General / Off-Topic i want to like this game but i am finding it hard and with s.c dfm coming out today

[Andrew Sayers]

i will have to admit i am a fan boy to s.c just look at it its hard not to be

A bit of a tangent to this thread - the first day with Arena Commander will probably be quite rough, for reasons nothing to do with the inherent quality of the game. CIG's strategy is to get as much content out as possible as soon as possible, which means there's bound to be teething troubles from crashes to balance issues. There will be a diamond hidden in all that rough, so when you see people venting about all the little things, please remember it's just the way things go

 

[Plageis]

Plageis I will also give SC a go but currently there is nothing to see and a simple 3 ship mission mini game isnt much to make any reasonable comparison.

When SC goes beta late 14 or early 15 then we will all have something more substantial than guess work to make comparisons and comments on. Until there is something like a beta any comments are pure speculation.

well we do have vids to go on tho and we can see the graphics they have for the dfm and we have the ships we got and the ones in tngss so there is quite a bit to go on so far

 

[Aleksej]

well we do have vids to go on tho and we can see the graphics they have for the dfm and we have the ships we got and the ones in tngss so there is quite a bit to go on so far

Don't you think that it is possible to say the same about ED?

 

[Plageis]

Here is Friday's update:
"What happens next? The Arena Commander team will be working through the weekend to test this build, and fix any issues as they are found. Next week, we will have another “go/no-go” meeting with the worldwide development teams. Our next update will be on Monday and we will continue to update you on any issues and their impact to the schedule then."

So today they will only decide if it is a go or no-go. Which means that there will be no release today, at least in Europe.

i have read Fridays update ben has posted comments about the go/no go meeting being held this morning saying that if its a go then it will be released and on the dev reddit chat thing it says if its a go the it will take 3 to 5 hours to be ready for download why on earth would they delay it any more and with most of them in Manchester today for the sq 42 thing they are bound to just push the up load button if its a go they dont want to up set us any more i mite be wrong and if its a go and they do delay it then shame on them

 

[Geraldine]

Ok, I asked nicely and it was ignored. So I am now closing this thread pending review by the moderation team.

EDIT: Thread re-opened
I want to make something clear here folks. I do not want to see any more personal comments directed at other forum members in this thread and for it to remain on topic. Otherwise more moderation action may be deemed necessary. Up to and including permanent closure of the thread.

Now on with the discussion.

 

[Nikita]

or tomoz i think this game is going to die a hard death

hi every one now like you i love a good space sim

but this is falling far short of being one for these reasons

1. the sidewinder only has 4 cargo space so trading is to long and boring

2. the only one lazer is just stupid as its never one on one and if it is its always a cobra but most the time its 3 or even 4 on one

3. the graphics are no good at all if you dont believe me look at x3 ap 3.0 and thats 3 years old or s.c dfm, x rebirth, eve vr,

4. the ships in this game are just omg w.t.h is that wheres the imagination they are boring take s.c the ships in that are beautiful they are works of art in this they are just yawn

5. the space stations same as the ships they are boring wheres the imagination are we really getting 100 billion stars of boring ships and boring stations ITS BORING

now i am not saying its all bad i know when you get some good weapons the combat is fun and docking is fun all i am asking is please give me a trading ship and put some imagination into this game interesting ships and stations not the boring stuff we got

Taste is obviously subjective. Personally, I think I am going to enjoy both Elite and SC but for different reasons. Elite for the infinite space to explore......and SC for the high detail that they are aiming for.

As for the looks. I love the graphics of Elite. Considering this is procedurally generated, it is fantastic. Plus, the ships and space station are a glorious throw back to the original game. That is kind of the point you know. To make a new version of the game that still retains the look and feel of the original. Ahhh...the good'ol days. Anyway.....if you don't like it ...don't play it. It's not for everyone.

 

[Memnoch]

Anyway.....if you don't like it ...don't play it. It's not for everyone.

I am not anywhere near as familiar with SC as I am with ED but it often strikes me that, despite their claims, they are aiming for very different demographics. I think that ED is, in the long run, going to be the deeper game, and certainly by a long, long way the larger game when it comes to scale.

It may just be that the OP doesn't want or need this and was hoping for something more bombastic and in that case I suspect that the DFM might be more suited to their needs.

But I would ask that the OP persevere with the game and also appreciate that, as they have already acknowledged, is not a finished product. There will be many more things to do and an almost impossible to comprehend number of places to go. There are parts of the game currently that allow you to do what is in effect death-match in space if that is your thing and co-op too.

@Plageis, whatever you decide, open yourself to the possibilities of something more.

 

[Skizomeuh]

EDIT: Thread re-opened

I shouldn't. And should have been closed right from the beginning IMHO as it's obviously a flaming troll, completely off the topic of Beta Support.

I don't know if I must laugh or be sad for a guy that threw a hundred bucks at a thing he could have known easily it won't satisfy his tastes.

 

[Aleksej]

I shouldn't. And should have been closed right from the beginning IMHO as it's obviously a flaming troll, completely off the topic of Beta Support.

I don't know if I must laugh or be sad for a guy that threw a hundred bucks at a thing he could have known easily it won't satisfy his tastes.

Let's not go into personal abuse. OP can have his opinion on this matter.

 

[Memnoch]

If it is a simple a case of people not realising what they are buying when they go into Premium Beta, is it perhaps a case of Frontier not getting across this idea well enough? Just playing devils advocate here.

 

[Neo-ST]

On topic: dis game iz gona rock, it got lazors and electrolites and stuff
i think it is win

 

[Enride]

OP predicts the failure of ED based on his/her own individual opinions on a early stage betatest.
And also does so by comparison to another game not even released in playable for yet.

This cannot be taken seriously, no matter how much I try.

 

[avow555]

Ah well OP of you go and play SC, ooh that's right that ain't gonna ship till 2016...

 

[Skizomeuh]

And is talking about it on the support section of the forum.

 

[Iskariot]

or tomoz i think this game is going to die a hard death

hi every one now like you i love a good space sim

but this is falling far short of being one for these reasons

1. the sidewinder only has 4 cargo space so trading is to long and boring

2. the only one lazer is just stupid as its never one on one and if it is its always a cobra but most the time its 3 or even 4 on one

3. the graphics are no good at all if you dont believe me look at x3 ap 3.0 and thats 3 years old or s.c dfm, x rebirth, eve vr,

4. the ships in this game are just omg w.t.h is that wheres the imagination they are boring take s.c the ships in that are beautiful they are works of art in this they are just yawn

5. the space stations same as the ships they are boring wheres the imagination are we really getting 100 billion stars of boring ships and boring stations ITS BORING

now i am not saying its all bad i know when you get some good weapons the combat is fun and docking is fun all i am asking is please give me a trading ship and put some imagination into this game interesting ships and stations not the boring stuff we got

This just is not the game for you, because:

a. You do not seem to understand that a beta product is not the finished game.

b. You seem to have no idea what Elite is about and what its design goals are.

c. You apparently have not even tried to inform yourself by reading the design documents and news letters.

d. Because you like the sc ship designs.
Of course tastes differ. Personally I do not like most of the SC designs at all. I find them bordering on the ridiculous with all those wingy flimsy parts sticking out.

e. You seem to prefer ultra shiny bling bling over actual game play. Personally I feel the graphics of ED are great. And do not forget this is still beta. There will be updates.


So I'd like to conclude that obviously SC is the game for you.
I plan to play SC too, but already ED has stolen my heart, while SC leaves me indifferent still. I hope that will improve in the future.

 

[W4rSkuLL]

Beta is beta My first beta though, but well worth it. Ive had hours of fun testing this game so far. And I still havent played much. But its a good spacesim already. And its just going to get better in the long run. We get more star systems to explore. More space stations to dock on, more ships to fly, more hardware and modules to test out. And we still wait for the grouping tool and chat mode in game. Missions will come I guess, reputation, I guess escape pods to? And more variation and random interdictions. We have just gotten a sip of the wine I say give me the bottle. This is going to get better and better. The most annoying now are the bugs, but then we are here to find and report them

 

[Memnoch]

Beta is beta

And Alpha doubly so!

I get the impression that the definition of Beta and what a Beta product is, and what it entails, is perhaps not being factored in to peoples purchasing decisions.

 

[SlackR]

I too am a star citizen "fan boy" but it will take a seriously impressive dogfighting module to prise me out of my sidewinder... I've been playing using the oculus rift and that experience has now become the benchmark for me... I know it's not a competition but ED will take some beating in my eyes...

 

[ioxon]

Huge SC backer here. After buying into ED alpha and getting a chance to play it, I can say I will definitely be playing both games nearly equally. I might favor one over the other for a time here and there but wow. I absolutely love ED almost as much as I'm gung-ho about what SC has potential to be.

OP, this is verging on trolling just to get a rise. I hope that's not the case but I would just take it easy buddy. Enjoy both games since you clearly backed ED as well. Besides, you can't back out of ED now. You're in for good and I'm sure you'll love it just the same. Maybe just don't play beta anymore. Wait until the game is released and then remember there will be expansions of awesomeness coming too!

 

[Celonius]

If you like easy games go to helly kitty. This is hardgaming dude.