Are you saying they were lying when they said they now have a 100 man dev team dedicated to and working on the next ED expansion?
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Are you saying they were lying when they said they now have a 100 man dev team dedicated to and working on the next ED expansion?
I would love to see an answer from Will or someone else of FD. Heeeeello FD, are you still with us? It is April meanwhile!!! CGs, updates for 2019, the new erst of 2020?
At present there is very little evidence to either prove or disprove this assertion.
I'm quite sure that there are 100 people or more working on Elite: Dangerous at the moment but presently, I suspect, not all of them will be working on the current game. The vast majority of them will be working on the big 2020 update with the rest either working on bug fixes or these small enhancements.
If you've got big ongoing development projects like this (and I'm only going on my experience here); you normally split the whole team into three development streams ;-
So they're not lying on the 100 people working on Elite: Dangerous but the number of people working on the game we're playing at the moment is probably between 20 to 30. I wouldn't get expect to have those numbers confirmed as what team structures a company uses to actually develop and maintain it's product could be considered 'Commercially Sensitive'.
Guess we'll have a better idea when the next update and these CG replacements come out.
If you've got big ongoing development projects like this (and I'm only going on my experience here); you normally split the whole team into three development streams ;-
- Main - This is the biggest team and will be working on the next big upgrade, in this case the 2020. I'd guess probably 70 people.
- Enhance - This will be the team working on content to keep us interested until 2020. It will be a lot smaller of a team, probably another 20.
- Run - This is the bug smashing team, probably 10 or so who's whole purpose is to crush bugs and make sure anything enhance releases doesn't break the build.
So they're not lying on the 100 people working on Elite: Dangerous but the number of people working on the game we're playing at the moment is probably between 20 to 30. I wouldn't get expect to have those numbers confirmed as what team structures a company uses to actually develop and maintain it's product could be considered 'Commercially Sensitive'.
Guess we'll have a better idea when the next update and these CG replacements come out.
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Can confirm on that one. Having seen them in their office actually working on it (a sight to behold tbh, especially with good old Science Master Dav Stott in his lab coat
). yeah there are 100 if not more folks "crammed" into that office just for Elite.Buggers kept turning their screens off though
Only 1 year and 6 months to go! Yay...
Latter half of 2020 could include up to 31 December 2020, though I expect FD will want to hit the Christmas sales (please insert culturally appropriate festival for you if necessary).
They're probably aiming for end of November 2020 then
Well, I take back a little what I said. Haha. I just jumped in the Krait Phantom, got a kit for it, new paint job and ventured out into the black again. Finally used the 4K monitor for its intended purpose. Usually had it on 2k resolution. Amazing. Still a great sim but I just wish there was more now. Not in almost 2 years. There are plenty of other games out there, however. No mans sky is pretty cool, SC is looking better after most recent update, X4 is pretty cool but could use some serious polishing and content....Lately, I've been into X-plane (flight sim) so I guess I can pre-occupy myself with other sims/games.
Maybe some news today? It's mid of April, nearly
9th - mid April. Lol. Is it also summer now, since we're "mid year" , nearly
Perhaps Ed still has to OK everything, that's why it's taking so long?
Well, to be honest I hope that there isn't a new release next week. They released 2.3 over Easter a couple of years ago and because there were a couple of serious bugs in it, nothing was fixed until after the easter break. That created enough salt to keep MacDonald's fries 'tasty' for a year.
No new news on CG+, or updates, or the NBT. Tough to be an ED community manager at the moment.
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Alfred J Kwak
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Trade still the same, exploration well the worst update so far.mining got a bit more qualtiy. Ice planets delayed , carriers delayed 2 things they hyped 14 months earlier.
And dont tell me that it took 100 people to create that content when the first season had better and more substantial updates .
The same time it took frontier to release the beyond season and horizons season , a smaller company called egosoft recoverd from the rebirth debacle and created a totaly new game . including space legs hundreds of playable ships.
What did Frontier actualy do on elite? nothing slow paced development poor design choices. and we all have seen when a new game is in the works Elite grinds to a halt.
The 3rd party tools , websites has more updates and features we actualy use than frontier released.
4 months after release space is almost empty players started to stop playing after a few weeks. you dont believe me just watch the trafic in usualy bussy systems.
Dropping from 800 to 1000 players traveling through a system to barely 20 to 32.
So you can say frontier is not working with 100 people on elite. maybe if you count the community managers , support,moderators canteen personnel , and the ones creating fluf like paintjobs decals etc. other wise you wont get even close.
Then explain the poor quality and little content they put out this last year?
Trade still the same, exploration well the worst update so far.mining got a bit more qualtiy. Ice planets delayed , carriers delayed 2 things they hyped 14 months earlier.
And dont tell me that it took 100 people to create that content when the first season had better and more substantial updates .
The same time it took frontier to release the beyond season and horizons season , a smaller company called egosoft recoverd from the rebirth debacle and created a totaly new game . including space legs hundreds of playable ships.
What did Frontier actualy do on elite? nothing slow paced development poor design choices. and we all have seen when a new game is in the works Elite grinds to a halt.
The 3rd party tools , websites has more updates and features we actualy use than frontier released.
4 months after release space is almost empty players started to stop playing after a few weeks. you dont believe me just watch the trafic in usualy bussy systems.
Dropping from 800 to 1000 players traveling through a system to barely 20 to 32.
So you can say frontier is not working with 100 people on elite. maybe if you count the community managers , support,moderators canteen personnel , and the ones creating fluf like paintjobs decals etc. other wise you wont get even close.
Opinion.
Opinion (also factually incorrect).
Opinion.
Opinion (also factually incorrect).
Things get delayed. Welcome to the real world.
It's normal to hype things.
It took 100 people to create content. Some of that content was released, some of it was not. Some other content could likely be still under development and won't be available until 2020.
Irrelevant.
They worked on it; as is evidenced by an entire year of content which they didn't charge a dime for.
Factually incorrect.
They can work at whatever pace they damn well please. It is most assuredly NOT up to you to dictate that pace.
Opinion. Make your own game if you're so talented and experienced you can belittle the design choices of others.
People see what they want to see.
3rd party tools that use an API that Frontier had to spend time and resources to develop. Also, 3rd party tools are much easier to develop than a game. This comparison is laughable.
This is normal, for every single game. Ever. There is an initial rush of players, then the playerbase drops to the more active players; those who the game caters for.
Space is big.
Wouldn't know, I play in Mobius. I focus on me.
SHINRARTA DEZHRA, according to INARA, had over 5500 players in the last 24 hours. People move around.
YOU can say that. I don't see any benefit for Frontier in lying about how many people work on Elite; nor do I presume to make an assumption based on absolutely no reliable, provable or unbias data.
When they say 100 people, you do know they aren't referring to 100 developers.. right?
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In short all point i made are vallid. perhaps you should read some of the comments made on other Chanels ? forrums? and other reviews about this slow progress . if i remember correctly several big streamers , community forrums and actual data on how many people say exactly the same thing about the lack of progress , broken scedules and huge drops in players .
As this is a frontier run forrum you get a lot of but kissers and smoke blowing up rear end regions to cover up all the facts and claim there is great progress.
I recomend keeping your smoke blowing to your self and let the rest of the community decide on what has changed and what made improvements.
I also remind you frontier did screw over the backers and didnt deliver what was promised.
So i wish you good luck in finding people that actualy think you are right on other forrums and media.
So far this forrum is just like the rotten tomato scores for Startrek discovery and last season of doctor who.
This forrum is the positve rotten tomato reviews the actual community forrums, streamers review are the actual scores .
Acording to you this forrum is 80 % positive and 10 % negative and 10 % dont care. in reality 70 % is negative , 20 % dont realy care and 10 % is positive.
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