Ian Phillips
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And it's 1 ton of HUTTON scrap..... Very rare
[IDEA] What about a community driven "CMDRs to avoid" list..
- Thread starter Silk
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"The Crucible" is a great drama. If you haven't seen it, go read it, you friggen witchhunters. It's even available as movie.
And currently playing on Broadway.
I almost wet myself with laughter...
Anyway... OP probably a bad idea as it's too open to abuse and its highly unlikely the vast majority of players will even use "ze list".
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I do wonder who these guys think they are attempting to set themselves up as some sort of authority over the game. On the one hand they claim to be the good guys but their playstyle (pvp focused) actually requires players to do what they are apparently attempting to discourage. Since if everyone played squeaky clean there would be no one to fight. Derp! I've said this before but something aint right when you have a player groups name written all over the starting area for the game.
I'm rather tempted to turn up at Eravate and give them something to do
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i think you already are : P
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I do wonder who these guys think they are attempting to set themselves up as some sort of authority over the game. On the one hand they claim to be the good guys but their playstyle (pvp focused) actually requires players to do what they are apparently attempting to discourage. Since if everyone played squeaky clean there would be no one to fight. Derp! I've said this before but something aint right when you have a player groups name written all over the starting area for the game.
I'm rather tempted to turn up at Eravate and give them something to do and that almost always involves handing out rebuys and and thank yous for contributing to our ammo refills lol
Fell free to come on over to Eravate and do as you please.. We love things to do lol. To be honest, you're lucky that a group like AA is in the noob space and NOT a criminal organization. The only authority we force on people is keeping griefers and criminals out of out little area of space
Again, this is NOT a witchhunting tool. There are no bounties being issued here. This tool is purely for informational purposes to give people a list of players that are likely to cause them trouble.
This is not a bounty board. Players reporting fair gameplay such as CZs/CG/powerplay/fairplay kills will have their entries deleted.
Who killed you? PM me his name. I HIGHLY doubt that someone from my crew killed you for no reason unless you were wanted for more than a murder charge and even then we'd likely give you a warning.
Kind of a strange mindset right? You got people killing indiscriminately for reddit/forum tears and getting away with it due to loopholes in the game's crime and punishment system and yet people want to protect those players. I would NEVER promote naming and shaming here on the forums, but my tool will be hosted off site and you'll have to look for it in order to see other players names.. It's not like CMDR names are classified or something.
In the context of this list, a criminal is defined by what he does. NO ONE is going to report players for NPC hunting to this form.. It's not what it is for. This list is purely for negative player interaction outside of fairplay (CZ/CGs/powerplay/etc). Fairplay descriptions will get automatically removed from the list.
I think you are starting to believe in your own hype. I couldn't careless who hangs out in the starting area. True it could be deemed counter productive to pwn noobs there but then for their to be heroes there also need to be bandits.
You see it doesn't matter if you are assigning bounties or not. What you are attempting to do is create a 'list' of players for black listing purposes. A passive aggressive instrument that will amount to a bullying tool. Who do you think you are, the Stasi? You are also attempting to enforce upon the game your own standards of play and what you consider 'fair'. I'm afraid so long as its possible without hacking the client or otherwise its all fair play. So if people are playing as the game mechanics allow them its all fair play.
Yet you are wanting to name and shame off the forums. As I said before provided folk aren't cheating or hacking etc anything that goes on in game via the game mechanics available to all players is legit. If you think that should be changed then make a suggestion to Frontier.
I don't think you are in any position to promulgate what is fair play and drawing up a black list of players and publically publishing the names for percieved offences is a pretty shady thing to do and you are going to get yourself into bother if you do such things.
The point here is that this isnt a list for gameplay purposes, such as a bounty board which could lead to some interesting gameplay. Instead the purpose is to create a black list of players so you can negatively characterise how they play the game. The whiter than white impression you are trying to give for yourself doesn't wash.
In my view what happens in the game should really stay in the game. The moment people start to take their grievances and conflicts out into the real world is a step too far. I happen to think this offenders list of yours is a childish and poor idea. But some will only learn the hard way it seems :/
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Of course this is the whole reason of this tool, to make a KOS list. For the people who like pew pew, being on that list is a god send.
The problem is with people who get trolled/incorrect reported etc ...... well for them playing ED will be a lot more interesting
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Your opinion is appreciated CMDR, but if we know your intentions are like what you're talking about, we will just repeatedly kill you until you have no rebuys or you leave, we do that a lot. We have A LOT of enemies in Eravate that come there to harass new players, if you'd like to be one of those or just fight us, come on down.
Changing the subject though. This list that I'm proposing literally already exists and has been built upon for the previous year an a half with new entries added in each encounter deeming entry, but it has been internal to AA with well over 200 entries. You can deny it or not, but most player groups have a MASSIVE KOS list.. The general public does NOT have access to this resource. You're complaining about something not needing to exist when it already does in tons of different iterations. Because of our list we are able to very accurately figure out what people are up to in our area and I'm just trying to be nice and allow the public access.
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a) I don't like "KoS"-lists or other lists with names of "bad" CMDRs, because of that I don't like the idea of the OP.
b) I find this thread interesting and amusing. Isn't what the OP tries to do exactly what often gets mentioned in threads about "unwanted PvP" as a way to react to "emergent gameplay" and "legit gameplay"?
What happened to the concept of players fighting back against the "bad" guys/gals? Fighting back suddenly is not OK? I'm confused…
b) I find this thread interesting and amusing. Isn't what the OP tries to do exactly what often gets mentioned in threads about "unwanted PvP" as a way to react to "emergent gameplay" and "legit gameplay"?
What happened to the concept of players fighting back against the "bad" guys/gals? Fighting back suddenly is not OK? I'm confused…
I think this is a hopeless argument, Silk. People who know what you're trying to accomplish appreciate your endeavour and will participate and those who don't see anything bad in seal clubbing and don't see beyond "KOS lists", well... *shruggs*
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Fighting back is awesome, but one must also be a realist about this. Most people just aren't going to have a fully fledged PvP build sitting around or even yet the ability to fight off wings of CMDRs or even a really skilled one with it.ED is a game of travel and very few groups stick around the same system almost 100% of the time. It's just simply unrealistic for the novel idea of the T6 trader who was killed at a CG to go to the station, pick up his trusty FDL and take out the wing that just killed him. This tool isn't even for those kinds of people, they are for open play CMDRs looking to avoid enemies and being able to identify them.
Yet the title of the thread is a 'Cmdrs to avoid' list; a blacklist. What I think would be better is a much improved justice or rep system throughout the game which should allow for players to play as heroes or bandits. You know this game would be awfully dull if everyone played squeaky clean..
So if you look on the 'griefer investigation' on the AA website they have a player claiming a bounty on someone as an option for the report. LOL WAT?
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And that is how it should remain.
You're doing a good thing in Eravate by protecting the new players - keep your image clean and don't get involved in public smear campaigns (as that is what it will devolve into)
Come on now .. isn't this why groups like yours exist ? To protect these helpless T6 traders ?
If bandits are that much of a nuisance get together with your allies and start announcing "this CG at location X will be protected by AA ... if you need an escort contact CMDR Y in game"
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A switch on the status screen (like choosing a faction) and only to be set while docked. This would mark the player as Combative (C) or Non Combative (NC).
Interdicting a Non Combative player would result in the aggressor dropping out of supercruise and having to wait for the FSD to cool down slowly.
A Non Combative player (who forgot they set it) and tried to interdict a player would also suffer the supercruise dropout.
All NPCs would be combative.
A list of names would get to long to read and you would be dead in game trying to find your aggressor on the list.
Me personally, its a game and to many people take it far to seriously.
Griefing (which i do not agree with) is and always will be a part of online gaming.
If it gets to much for some people they should either go to another system 5 or 6 jumps away or play solo or group.
Interdicting a Non Combative player would result in the aggressor dropping out of supercruise and having to wait for the FSD to cool down slowly.
A Non Combative player (who forgot they set it) and tried to interdict a player would also suffer the supercruise dropout.
All NPCs would be combative.
A list of names would get to long to read and you would be dead in game trying to find your aggressor on the list.
Me personally, its a game and to many people take it far to seriously.
Griefing (which i do not agree with) is and always will be a part of online gaming.
If it gets to much for some people they should either go to another system 5 or 6 jumps away or play solo or group.
You are full of yourselves lol. I've not been to Eravate for a very long time and generally don't condone pwning noobs but I don't like your attitude so I'll likely make an exception in your case. And as for killing me till I have no resources left, good look with that.
An internal KOS list is fine and no ones business but your own but when you publically publish it 'Cmdrs to avoid' (blacklist) based upon your own perception of what is fair play, griefing, and so on thats when it becomes problematic.
With this all said we all have free will. Do as you please. Looks like noob is back on the menu boys
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