Instant Gratification Gaming
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Just my two cents worth. As a younger person that wasn't even born when Elite was launched i have no idea what it was like. But to blame my generation for the creativity that the "older" generation put forward to us and enjoyed the profits of us eating all that up. It wasn't our generation that made those games easier to the point that they are spoon feeding everyone that plays it.
Those are just my thoughts, I am enjoying the game, am a beta backer. Have spent plenty hours playing and figuring things out on my own.
Those are just my thoughts, I am enjoying the game, am a beta backer. Have spent plenty hours playing and figuring things out on my own.
There seems to be a gulf between what some people are asking for and what other people think they're asking for. Not one single person has asked for an easy ride, just for the only ways to make money (aside from BB missions) to not be broken. The economy for example relies on systems having a high demand for something, but I haven't seen a single high demand for anything anywhere in the systems I've checked in for the last week. Bounty hunting randomly earns you fines larger than the bounty regardless of whether you use a KWS or not. Mining takes the same amount of time to earn money as running low end bounty board missions and it's far more boring.
This isn't how the game is meant to be.
No one wants instant gratification, just the gratification of being paid for the work they put in. And right now, it absolutely feels like work.
This isn't how the game is meant to be.
No one wants instant gratification, just the gratification of being paid for the work they put in. And right now, it absolutely feels like work.
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I'm not entirely sure that this is a problem confined to the younger generation. I'm an older player and I've seen a lot games ruined by the thirty-somethings. This notion that now they have jobs/kids etc and not so much time to play, games should be made easier and quicker. Their consumer power fuelled the rise of the 'pay to win' MMO. I've tried to explain many times that content is the same for all. If you've got less time per session it will take you more sessions but we all spend the same time on the content. It usually falls on deaf ears. I'm a slow leveller myself, I don't see the point in this desperate desire to get to endgame without savouring the journey.
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This is very true, but how about things like checkpoints, older games were pretty bad in terms of those. These days asking a gamer to repeat a 15 minute section of a linear game is unheard of, if this is the case its pretty much always mentioned in the reviews saying the game has terrible checkpoints. Old games made you start from the beginning when you died. Now we have the Roguelike, very much an old school genre but they hardly make up a large percentage of games released.
Indeed, it actually isn't your "fault", it's you parent's... you know, the baby boomers that thought it to be a good idea to remove any form of competative bahaviour and ambition from your life.
...not "you" as in you personally, "you" as in your generation, of course.
Totally agree with the OP. Anybody expecting to play ED and blow up stuff (or other players) straight away is in for disappointment.
Absolutely, but having to restart from scratch was because it was technically very hard to do anything else. It wasn't because 13 year-olds in the 80s were more patient and serious.
Gamers are a spoilt bunch these days, they seem to want everything instantly, everything seems to work like this now, press A to blow up everything, press X to pick up silly overpowered weapon, press SPACE to collect insane amount of cash, press UP to watch your character climb a building with little to no interaction from you. In a game that is designed to be completed in 1 sitting this is all fine, but I don't think that Elite is supposed to be that game, in fact I really hope Frontier dont listen TOO much to the whiners otherwise Elite is going to lose all the things that make the game what it is.
I dont understand what the big hurry is, and I don't see why people need to know everything right from the start, there is a lot of fun to be had just learning how things work for yourself. 1 post I read recently complaining about how you have to swing around and make another try if you don't slow down in time when exiting supercruise, I mean really, from the time you overshoot to the moment you've come around and are within the correct range to drop out of warp is just a few seconds, if people don't have time to play video games, they should not play video games.
Obviously, its ok to be angry about broken stuff, things that were promised and are simply missing, things that break immersion and tedious things that do not seem to have any reason for being there in the first place. But there is a right way to complain and the annoying way. Some gamers are quite young and they don't know any better, but the very best way to get the attention of the people that actually make the games is to make a constructive post explaining the problem in detail and perhaps even give an idea or 2 as to how this issue might be fixed or tweaked. Be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem
I'll close with a tip: (spoiler alert if you want to learn how not to overshoot when trying to exit supercruise on your own, haha)
After a few tries I've discovered that going full throttle when in supercruise until the moment the 'ETA' indicator reaches 7 seconds and then slowing down and maintaining 7 seconds without going below 7 works best and you will never overshoot your target again, you can bring it down to 6 or 5 but you start risking an overshoot. It was fun to learn this my way. But if Frontier absolutely have to make any changes to this then maybe they could add an option (not in by default) that turns the timer green or red when you're at the correct speed or going too fast.
The assumption that anybody with a different opinion than yours, is a whiny spoiled brat, just because you think that you're the older, or smarter than the others does not make you a better person.
getting tired of seeing these threads for free insults. it's clear that this thread is not about anything but your relation with certain posters on this board, what about pm'ing them what you think about them directly instead of publishing all of your malcontent.
because you know...you are whining about whiners....
Morrowind!? Morrowind!? Morrowind was much too easy
Daggerfall.... Now THAT threw you in at the deep end, with its couple of lines of plot and a sandbox the size of Turkey to play in. And I LOVED every minute of it! That's what ED reminds me of, and I couldnt be more in my element.
I do indeed, played that game for many years and loved it, mostly because there was nothing else quite like it. I still remember having to sit for 13 mins to go from no mana to full again after killing just a couple of enemies, and in the earlier days you had to sit with your spellbook closed so you couldn't even see what was going on around you. The world felt big because of travelling on foot, and death was something to be afraid of as there were consequences.
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@the darkwalker
wow that kid has some funny ears!
And you are whining about whining about whiners...?
OP has many valid points that address a common theme emerging from many posts on these forums. He may have already addressed each of these posts directly, or even PMed the posters for all you know.
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You forgot lump of coal for christmas and being damn grateful for it
Oh, I'll never forget that.
Happiest day of my life.