And this is why frontier can't win. People using solo because this is literally impossible to stop, threatening the developer. Way to go. Way to gain support. Just threaten everyone.
And people say Open has issues.
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This has nothing to do with PVP. This is because PP literally encourages solo use. You can undermine, fifth-column and everything else with complete impunity. There is absolutely zero risk of any action being undone. Because it's physically impossible.
The war to get PVE added to this game is pretty much destroying any actual value in debate of other topics. Its seeking to use this as a solution to every problem. Frankly it's really boring hearing the same "reasons" recycled to support any argument, all day 'ery day.
It's hard to support such thinking when it goes to such extreme. Both sides of this are getting so religiously out of control it's just crushing all other debate. Come on frontier. Sort this out. Make a decision already so we can all move on.
> Maybe it comes down to personal interpretation, but what I read didn't sound anything like a threat. In fact, I would say it is quite courteous to inform a content provider that they disagree with a decision. Would you prefer a customer to warn you before heading out the door, or just leaving with no comment to work with?
Deeper meta, as if all things worked as they should, you could have 50 people in Open split 25/25 and 50 in Solo split 25/25 and they would balance each other out. Problem is, the people in Solo face no competition, so they gain an advantage over the people in Open who aren't as skilled in combat, so the people in Open switch to Solo to avoid all confrontation. Next thing you know, everyone's in Solo because it's safe, and no one can counter anyone because it's all Solo. Add in the 5th column players, and you get a system that's not equal across all modes. Sandro's concept addresses this, it's the best possible solution if you keep PP in all 3 modes.
Again, CGs have already failed, some didn't reach their final tier(Obsidian Orbital anyone?), so there is no need to balance anything with them. You're now running around with a hammer looking for a screw to paint...
Yes, THAT'S IT! That is EXACTLY why Sandro came up with this! David Braben and the rest of the folks at FD are actually the REAL people running The Code and Smiling Dog Crew and ALL of the gankers and griefers in the game, and since EVERYONE is running to Solo, they need to do this to get people to grief! Man, no one can get anything by you can they?
Some people's kids.....
> I see, but is there any
evidence that it's not working as it should?
> "Add in the 5th column players, and you get a system that's not equal across all modes." It sounds like this is the real complaint right here. But how is buffing Open PP going to fix the 5c issues? As for Solo being safe, if you're talking about visiting the Insurance Screen, you may have a point, but the interdictions are
just as annoying in Solo, that's why I stopped playing PP, that and I only did it for the Bounty Bonus. I didn't give a hoot about the actual powers or anything.
Yes they are options all of them good. but powerplay is something that changes the galaxy for every one. so I feel that it would be fair to give a bonus to those who play powerplay in open.
the amount of times I have been in powerplay and I just see CMDRS pop out of the world because they spoted me as an enemie...
I dont want open to have bonus in everything only in powerplay and maybe conflict zones however what I think the ''fix'' would be is in areas were players are ment to fight they are worth more points.
so NPC in powerplay : 30 points CMDR : 200
NPC in conflict zone 1,000 CMDR 100,000
and if FD want to continue down the participation medal nonsens they could give a bit of cash to someone if they died against a player , anything to make the BGS and PP more ballanced
That's a fine opinion to have, but at the end of the day, you're saying you want your preferred mode of play buffed. That's fine and good, but don't preach it up.
As long as they fix all the imbalances between Open and all the other modes...I'm on board.
If they are only going to cherry pick PP...not interested.
This is an excellent design decision, and a step in the right direction for E
Yes x1000, please.
edit: please don't stop with just this change, and address other aspects of the game - incentivize players to interact with each other in open, heavily.
What about two sides opposing a community goal? In 6 months time if you buff PP, CG players will want a buff.
Why should explorers not in open able to get first discovered on a system? Explorers compete to name stuff, so why not give them buffs too. Im not saying either are entitled, but once you open the flood gates there is no going back.
Perfect examples of why I stand against this decision even though I'm disinterested in PP. It starts here and the pleading will continue for buffs to 1 play mode for the rest of the game.
Seems to me all the grief stems from open.
Time to get rid of it.
lol, though I'm sure it was in jest, it does seem to be where all the pleading is coming from all the time.
It's not going to work anyway. Log into Open, block UDP port. All the benefits of Open with the joy of Solo.
I was genuinely surprised this post was so far down the line, I was expecting to see this right on the first page. P2P, yet more proof Elite: Dangerous was never meant to be a "competitive" platform.
break break break
The more I read this thread, the more is seems to me that this plead for Open bennies has stemmed from certain player groups stirring the pot and now they don't like the taste of the stew. With a little respect for the person on the other end of the connection, it seems this whole thing could have been avoided.
