mechanics, or suffer the consequences. Take your rebuy like a man next time and actually learn something from the loss, rather than coming to the forums and asking for an education of questionable reliability.
 

Phisto Sobanii

Phisto Sobanii
nighthawk_black said:
Combat logging is utterly despicable behavior. Elite is not an easy game to master and forces you to learn the mechanics, or suffer the consequences. Take your rebuy like a man next time and actually learn something from the loss, rather than coming to the forums and asking for an education of questionable reliability.
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Here's a thought or two for you fans of the inquisition style.

He sends a ticket to support and finds out he suffered a bug. FDEV refuels his ship and he's good to go.

He sends a ticket to support and finds out he messed up and takes the rebuy including the death of his pilot. Heck, if you're still in Colonia Skippy, I'll pull the trigger myself and record it if you're cool with that.

If y'all ain't good with either of these outcomes you're full of it. Full stop.
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Phisto Sobanii said:
Heck, if you're still in Colonia Skippy, I'll pull the trigger myself and record it if you're cool with that.
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Still there, and I expect FD to respond before the weekend. I'll send you their response either way, and if it ain't a bug it'll be my honour to have you do the honours this weekend. :)

And if not we can still do something similar, but I'll then use my DBS insteaf and actively try not to die.
 
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