See: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/lifetime-expansion-pass-holders-update.462900/
That would be free content in addition to the expansions.
Bobbleheads and paint jobs, can an exclusive battle cruiser be far behind?
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That would be free content in addition to the expansions.
Bobbleheads and paint jobs, can an exclusive battle cruiser be far behind?
But not exclusive.
Free paint jobs and free bobbleheads would be exclusive. (the free part)
I'm going to award myself the win on this one, based on a technicality.
I looked to see if I could buy that membership but it is no longer available.
Bummer that.
Those are the ones who need to attend a University, assemble a portfolio, draft a resumé, and apply for a job so they can show us how much better they can actually do.
I think a huge disconnect comes from the minority who are vocally upset when things change (and I've been of that group) and the majority who're genuinely interested and feel engaged knowing what's going on. I understand why Frontier prefer not to risk upsetting us in this woebegotten social media age, but I feel Frontier have learned the wrong lessons down the years.
I'm not sure anyone has asked for all the information. There's quite a bit of scope between all the information and the present position of none of the information.
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Not giving out any information leads to disenfranchised players who feel they are being ignored by the developer.
I disagree. Frontier with Elite Dangerous has developed lots of contents that had to be reworked again because the community didn't like them or that were simply broken.
Beyond 3.0 is a clear example that big part of Horizons contents were not as good as expected (it's ok, everyone makes mistakes, I'm not blaming anyone here).
Players know the gameplay better than devs and this have been proven many times so FDEV should learn from the errors and change attitude.
I strongly recommend FDEV to create a closed group of experienced players available to collaborate and share information with them to discuss, accept critics and feedbacks before releasing something that is bound to fail or disappoint many. But this must be done when such features are still in work and they can be corrected.
You already did something similar before releasing Beyond 3.3 and I guess you did not regret that so please go for it...
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That's not true. V1 was exactly what it was supposed to be - an up to date Elite. Horizons added what it was supposed to add, planetary landings on non atmospheric planets and moons, with other content to arrive later.
The beyond season wasn't to change things because "the community didnt like them" or because they were "broken", the idea appears to have been to flesh out the existing systems. This isn't -the-game-that-shouldn't-be-mentioned-in-polite-conversation- where money is no object and fools and that money are easily parted, this is a responsible company we are talking about.
And we are in trouble if players drive development.
how is this thread not banned for Necoposting
I said Beyond 3.0 not the complete season.
We do have information. There is another expansion coming next year. It's been said a number of times now. Knowing what it is now or later isn't going to make much of a difference to what the expansion is. So I see no reason to be upset about no knowing is. I find it bizarre.
I believe some features were always supposed to be reworked, regardless of the community reaction. They had a very tight shedule from 0.0 to 2.4 and regardless what people think about the Horizons delay they added a ton of features, improvements and changes. Most stuff wasn't really 'reworked' anyway but expanded.
I hope they'll take community feedback on board when they are ready to do so. I believe it's difficult to find the right time for it though. 1 month before the update gets deployed is probably too late (that's more or less how they've done it so far) but 1 year is probably way too early. Before we can provide meaningful feedback they actually need to design something and create mechanics. Otherwise you'll just end up with 500 people throwing random ideas around, which does more harm than it helps unless you are going to ignore them...
I'd say something like 4 months closed beta testing followed by a 2 months public beta would be a sensible approach. Problem is that it would probably delay the release by 6 months and people are already going crazy about late 2020... Once beta starts, feature implementation should be more or less finished, otherwise it's pretty pointless.
You could of course give people access to insider information way before beta starts so you'll just get feedback on concepts, but I believe this approach is also problematic. First, because at this point the developer isn't 100% sure how and which features will be implemented, changing and cutting stuff at the last minute is pretty much industry standard. Second because you would need to have a detailed overview about basically everything that is planned to be added into the game, current and in the future, otherwise you might not understand why a specific mechanic is implemented.
In the end you would get hundreds of different ideas on stuff that is likely going to change anyway. Two things in game development are easy: Theory-crafting for concepts that you don't need to implement and criticising how concepts have been implemented after the fact. The actual process of making sure that everything gets implemented in a logical and functional way is probably the hardest thing about it. I'd say although we can up with brilliant theoratical suggestions and ideas, Frontier is actually way better at designing a real game.
I believe the shortcomings of the game aren't there because Frontier aren't as good as we are when it comes to design but because developing a game with the scope of ED is actually a difficult task.
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My guess is FDEV are lining up with the next gen console releases. They've always set the required specs at a remarkably low level and with all this new stuff in the pipeline they player base hardware (inc console gamers) needs to move on a generation.
That's true and it isn't just the consoles but the PCs as well.
Braben himself said something along the lines of "even if they could've added atmospheric planets in 2014, technology adoption would not have been ready for it". The game runs on a potato computer and it wouldn't make much sense to release an expansion that can only be run by 20% of the player base.
That's certainly not the only reason (the most important one is probably that it requires time to develop this stuff), but it might be one criteria on how they set their priorities.
you have to remember that brabens ideas have ALWAYS been DECADES ahead of the tech that consumers have access to.
if we are thinking it he has probably already thought about it too, im pretty sure he was living elite for 30 odd years, i dont know if his passion is still there like it was at the beginning but i really think he will make lots of things happen when they can happen.
I see no reason to conclude the game is not being developed, so I'd suggest give them their 2020 update and then comment?
I'll happily wait now until the end of next year to be proved a leopard can change its spots if we finally get some bar raising technically impressive content with some actual impressive and involved gameplay!
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Ok then..we shall reconvene in 2020. I would like to understand how they thought they would deliver carriers last year but then realised (a month or so before scheduled release date), it would actually take another 2 years? Mistakes can happen and deadlines missed. But that's like me saying "yeah, I'll build a house by Xmas" and then realising i've only laid half a dozen bricks by November. Either something went on behind the scenes or a monumental failure of project management occured.
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