If Thargoids Destroyed The Bubble....

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Siobhan

Siobhan
Ian Doncaster said:
Given that the current speed of Thargoid advance seems to be at most 500 LY/year, the only way Thargoids are going to show up in Colonia is in an Elite V [1] set in 3350 or 3400.

There's a few other things missing:
1) We don't know how far after 2.4 it will be that Colonia gets an engineer. There's certainly no sign of one showing up that soon, unless they've kept it very quiet. Colonia is ~1/300th the size of the Sol bubble, so probably won't get two engineers even if/when it gets one. I wouldn't expect the full range of options by a long way. We don't even have A-rated modules yet for most things. (We don't even have the larger B-rated ones, for that matter)
2) No Powerplay. The Colonia bubble isn't big enough for even one Power.
3) No Superpowers. (Therefore no superpower ships, ranks, etc.)
4) Limited (and somewhat odd) passenger missions because almost every tourist beacon is within 500 LY of Sol.
5) Limited systems. If you think the queue for Dervish Platform is bad now... With the whole player population of the bubble stuffed into Colonia every system would be extremely busy.

Some of those might change in the next couple of years ... others, almost certainly not.

[1] An Elite V, set 50-100 years on, in a somewhat expanded Colonia starting to be threatened by Thargoid expansion after the original bubble was wiped out some time between the two games? Perhaps with some sort of extremely limited fast-travel tech "galactic hyperdrive" to jump to other Exodus Project colonies? If Frontier ever want to do an Elite I reboot that would be an excellent excuse and in a decade or so I might buy that :)
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Points 2 and 3 of course about no (super) powers/PP are positive. The others will vary.
 

JW667

JW667
Ian Doncaster said:
Given that the current speed of Thargoid advance seems to be at most 500 LY/year, the only way Thargoids are going to show up in Colonia is in an Elite V [1] set in 3350 or 3400.
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Who says their advance wouldn't speed up if it was all-out war and the bubble was already destroyed.
And if they are capable of destroying the bubble, then I'd assume they would be able to find and destroy Colonia.

Also, humans have moved to Colonia in one go. No gradual expansion whatsoever.
If we can do it, so can they.

Anyway... I'm taking this way to seriously :D
 

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
I'm not even sure what the Thargoids could possibly want with our patch of grass.
We only occupy a tiny portion of the galaxy.
All I can think is that they like to live in nebula, specifically the one Maia is in, and we're gradually taking over it.
And they want us gone.

In all likelihood, I see them just pushing us out of the region, and us pushing back because we're human and we want that region, because we don't have it, or someone else does.

So technically, we're invading them. Lol
 

GaryII

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Bitler said:
Would you move to colonia? i know i would enjoy that! there could also be a sick CG were you transport Refuges to Colonia !!!=0 , i really hope FD doesn't pull a Cliche move and just have the thargoids in the pleades nebula with just more grind and thats it =(
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If thargoids destroys The Bubble, FD need to be able to replace "destroyed" gameplay with it like Powerplay (yes, there are Cmrds who play it) all current player factions in The Bubble = a lot of people will just lose a progress that they had here...


Current Colonia does not impress me at all..
 

Maxmilian Czhilli

Maxmilian Czhilli
The Thargoids will not destroy the bubble. They seek only to enslave us.

And they will not use millions of warships to do it.

Because the takeover is already happening before our very eyes. The Thargoid stooges in the Alliance have been gradually laying down the infrastructure of occupation for years. Inexorably green creeps across the bubble.

The Thargoid encounters in the Pleiades are merely a distraction to get the Feds and Imperials to take their eye of the ball. Meanwhile the likes of the AEDC (Alien Emissary Deception Corp) have been extending the slimy green tendrils of Alliance control to the point where Sol is almost within in their grasp. Expect another ramp up of activity as the green menace reaches towards Achenar.

Mankind's industrious nature is too valuable a resource to destroy when it could be exploited instead.

Powerplay is our only salvation. Wake up Sheeple!
 

Hadarmil

Hadarmil
Maxmilian Czhilli said:
The Thargoids will not destroy the bubble. They seek only to enslave us.

And they will not use millions of warships to do it.

Because the takeover is already happening before our very eyes. The Thargoid stooges in the Alliance have been gradually laying down the infrastructure of occupation for years. Inexorably green creeps across the bubble.

The Thargoid encounters in the Pleiades are merely a distraction to get the Feds and Imperials to take their eye of the ball. Meanwhile the likes of the AEDC (Alien Emissary Deception Corp) have been extending the slimy green tendrils of Alliance control to the point where Sol is almost within in their grasp. Expect another ramp up of activity as the green menace reaches towards Achenar.

Mankind's industrious nature is too valuable a resource to destroy when it could be exploited instead.

Powerplay is our only salvation. Wake up Sheeple!
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If PP is our salvation I'll recieve our ammonia lords with glee. Just saying.
 

Daniel Cloudsifter

Daniel Cloudsifter
Bitler said:
why do you not like colonia? i mean its just an area of space that is also inhabited jezzz
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It's a newly colonized area that's really far away from the Bubble. There's no super power tension out there (Federation/Earth vs Empire, with the Alliance on the side). Not that many minor factions.

*I* find Colonia boring. That doesn't mean it *is* boring or it *is* bad. For me, if the game is about abandoning all of human space in the bubble for this new Bubble, I'm not interested.
 

Daniel Cloudsifter

Daniel Cloudsifter
CMDR S. Russell said:
It's not about Colonia .. (example) it's about the struggle of the human race against a superior species. The destruction of the bubble and the forced exodus of the survivors of humanity, a new era for humanity; one of fear and trepidation. A fear that drives every man, woman and child to prepare for the inevitable; conflict with the Thargoids yet again. A year or two spend in preparation as we set a course to reclaim our home.
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How do you know they are superior? Yes, they are clearly superior in some ways (gravitic engines, corrosive effects, and EMP blasts). So were the Guardians, who have been dead for 1-2 million years. However, we are much more advanced that the Guardians were at their end in several fields - energy weapons, explosive weapons, (possibly) FSD technology, starship construction/variation - were told as much from the information we gathered from Ram Tah.

Personally, I'm going to find this sadly disappointing if it is an "Aliens are going to wipe us out. We have to flee to survive." because that trope has been done to death as much "humanity wins because we're special!"

I think the Thargoids are going to have the potential to be a big threat and seriously disrupt interstellar travel. But wipe out the major worlds? We haven't seen them deploy any tech yet that would justify that. Plus, consider C4 Plasma accelerators are supposed to be able to do orbital bombardment/wipe out cities like nukes, yet civilians are allowed to run around with them, I'm guessing most of the major planets have formidable defenses.

Bottom line: Braben can do what he wants. It's his vision. But if it turns out to be a BSG wipeout and run event, I'm out. Not fun... playing something else. Everyone else have fun with that.
 

William J Smith

William J Smith
I would'nt be going to colonia....

I'd stay in what remains of the bubble, jumping from refuge to refuge, trying to salvage whatever I can, from where ever I can, to gather intel on insectoid vermin until that glorious day when I find a giant sized can of raid and drop it on their homeworld :D

Bill

<<<caution : this cmdr is crazy [wacky]
 

Siobhan

Siobhan
William J Smith said:
I would'nt be going to colonia....

I'd stay in what remains of the bubble, jumping from refuge to refuge, trying to salvage whatever I can, from where ever I can, to gather intel on insectoid vermin until that glorious day when I find a giant sized can of raid and drop it on their homeworld :D

Bill

<<<caution : this cmdr is crazy [wacky]
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So you'll be organising the looting then?
 

Connolly91

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Isn't Colonia 22kly away from the current bubble though?

Even assuming that you're buckyballing (let's be generous and say 2000 light years per hour), that's ELEVEN GOD DAMN HOURS of the hyperspace loading screen.

Absolutely no bloody chance that any of the casual elite players would do that.

That's why the Thargoid 'threat' isn't really a threat at all. Nothing will actually happen. I would LOVE for the bubble to be destroyed and to cause a mass Exodus, however, this is an online game, it simply will not happen because the majority of players will not be wanting to spend a minimum of 11 REAL WORLD HOURS flying to the second bubble.

We'll get new thargoid encounters, maybe some 'alien conflict zones', more RNGeer grind for anti-thargoid modules, and that's it. People who are expecting more will be sorely disappointed.
 

CMDR Ellegon

CMDR Ellegon
Connolly91 said:
Isn't Colonia 22kly away from the current bubble though?

Even assuming that you're buckyballing (let's be generous and say 2000 light years per hour), that's ELEVEN GOD DAMN HOURS of the hyperspace loading screen.

Absolutely no bloody chance that any of the casual elite players would do that.

<Negativity and FUD removed>
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That is not necessarily true. An engineered Anaconda can easily do 60 ly per jump and easily do 60 jumps an hour. So 22000/60 = 367. Add 10% as you will never reach ideal jump distances: 403 jumps or less than 7 hours in game. Does appear quite doable to me. You could do it even fast by using the "Neutron Star Highway".
 

knowles2

K
I hope it not just colonia that is the pull back point, remember all those basis found out near FORMIDINE RIFT

an there some pretty remote asteroid bases around.

But I'm with the gang that say destroy, destroy it all!

then next a few week afterwards give us proper weapons to fight them.

Connolly91 said:
Isn't Colonia 22kly away from the current bubble though?

Even assuming that you're buckyballing (let's be generous and say 2000 light years per hour), that's ELEVEN GOD DAMN HOURS of the hyperspace loading screen.

Absolutely no bloody chance that any of the casual elite players would do that.

That's why the Thargoid 'threat' isn't really a threat at all. Nothing will actually happen. I would LOVE for the bubble to be destroyed and to cause a mass Exodus, however, this is an online game, it simply will not happen because the majority of players will not be wanting to spend a minimum of 11 REAL WORLD HOURS flying to the second bubble.

We'll get new thargoid encounters, maybe some 'alien conflict zones', more RNGeer grind for anti-thargoid modules, and that's it. People who are expecting more will be sorely disappointed.
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Then you stay and fight the thargoid scum or give them what ever they want when you encounter them.
 
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Crash1099

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CMDR Ellegon said:
That is not necessarily true. An engineered Anaconda can easily do 60 ly per jump and easily do 60 jumps an hour. So 22000/60 = 367. Add 10% as you will never reach ideal jump distances: 403 jumps or less than 7 hours in game. Does appear quite doable to me. You could do it even fast by using the "Neutron Star Highway".
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Not everyone wants an exploration conda up there. I brought my 20 ly conda there.
 
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