Introduce Systems where Mods are forbidden!
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There should be a CQC in game where people can enter and fight their in game ships in ranked combat.
a nice idea in theory, but unlike Mobius you can't really identify those not conforming.
Checking whether a ship has engineered modules isn't quite as achievable as checking whether someone blew up another player...
you're both absolutely right.. I have no counter for what you say.
Shield mods et al passive upgrades you just cannot detect.
Meeting in the middle, would it be possible to accept the beast that people probably will use shield / passive mods? ...but not break the ultimate goal of getting some fun skirmishes up and running without all the active weaponry upgrades. I guess it'll be the regretfully accepted norm that possibly shield upgrades will be used, but, weapons will be outlawed. Hopefully it's easier to determine if someone is being an at with modded weapons though.
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This idea is mocked above, but thing is with corrected matchmaking and joining the mode I can't see why that'd be a negative at all.
I think OP's suggestion is going to hurt ma emersjon, but it has been hurt lately. I will back up the proposel for Hutton and if not possible maybe a nice small cluster near Beagle Point, this to insure you are not ganked by an evil ganking, griefing, no good CMDR. You could evn have a little security force there and a single delapidated orbital station, with a shipyard of course. No outposts, no mission board (cant have it all!) and only 1000 ammo pr. 10 minuttes. Limited fuel, and no scoops.
I would support that. I would even use spare time to make it happen.
So dont say the PVE's are not helpful [yesnod]
Cheers Cmdr's
I would support that. I would even use spare time to make it happen.
So dont say the PVE's are not helpful [yesnod]
Cheers Cmdr's
Pretty much my entire game for a long time has been 1v1 PvP duelling, and although my success rate has if anything been boosted by 2.1 RNGineering, I would like to say that, to me, the OP's proposal, if implemented, would be the single best thing ever to happen in this game.
I applaud.
Thank you and will rep asap,
Truesilver
I applaud.
Thank you and will rep asap,
Truesilver
verminstar
Banned
My my...pvprs and pvers agreeing on a proposal...wonders will never cease...think we might be onto something here?
Or not, the salt wins, nothing changes and we right back to square one...
Food fer thought...take away the mst universally hated mechanic and all of a sudden theres a little tiny piece of common ground ^
Or not, the salt wins, nothing changes and we right back to square one...
Food fer thought...take away the mst universally hated mechanic and all of a sudden theres a little tiny piece of common ground ^
I think OP's suggestion is going to hurt ma emersjon, but it has been hurt lately. I will back up the proposel for Hutton and if not possible maybe a nice small cluster near Beagle Point, this to insure you are not ganked by an evil ganking, griefing, no good CMDR. You could evn have a little security force there and a single delapidated orbital station, with a shipyard of course. No outposts, no mission board (cant have it all!) and only 1000 ammo pr. 10 minuttes. Limited fuel, and no scoops.
I would support that. I would even use spare time to make it happen.
So dont say the PVE's are not helpful [yesnod]
Cheers Cmdr's
I know your game. Make the system awkward as possible, under the guise of "adding challenge for PvPers", and then you walk in with your Ship-Launched-Cutter missiles and rampage through everyone
Apparently so...
As a non-Horizons player, this would be a dream!
I play nothing but open, so when another commander interdicts me (even in my FDL (especially my FDL because it has no cargo bay)), I have a very simple list:
1. During interdiction, choose a high wake and put 2 pips to shields and 4 pips to engines
2. Fight interdiction
3. If losing, submit
4. RUN LIKE HELL
5. High wake
Always, always, ALWAYS run from another commander. Most of the ones interdicting non cargo ships have tons of mods and tons of skill. Since I don't have Horizons, unlike many people, I always assume the enemy commander has mods, and that any resistance in my FDL against their super tank FAS, or ultra maneuverable Vulture, or etc. is futile. Better to repair 250K damage than kiss 4M goodbye. So if there's a clan version in which FDev has disabled engineering I'd sign right up. Fighting chance 100% of the time, that's better than .001%.
I play nothing but open, so when another commander interdicts me (even in my FDL (especially my FDL because it has no cargo bay)), I have a very simple list:
1. During interdiction, choose a high wake and put 2 pips to shields and 4 pips to engines
2. Fight interdiction
3. If losing, submit
4. RUN LIKE HELL
5. High wake
Always, always, ALWAYS run from another commander. Most of the ones interdicting non cargo ships have tons of mods and tons of skill. Since I don't have Horizons, unlike many people, I always assume the enemy commander has mods, and that any resistance in my FDL against their super tank FAS, or ultra maneuverable Vulture, or etc. is futile. Better to repair 250K damage than kiss 4M goodbye. So if there's a clan version in which FDev has disabled engineering I'd sign right up. Fighting chance 100% of the time, that's better than .001%.
Hehheh....
I play on a $200 computer. I already had an old as dirt Sidewinder Precision 2 joystick.
Dual core Pentium, Intel graphics, 500GB SSD (bought separately), 4GB RAM.
10fps orbiting planets, ~33fps in SC, ~25-28 in RES/fights, 30fps when docking. All on minimum graphics at 1280x720
People like the idea of skill > equipment, especially in a game with a high skill ceiling like this one.
Sorry but your suggestions won't happen for now. There has always been a gap between PvP in Open play and PvE in Group/Solo. PvP often won out thus PvE players had to deal with many nerfs to their style of game play. The Engineers actually fixed that as PvE can upgrade their ships for their needs and PvP has access to awesome weapons with their style of play. The negative is one will have to seriously upgrade their ship to be competitive in Open. The option is also with Groups from no combat to intense wing/jousting sessions covering the play styles of many. It really works out for everyone except those wanting to change the game per their own needs versus looking at all the opportunities available. Just one opinion.
The engineers arent needed for pve, as one can see from the "NPC's are too easy" threads that appear here. Engineers mods break the balance of pve and turn pvp into a crapshoot rather than a contest of skill. The engineers was meant to appease those who cant succeed in the game any other way imo, those who need training wheels.
The only thing that is stopping many, myself among them, from pursuing pvp in ED (and i have enjoyed it in other sims) is the engineers, an environment that excluded engineers mods would result in more people flying in open and engaging in pvp.
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Yes indeed. Also if it was one system as the OP proposes it would serve as a magnet for those seeking un-RNG-ineered PvP. We'd have a busy system, regulars, newcomers. We could store a ton of ships there and change our builds up at will.
It sounds pretty close to Nirvana to me but frankly I fear that FDev's Fun Police will think otherwise ...
I think it would be a blast
but FD has shot themselves in the foot with the engineers and seem committed to bleeding out.
Heh, my laptop performance is about the same. I still run horizons on it!
I just don't go near planets on my laptop.
(I know, it's pointless!)
Would being able to see if a ships module is modded be a bad thing?
No exact details, but just the hexagon mod icon next to any module that's not standard, once the ship is scanned.
That would A) allow easy moderation of modless PvP.
B) give the general community an idea of what they're up against.
Yeah, this would be a small tweak but a really helpful one.
EDIT: I've actually put it in the suggestions forum here ...
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-the-hex-icon-to-the-left-panel-on-basic-scan
... hope you don't mind me poaching your idea - if you'd like credit for it, tell me and I'll add it into the Opening post!
o7
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No worries, saves me a job!
I'm pretty sure I'm on FDevs ignore list anyway for spamming ideas all day everyday.
No worries, saves me a job!
I'm pretty sure I'm on FDevs ignore list anyway for spamming ideas all day everyday.
Lol, I have added an identical request for Premium/Standard ammo to show up also.
This info already appears to us concerning our own ships via the relevant icons in the right panel, it's really just a case of requesting that those icons start to become visible in the left panel too.