Interview with SDC about Salome.

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Sorry but that doesn't make sense, why did they need to be anywhere near competent? I get why SDC didn't want the defense force to be too competent but not the need for them to be somewhat competent.

Because we weren't the only ones hunting her. Needed them to be able to successfully defend the VIPs from all the other idiots trying to do what we were doing.
 
Well. How about that.
Oh, well, because they didn't do what you TOLD them to do... Which of course, having not gotten the memo either nor would I obey the commands of some random jackwad in game. Doesn't occur to you, naturally, since you've anointed yourselves sole arbiters of everything going down that you've no right to tell another player what to do with themselves in game than they do you, doesn't matter if you run a 5500 player wing or a lone wolf. I'm sorry, not one thing you've said so far hasn't come off like elitist crap.

Nice edit after the fact. It doesn't change the argument about imposing your will on other players. And people wonder why FDEV is resistant to player groups, and allowing them to control tracts of space..
 
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I did participate in the event. I came in an unarmed Diamondback Scout and followed PAC instructions to observe and chain interdict as needed. I never saw any of the characters and now understand that none of them actually even entered the waypoints we were asked to patrol.

Ultimately I blame CoR and Drew for giving those groups that wanted to kill Salome ample opportunity. The fact that they friend listed obvious SDC hunters etc. just smacks to me of a scripted finish.

Truthfully I couldn't care less that the other three non-characters made it to their destinations. The sad truth is that Darth Vadar killed Leia through either sheer incompetence or a scripted finish. Whichever is true it makes me sick and I won't be playing the game again anytime soon and Drew can forget my cash for the book.
 
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Oh, well, because they didn't do what you TOLD them to do... Which of course, having not gotten the memo either nor would I obey the commands of some random jackwad in game. Doesn't occur to you, naturally, since you've annointed yourselves sole arbiters of everything going down that you've no right to tell another player what to do with themselves in game than they do you, doesn't matter if you run a 5500 player wing or a lone wolf. I'm sorry, not one thing you've said so far hasn't come off like elitist crap.

It comes off as elitist because maybe you think I was one of the planners? I didn't appoint myself anything, I joined someone else's player group, and they assigned me a role. It actually does work that way, if you run a player group, you make the rules. If you want to join someone else's player group, you follow their rules. As for not getting the memos, they were highlighted in gold, stickied, and repeated in voice over and over. It took a lot of effort for anyone who wanted to participate in PAC to miss them. Plenty of other player groups had no problem participating without joining PAC. Lots of them participated more than PAC, the only person I shot was a hostile Python who died before I had my multis reloaded. The plan was to avoid people dying that fast on our side.
 
Turned out that we didn’t really need it because of our spies

What utter bovine doo-doo.....

All you SDC dudes did was follow a friend-icon around the map.

Well done and well gamed!

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Some of you probably don't me, I'm a small time reporter trying to make his way in a very big galaxy. The whole Salome has caused a lot of drama but let me try to put some rumours to rest. Below I have two interviews that I did with Ryan, a member of SDC. One was done a day or so before the event and the second one was done yesterday.

Hopefully the below will answer any quieres that you might have.

Appreciate the posting, despite the outcome of the whole scenario. I'm sure the entire party will be discussed to death for the next 30 days or so. At least Frontier learned how well the equipment held up (or didn't) and people who involved themselves also learned some valuable lessons from the experience, be it a good or bad. Your peek behind the scenes is appreciated.
 
Not at all. We're actually good at what we do and accomplished our task.

No doubt about it and my sincere admiration to you blazing your own trail so brightly. You deserve a place in the lore.
However, if truth be told, you don't have any game induced constraints or personal parameters as a group - indeed, your ethos seems to be to flout this both conceptually and tangibly.
It makes your trumpet blowing a tad flat and a little desperate. Just my opinion of course.
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I don't fault the scorpion for stinging. SDC played to their nature, but I really think they missed an opportunity to become more. I think the uptick in rep and positive respect would have garnered them more of a victory and resulted in more interest in open play for one thing, if that's something you desire.

The way it went down probably had the opposite effect, but either way, it is now history for good or ill.

The best takeaway as i see is the fact that the player base needs better tagging to determine friendlies and hostiles in events like that. The infiltration issue was a human one and that you can't program out.

The galnet article and the way it plays in the book should be more true to events too. Besieger the "bounty hunter?" Pshhh! If he was a mad traitor who plotted for the right time to strike, that should be the story. Much more interesting that way
 
It is funny to me to read about people being needed to be told what to do, or given permission to play certain roles. I didn't even know about the event until the day before it happened and I was still almost 20,000 LY's away. I jumped all night and literally got back to Sothis in my Exploraconda just as the festivities were getting started. I kept an eye on a couple of discord channels & voice comms that were posting updates in realtime, flew to Jameson's, grabbed my Vulture and managed to get to the system everyone thought at the time was going to be Salome's destination. I managed to wing up with two of my friends who heading that way looking to get in on the action, and we ended up at Teorges which was filling up fast with legions of battlefit Cutters, Corvette's, 'Condas. The place looked like an FdL convention. It was obvious that there was going to be a full out Battlestar Galactica showdown if she made it that far. It was hugely fun, even coming in the very end of it and not really playing a part.

If someone had told me that I couldn't do what I was doing they would have had to make me leave with force. Not part of a group. Not given any special permission...just me and my buddies looking to raise some cain. I think that's called "blazing my own trail." If people have learned anything from recent events, it's that you shouldn't have to ask permission to do whatever you want to do.
 
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It comes off as elitist because maybe you think I was one of the planners? I didn't appoint myself anything, I joined someone else's player group, and they assigned me a role. It actually does work that way, if you run a player group, you make the rules. If you want to join someone else's player group, you follow their rules. As for not getting the memos, they were highlighted in gold, stickied, and repeated in voice over and over. It took a lot of effort for anyone who wanted to participate in PAC to miss them. Plenty of other player groups had no problem participating without joining PAC. Lots of them participated more than PAC, the only person I shot was a hostile Python who died before I had my multis reloaded. The plan was to avoid people dying that fast on our side.
You're here defending the behavior. I dont carw whose player wing was running the show, people showing up are under no obligation to follow their directives. You chose to. Thats fine, but that's on you. This was billed as an event for everyone, I'm just sorry for the players for whom it didnt turn out that way for whatever reason. The question was did that see like a case of elitism. The answer given was pure .
 
Probably better to form an opinion on the basis of the in-game video dialogue rather than any overly-rationalised after-the-fact waffle.

Course, the SDC did what they do very well.

It's the CoR and PAC (along with, possibly, FDev) who made themselves look like they can't be trusted to organise a booze-up in a brewery.
 
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I've already commented on the game v book universe in the conspiracy thread so I won't repeat it here.
But regards SDC. Sorry, gonna call it. End of last year Drew posted that SDC had agreed to be the bad guys in this event.
Any talk of deciding to be good guys is twaddle and would be highly disrespectful to Drew and the rest of the community. The event *needed* bad guys else who are ye defending against?

Any infiltration rubbish is just that. Go look at the other thread for reasons why it was important to share locations to the bad guys to ensure we had an actual lottery rather than a Salomé jonk fest and we're done. No fun in that 30 min exercise.
 
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Will Harry Potter keep the reward or donate it? There was 5 million placed by the Empire and another 1 billion credits by one individual pilot.

Harry will be donating a significant portion of his reward to some newbies in a yet-to-be-announced event. Can’t give any more details on it.[/QUOTE]



Charity to newbies? From a group that use to hang around the starter areas and kill newbies just for the lulz.
 
You're here defending the behavior. I dont carw whose player wing was running the show, people showing up are under no obligation to follow their directives. You chose to. Thats fine, but that's on you. This was billed as an event for everyone, I'm just sorry for the players for whom it didnt turn out that way for whatever reason. The question was did that see like a case of elitism. The answer given was pure .

So it seems elitist for PAC to run a tight defensive team, and the you don't accept whatever answer you referenced. Fair enough. Yet somehow it's not elitist for a small numbers of players to demand thousands of others change their plans at the last minute? Doesn't that strike you as entitled at all?
 
So it seems elitist for PAC to run a tight defensive team, and the you don't accept whatever answer you referenced. Fair enough.
they could run a tight defensive team without being exclusionary, yes. Any plans they made should have allowed for the chance people were just going to show up, without the answer being to ask them to bug off.
Yet somehow it's not elitist for a small numbers of players to demand thousands of others change their plans at the last minute? Doesn't that strike you as entitled at all?
You exaggerate for dramatic effect, but I assume you mean to allow people to "blaze their own trail" as we've been told repeatedly we have the ability to do in this game? As SDC did? Seems to me the wrong people were attempted to be excluded....

Its not entitlement to play the game the way its supposed to be played and attend an event that was promise to be open to everyone. Besides, if a handful of loners caused PAC to reshuffle thier plans, I'd argue then those plans were not realistic.
 
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