Is a non-affiliated Jurassic Park game possible at Frontier? Lets Talk

The 2021 "major global IP" game is going to be based on what I just said, "a major global IP". It's a game that, whomever Frontier Developments signed a new contract with on March 06, 2019, will be based on an existing big global IP for both PC and console platforms between June and December of that year during the first half of Financial Year 2022 (FY22) for the London Stock exchange. Jurassic World seems like a likely candidate for a number of good reasons, but there are some catches there.

The contract they've acquired with Universal Pictures back in February of 2017 to develop with the Jurassic IP is said to continue for "over fifteen years" as accordingly to Frontier Chief Creative Officer, Jonny Watts in a London Stock Exchange article describing the announcement of the game. NOW, this doesn't mean, I repeat, DOES NOT MEAN they will continue adding stuff to Jurassic World Evolution for that long, it just means Frontier will be able to work with Universal and the game itself as accordingly to the contract until then or unless the contract becomes lost. If Frontier did wanted a second game based on Jurassic World, all they would need to do is pitch the idea to Universal, wait for approval, and there you go. No new contract is needed unless something goes wrong or so, but both parties have a very good relation, and the existence of JWE in social media and official sites wouldn't be still standing if that contract was lost.

But what about extending the year life of the relationship with a renewal contract?

Well, there is absolutely zero doubt this can happen with them at some point with any associated third-party they're involved with, as it has with Electronic Arts with the National Football League (NFL) third-party from 15 years (2005-2020) to 21 years (2005-2026) as of this past May for example.
HOWEVER, from what I can share in words as of now, there's no sign of an extension with Universal to work on more JP/JW games especially when contracts like these can actually last for many many years in advance.

All the evidence I've been able to personally find as to what this game is its something else entirely. The UK magazine website, Shares Magazine, made an article around that same time has publicly shared business info from well informed finnCap Ltd (an investment bank and corporate institutional stockbroker/share holder company) representative says that the new IP contract belongs to someone else that also has an existing fanbase.

The Jurassic IP has only one current owner which is Universal Pictures, subsidiary company of the public company, Comcast. How can there be two to make a second JW game?

The Ghostbusters DLC for Planet Coaster that came to be later after the new contract from 2019 would not be able to exist unless Frontier has an actual contract with Columbia/Sony Pictures. Contracts can be strict when they need to be, and everybody on both sides need to follow them as accordingly, or else there would be major consequences. Planet Coaster's three Universal IP based DLCs came after the contract needed to make JWE to begin with after that initial 2017 Hollywood IP acquirement announcement that February.

If this FY22 2021 game truly is something else, based on an existing big IP, I have multiple ideas of what it could be, none of which are prehistoric animal related in any way or shape or form. I could share them here right now, including what I've found about the initial leaks back in the Spring of last year, but I would rather wait until next week. Frontier Developments' new games are generally announced/revealed more so at Gamescom events that happen every August, and this year's event will commence digitally (due to COVID-19 pandemic quarantine measures) next week.
So, "hopefully", it will be announced as to what it is by then, but I would also consider on the week days before the starting day of the event, just as how JWE was announced two days before the start of the 2017 Gamescom event that same week.
 
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It has been brought up on the subreddit that Frontier now have a Formula 1 contract for multiple games in the years ahead (it'll be an interesting new group to bring to the forums for sure), I do believe it was a much more recent signing though.

But yeah, we wouldn't find out about a non-licenced game this way, I don't think it's legal for them to fake deals with themselves, if anything that would be toying with the stock market.

If you ascribe to the leak from early 2019, there is supposedly a Jurassic World survival game on the table, but it does claim that this IP contract is intended to be the sequel to JWE.

The contract they've acquired with Universal Pictures back in February of 2017 to develop with the Jurassic IP is said to continue for "over fifteen years" as accordingly to Frontier Chief Creative Officer, Jonny Watts in a London Stock Exchange article describing the announcement of the game. NOW, this doesn't mean, I repeat, DOES NOT MEAN they will continue adding stuff to Jurassic World Evolution for that long, it just means Frontier will be able to work with Universal and the game itself as accordingly to the contract until then or unless the contract becomes lost. If Frontier did wanted a second game based on Jurassic World, all they would need to do is pitch the idea to Universal, wait for approval, and there you go. No new contract is needed unless something goes wrong or so, but both parties have a very good relation, and the existence of JWE in social media and official sites wouldn't be still standing if that contract was lost.

It seems a bit weird that they'd make a 15 year contract and not future proof it to include other games (though that Jurassic world survival game might even be part of the old cantract if it's a thing), though it does sort of fit with the weird lack of confidence Universal seems to have when it comes to Jurassic selling well with older audiences.
 
If you ascribe to the leak from early 2019, there is supposedly a Jurassic World survival game on the table, but it does claim that this IP contract is intended to be the sequel to JWE.
May I even include that, as of this past May, a similar story was brought up that kinda relates to the very first 2019 Spring leak. It claimed that they would be working on a real-time strategy game of "Man vs Machine and LEGO Star Wars." By May of 2020, it's publicly revealed that Frontier have begun making a real-time strategy game but, is based on Warhammer Age of Sigmar. Now, I'm not saying the two stories are connected in any way or shape or form, but it's still important to know all the available details that come over time to get to the bottom of what is going on here.

It seems a bit weird that they'd make a 15 year contract and not future proof it to include other games (though that Jurassic world survival game might even be part of the old cantract if it's a thing), though it does sort of fit with the weird lack of confidence Universal seems to have when it comes to Jurassic selling well with older audiences.
They don't have to say they will be working on other stuff that will be part of the contract, because anything can happen over time. If they say they will be working on more stuff with the third-party than what the contract shares when no actual plans are made just yet, there's risk right there. They just have to pitch ideas to Universal and, if the latter approves, then former will gladly do them with their collaboration.
 
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You know, Frontier did post a teaser picture on their official Twitter account about a couple of hours ago today. They confirmed in the following minutes after the initial post that it's a teaser for something coming without specifying what it is in any way while also, minutes ago from this post, confirming it's not related to any of their current four titles.

At first, I thought it was something Elite Dangerous related due to the mug at the bottom of the picture having the logo as well as being retweeted by the official Elite Dangerous Twitter account. Now, however, that doesn't seem like so.

I'm currently unable to figure out what it may relate to, but something tells me it's something that will be announced very soon sometime this week. If I had to make a best guess, it's something related to their FY22 2021 "major global IP game". But, I don't want to get too exited on that just yet, because what if it isn't at the end of the day?

 
You know, Frontier did post a teaser picture on their official Twitter account about a couple of hours ago today. They confirmed in the following minutes after the initial post that it's a teaser for something coming without specifying what it is in any way while also, minutes ago from this post, confirming it's not related to any of their current four titles.

At first, I thought it was something Elite Dangerous related due to the mug at the bottom of the picture having the logo as well as being retweeted by the official Elite Dangerous Twitter account. Now, however, that doesn't seem like so.

I'm currently unable to figure out what it may relate to, but something tells me it's something that will be announced very soon sometime this week. If I had to make a best guess, it's something related to their FY22 2021 "major global IP game". But, I don't want to get too exited on that just yet, because what if it isn't at the end of the day?
I've sort of tentatively come to the conclusion of it being related to Godzilla vs. Kong. The lineup does match up pretty well, assuming everything is supposed to be a clue, but it's pretty well a case of Toho having done basically everything giant monster wise over the last 70 years (they also don't really seem to trust people that much with their properties, which is potentially problematic to the theory).

The things most supportive of the theory are the graph on the computer (being a mirrored graph crossing over itself, with the Monsterverse being a crossover) and the radioactive material (being a big thing for godzilla and a few other Toho monsters).

The things least supportive of it are the Cactus (though there is actually a Toho monster called Gororin that is literally a rolling cactus, but it's not exactly in high demand I don't think), the cell division post-it note (though regeneration is a big part of Toho monsters) and the elite dangerous mug (though quite a few Toho monsters come from space, like King Ghidorah and Megalon).
 

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Now, Frontier have uploaded a new photo, which is an updated version of the previous one.
Hmmmm

The laboratory, has party stuff in storage....

I am looking forward for the confetti to be used within the next few days. 🎊

And I see a planet zoo logo. Think this could be another planet series game? Or is it just the order of release. I am looking forward to the reveal :D

And the blueprint has a duck....
 
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Hmmmm

The laboratory, has party stuff in storage....

I am looking forward for the confetti to be used within the next few days. 🎊

And I see a planet zoo logo. Think this could be another planet series game? Or is it just the order of release. I am looking forward to the reveal :D

And the blueprint has a duck....
Well... Whatever this "game" really is, I know it's something big.
 
I'm loving all the guesses about the thing in the jar/tank. None of it is correct and I'm incredibly excited to see how people react to the reveal!
I'm sure we'll all be kicking ourselves when it is. Who knows, the next one (assuming there is one) could make all the difference in someone getting a close guess.
 
I feel like Frontier are teasing their schedule for Gamescom in these pics. Pic one is what they will show on day one: e.g. something new about their current game franchises like Elite Dangerous and JWE. Day 2 will have info on Planet Zoo. BOTH days will have info on their new IP which I think is very intriguing...... it's a bit outlandish but my guess is something completely non-dino related (unfortunately for those of us excited about a potential JWE2). I'm seeing a 90's theme in terms time-setting, green radioactive material, a couple of interesting characters watching over an experimental vat, a rat's tail in the drawer and what could be a brain/early stage of a creatures development in the green vat?

No idea what the cactus and duck things are about, but I think Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles could be the IP?
 
No idea what the cactus and duck things are about, but I think Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles could be the IP?
Technically maybe, looking on turtlepedia (https://turtlepedia.fandom.com/wiki/Mutants) there is a Cactus mutant (Thorny) and a duck mutant (Ace Duck) only known from toys and another duck mutant (Oily bird) only known from a comic series. It might be a bit of them having done basically everything, but it does feel like a closer fit generally.
 
I feel like Frontier are teasing their schedule for Gamescom in these pics. Pic one is what they will show on day one: e.g. something new about their current game franchises like Elite Dangerous and JWE. Day 2 will have info on Planet Zoo. BOTH days will have info on their new IP which I think is very intriguing...... it's a bit outlandish but my guess is something completely non-dino related (unfortunately for those of us excited about a potential JWE2). I'm seeing a 90's theme in terms time-setting, green radioactive material, a couple of interesting characters watching over an experimental vat, a rat's tail in the drawer and what could be a brain/early stage of a creatures development in the green vat?

No idea what the cactus and duck things are about, but I think Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles could be the IP?
Gamescom is tomorrow, and Frontier has a lot of new stuff on their hands. Elite Dangerous has a new major DLC that's coming up at Q1 of 2021, and while they did anounce it "further" at the live PC Gamer event on June, they may do more of it there as it was just talk and the trailer, not so much of exploring it further in-game wise. Planet Coaster has a major release for consoles for the Holiday season of 2020 which hasn't been explored much of yet in in-game terms and may do so there. When Planet Zoo was announced at last year's Spring, it was further explored than ever before at the Gamescom 2019 event via in-game.

Gamescom is the place that generally explores the new games/major expansions before release sometime afterwards before the next event a year later.

While the Planet Zoo logo is shown on the second picture, I'm not sure if the game really will be a part of Gamescom, unless it's something much bigger than what other kinds of post-launch development content it's currently receiving. There is an empty DLC slot in it's SteamDB page by the way, IF that really means anything for Gamescom, which usually doesn't with Frontier.

I actually have an idea of what kind of IP owner Frontier have signed the contract with based on what's happened in the past year and a half and what I've studied about how the industry works in the most basic sense. It's only a matter of finding out what IP it is to confirm or disprove all of that which I know now will be during the Gamescom event, BECAUSE of this final tease below posted earlier today: Another updated version of the previous two photos.
 
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The mystery has been solved!

The game is called Struggling, it’s a co-op game for the Nintendo Switch that will release tomorrow.

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-Switch-download-software/Struggling-1823589.html
As it turns out, it really is the game known as Struggling. A game developed by Chasing Rats Games Inc. Frontier Developments are just the publisher, nothing more on that.
However, this is not the FY22 2021 "major global IP game" Frontier signed a contract for as I previously speculated above. But, this does not mean it may not be shown at Gamescom later on. There are a few other new stuff of theirs they haven't really talked about by the way, including their Switch port of JWE. It was shown in the pre-show, yes, but not "further" as it would have.
 
Frontier Developments have announced two indie games from two respective smaller third-party developers. One of which, Struggling, is already out and published. Frontier, believe it or not, have been planning several third-party game publishes since 2019, and they even shared such information in past official publicly posted articles, including their confirmed project with Haemimont Games whom which they've publicly shared they've signed a contract with a year ago. Two are for FY21 (beginning of June 2020, to the end of May 2021), which are Struggling and Lemnis Gate, both revealed at Gamescom 2020, and three more unannounced games for FY22 (beginning of June 2021, to the end of May 2022).

However, while both third-party league games for this financial year and the Jurassic World Evolution port were announced at Gamescom 2020, after realizing yesterday they had a showcase schedule for each event day for this year's event, and finding out how the showcases worked with the unannounced stuff, I was wrong about the other stuff Frontier have when it comes to showcasing their other new stuff there. It's not inherent that similar stuff like what they did in past Gamescom events always gets showcased there, so I knew there was a chance of any of that not happening.

That also means the FY22 2021 "major global IP game", where all these rumors are centered on, has not been announced yet, and will not so for the rest of this year’s Gamescom.
So now, it's still a matter of knowing when exactly it will be announced and what it really is.
 
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