I need an explanation

LumpTheNoLeggedDog · May 10, 2022

Many of you may not care but something terrible is happening with Elite Dangerous MMO (BGS).
Since content about Sirius befriending Alliance which brought Sirius inside Old Worlds, we Old Worlds freedom fighters are at war with Sirius to oust them. After loosing in Reorte Sirius was moved to Leesti under smoke cover.
I will keep it short, we fought with Sirius in Leesti for around 2-3 months now, we almost retreat them but with magical powers they have, they managed to stay. Sirius had no asset because they lost every single war. Just few days ago we won another war against Sirius and yesterday magically Sirius acquired 3 settlements. I want to know HOW Sirius acquired 3 settlements overnight ???
If there are rules of MMO, Fdevs should be disallowed to change or manipulate MMO. Most MMO games and their respectful companys have rules against that.
I want to know where Frontiers stand is on their employees manipulating the BGS ???
@David Braben

HappyMoonMonkey · May 10, 2022

Were they Odyssey settlements? As I understand it, these change hands in wars according to the balance of wins in that particular settlement, regardless of the outcome of the war.

Rubbernuke · May 10, 2022

LumpTheNoLeggedDog · May 10, 2022

HappyMoonMonkey said:
Were they Odyssey settlements? As I understand it, these change hands in wars according to the balance of wins in that particular settlement, regardless of the outcome of the war.

War they lost just days ago was for control of 1, not all or 3 and they lost 4-1. I think what your saying apply to Civil War.

Fixitman · May 10, 2022

OP: You seem to be assuming that employees are manipulating the BGS. It's most likely just another bug. Submit a support ticket if you want answers. Continue to post about it instead if you only want conjecture.

ubermick · May 10, 2022

LumpTheNoLeggedDog said:
War they lost just days ago was for control of 1, not all or 3 and they lost 4-1.

Doesn't matter. Control of Odyssey settlements happens independently of war. When war happens between two factions, each faction will have a starport "at risk" (if they control a starport), but also Odyssey settlements can be fought over individually. We've helped a few anarchy factions do that of late, to stop them getting constantly slaughtered by players farming their settlements - get them into war, win the war, but at the same time lost CZs in each of their controlled settlements. Anarchy faction still wins the war, but no longer control those settlements.

Northpin · May 10, 2022

Fixitman said:
OP: You seem to be assuming that employees are manipulating the BGS. It's most likely just another bug. Submit a support ticket if you want answers. Continue to post about it instead if you only want conjecture.

That might be the case if the manipulation is due to the current narative.
If so, it is unfortunate for the players supporting the Old Worlds

Bottom Hat · May 10, 2022

I understand your pain, but I'm not sure you can do much about a scripted narrative written a long time ago. And are you sure this is 3 existing bases, or did they add them due to you winning the war?

Just spitballing.

CMDR The Riz · May 10, 2022

LumpTheNoLeggedDog said:
War they lost just days ago was for control of 1, not all or 3 and they lost 4-1. I think what your saying apply to Civil War.

Ownership of Odyssey Settlements is determined separately from the primary target in a War / Civil War state and is based on the relative number of wins each side has at each individual location.

Lol, ninja'd by ubermick above

Robert Maynard · May 10, 2022

There's a Sirius Corporation controlled Megaship in Leesti - which suggests that Sirius Corporation cannot be removed from Leesti.

Riverside · May 10, 2022

I don't think the dungeon master should manipulate the player pieces on the board (if they are), but I also think any player group staking a claim on 'famous' landmarks should probably accept they won't be allowed to do as they please without interference.

As long as Reidquat is eventually returned to anarchy I don't have any firm opinions on the old world's.

LumpTheNoLeggedDog · May 10, 2022

Fixitman said:
OP: You seem to be assuming that employees are manipulating the BGS. It's most likely just another bug. Submit a support ticket if you want answers. Continue to post about it instead if you only want conjecture.

lol..your funny. Issue trucker ? really ? issue trucker have an issue. Issue Tracker shouldn't need other people to replicate a problem. Every single issue should be take look at and responded appropriately.

LumpTheNoLeggedDog · May 10, 2022

Robert Maynard said:
There's a Sirius Corporation controlled Megaship in Leesti - which suggests that Sirius Corporation cannot be removed from Leesti.

That is not the problem, problem is how they obtained 3 settlements overnight.

Mr T · May 10, 2022

Isn't Sirius also used for engineer unlocks? Perhaps that has something to do with it?

Northpin · May 10, 2022

LumpTheNoLeggedDog said:
That is not the problem, problem is how they obtained 3 settlements overnight.

That was already explained.
Twice.

HappyMoonMonkey · May 10, 2022

LumpTheNoLeggedDog said:
War they lost just days ago was for control of 1, not all or 3 and they lost 4-1. I think what your saying apply to Civil War.

Yes, you fight the war for control of the horizons settlement stated in the war. But if there are skirmishes in Odyssey settlements then these change hands according to the balance of wins in that particular settlement. Wins in Odyssey settlements are not stated in the war briefing papers in station. You just find out at the end when they change hands. So if Odyssey settlements fell into Sirius hands that would indicate that there were CMDRs fighting for Sirius in those settlements.

Robert Maynard · May 10, 2022

Mr T said:
Isn't Sirius also used for engineer unlocks? Perhaps that has something to do with it?

Access to Sirius requires a permit issued by Sirius Corporation.

LumpTheNoLeggedDog · May 10, 2022

Before you all go ballistic on me. My point is simple.
I want to know where Frontier stand is on their employee manipulating BGS.
If Frontier official (not a volunteer moderator (no disrespect) ) will say it is allowed. I'm all good. I will know now to stop BGSing Sirius because I know I can't win with Fdevs.

ubermick · May 10, 2022

We're not going ballistic on you mate.

You asked for an explanation as to how Sirius gained control of settlements despite them losing the war 4-1, and a couple of us gave that to you. (the fact that Sirius won a day shows there were CMDRs fighting for them). I mean, I suppose its possible that Frontier developers are intentionally doing stuff behind the scenes to protect the current Azimuth saga narrative, but based on what you told us happened, it sounds perfectly normal?

LumpTheNoLeggedDog · May 10, 2022

ubermick said:
Doesn't matter. Control of Odyssey settlements happens independently of war. When war happens between two factions, each faction will have a starport "at risk" (if they control a starport), but also Odyssey settlements can be fought over individually. We've helped a few anarchy factions do that of late, to stop them getting constantly slaughtered by players farming their settlements - get them into war, win the war, but at the same time lost CZs in each of their controlled settlements. Anarchy faction still wins the war, but no longer control those settlements.

Regardless of all your info, I really would like to know where Frontiers stand is on employees manipulating BGS.
I want to go deeper in to this rabbet whole and find out, where is that damn rabbit hiding.