Is ED nearing the end of its lifespan?

But of course are concrete informations or statements conveyed via video a waste of time! This is just as true for influencers as it is for these weekly livestreams. You just have to pick one of them and translate it into text. The time it takes to read the text is usually a fraction of the time it takes to watch the video. So if you don't want to do that, all you see is the headline. And then, of course, if I find that it contradicts the content, I thank the person who saved me this nonsense by briefly summarising the essence of the video or stream.

And about the "hundreds and even thousands" of players... I can't care less. I'm a solo player who wants the game to finally come up with some real content that can also convince a solo player. I can make up stuff by my own, I don't need a community for that. Whatever people do or who leaves the game or not, it simply doesn't affect me directly - and never has. If anything, it's FDev's problem, not mine.

I'm in agreement especially regarding it being FDev problem, but should the developers not be taking notice of the 'needs' of the community? Should the developers simply ignore the community? Why exactly do we have a community here? I mean there are others on other sites, which have no sway here. I'm with you on the whole 'solo player' thing, I am the exact same. Thousands of hours at this stage. I pretty much ignore reddit and the other fluff stuff, and come here, the developer's community, for news and comment.

As for who leaves the game or not, I think that's an especially important thing. If lots leave, then the servers run the risk of being shut down due to lack of interest. And, truth be told, it's not that they lacked interest, it's that the developer ignored them, so they lost interest.

Anyways, o7
 
"The super tanker is pointing nearly in the right direction.."
What does that even mean?

It means:

a) Odyssey didn't go very well and Frontier are trying to turn it around.
b) Elite Dangerous was going in a specific direction, and the intent of Odyssey was to change Elite into a different game.
c) It's costing Frontier time, money and effort that will be worth it in the long run.
d) Something we can't guess at. :)
 
I'm in agreement especially regarding it being FDev problem, but should the developers not be taking notice of the 'needs' of the community? Should the developers simply ignore the community? Why exactly do we have a community here? I mean there are others on other sites, which have no sway here. I'm with you on the whole 'solo player' thing, I am the exact same. Thousands of hours at this stage. I pretty much ignore reddit and the other fluff stuff, and come here, the developer's community, for news and comment.

Anyways, o7
That would be easy if the community were united...... but we are not (and that is fine and fully understandable).

Some players play this game for the coop MP
Some players play it for PvP MP
some play it for the solo experience.
some play for the VR (yours truly included its the main reason i am still around)

My view is all this listen to the community stuff.... imo they should listen to their own design decisions and go from there....... there is so much untapped gold there. FD used to have a really strong vision of where they wanted the game to go, and for what ever reason it seems to have veered off massively.

imo they dont need to listen to the players (myself included) other than to find out what is not working..... they just need to honour their own development plan.
They also need to finish what they start.. how many features have come to elite and then seemingly been "right lads box ticked lets move on". There are tons of features which must have taken a lot of time but rather than be treated as a base to build on, are just left to wither on the vine............. the features need to be meshed into the game more and better fleshed out imo.


if they can do that then imo they wont go too far wrong.
 
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Oh, and for anyone not aware, the livestream today seems to put to bed any idea that the game is in maintenance mode.

It's alive! New stuff coming throughout the year. Mini-roadmap released, "story progression" seems to also include some super-secret stuff that's really also content, that they wouldn't discuss b/c it's secret.

Promising IMO. I'm pleased.
 
Oh, and for anyone not aware, the livestream today seems to put to bed any idea that the game is in maintenance mode.

It's alive! New stuff coming throughout the year. Mini-roadmap released, "story progression" seems to also include some super-secret stuff that's really also content, that they wouldn't discuss b/c it's secret.

Promising IMO. I'm pleased.
I couldn't disagree more. From today's livestream, it appears to be VERY MUCH in maintenance mode - there was absolutely NOTHING in there other than some basic stability stuff. D2EA just posted a video suggesting exactly the same - exact quote: "Elite is a dying game and I don't see this thing surviving beyond 2022".
 
I couldn't disagree more. From today's livestream, it appears to be VERY MUCH in maintenance mode - there was absolutely NOTHING in there other than some basic stability stuff. D2EA just posted a video suggesting exactly the same - exact quote: "Elite is a dying game and I don't see this thing surviving beyond 2022".

Yeah its very thin on the ground. Not sure how anyone can come to the conclusion the road ahead is all rosy with that so-called road map. It contains virtually nothing (console news aside, which is the big and only positive).

Not dead, and maybe not exactly in maintenance mode, but not far off if that's the best we can look forward to.
 

Viajero

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D2EA just posted a video suggesting exactly the same - exact quote: "Elite is a dying game and I don't see this thing surviving beyond 2022".
Well, there has been doom clickbait titles like that from Elite content creators probably for a few years already. What is a few more? At some point they will eventually get it right I suppose? 🤷‍♂️ In the mean time, please keep clicking in these juicy dooms here.
 
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Oh, and for anyone not aware, the livestream today seems to put to bed any idea that the game is in maintenance mode.
I would agree with this, technically.

It's alive!
So is a 100 year old man in his rocking chair, but that's radically different than a 30-something running a marathon. Elite kinda feels that old man right now..

New stuff coming throughout the year.
Yes, and this is why I agree it's not in maintenance mode. Though I don't count bug fixes and performance improvements as new things. Bugs fixes and performance improvements are maintenance. But there does seem to be something "big" (at least in Arthur's opinion) coming in not only how the story is told, but also played, and that perked my curiosity.

Mini-roadmap released,
Yeah, and just like the "fog of war" in video game maps, it really doesn't say much except, "Over here (see finger) there's something waiting for you."

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Promising IMO. I'm pleased.
I'm underwhelmed, but not in a "The game is DOOMED" sort of way. Let's just say that I am WAY more excited about updates coming to one of my other space games than what ever is behind "door number three" for Elite. Of course it helps that I have a good idea of what's coming to that other game - truly revolutionary new and exciting gameplay 🤗
 
I don't know about Elite... But I'm nearing the end of my lifespan as an Elite player. :(
Yeah. There seems to be a good number of people simply losing patience with how this game is being managed.
Akin to a bad almost bordering on abusive relationship, but between Frontier and playerbase. Forever Promising. But Just tiresome.
Nothing that has been announced today will help to keep disheartened Cmdrs in the game.

Flimley
 
That would be easy if the community were united...... but we are not (and that is fine and fully understandable).

Some players play this game for the coop MP
Some players play it for PvP MP
some play it for the solo experience.
some play for the VR (yours truly included its the main reason i am still around)

My view is all this listen to the community stuff.... imo they should listen to their own design decisions and go from there....... there is so much untapped gold there. FD used to have a really strong vision of where they wanted the game to go, and for what ever reason it seems to have veered off massively.

imo they dont need to listen to the players (myself included) other than to find out what is not working..... they just need to honour their own development plan.
They also need to finish what they start.. how many features have come to elite and then seemingly been "right lads box ticked lets move on". There are tons of features which must have taken a lot of time but rather than be treated as a base to build on, are just left to wither on the vine............. the features need to be meshed into the game more and better fleshed out imo.


if they can do that then imo they wont go too far wrong.

Some fair comments there Commander. The problem I see with them following their own design decisions is that invariably they get it wrong. The failure to complete is a huge problem, it always seems (to me at least) the least viable product. And in most cases, introduces more bugs than fixes. And for me at least, their worst problem are their 'hide mechanics' regarding bugs. Claiming it's not a bug because it was voted out (or just not voted for as being important right now) does not mean it is not a bug.

Anyways, o7
 
Short answer: Yes. Not out of arrogance, but out of the realisation that the ED community is highly fragmented. There is no such thing as a "unified community" and this is something that many of us seem to find difficult to recognise from within. Probably because it is still very easy to get caught up in filter bubbles here, where it is all too easy to fall for the illusion of unity. Consistent solo players are naturally largely immune to this.

Without derailing, solo players are what they are for certain reasons. Some just want solo solo solo. Some want to/would play with others if they didn't have to be 'git gud fred' to do so...
 
Ok, I am very disappointed... I have no words for this. I must say, beside SC there is no other Space Game that had such a great idea and potential like ED but this stream today just showed me that this waiting game for content in games is just terrible!

We just have to wait for the next step that maybe a company will set and I hope that will be soon... the space games who tried to be as realistic as possible these days failed and will never bring the dreams they are selling!
With odyssey they got me back but no interest in another min. 2 years of waiting to see water on a planet where i can land, clouds or ship interiours... also a few insects in fixed places on a ground CZ can´t make that better (my guess for the narrative content).
 
Oh, and for anyone not aware, the livestream today seems to put to bed any idea that the game is in maintenance mode.

It's alive! New stuff coming throughout the year. Mini-roadmap released, "story progression" seems to also include some super-secret stuff that's really also content, that they wouldn't discuss b/c it's secret.

Promising IMO. I'm pleased.
Just optimisations and stories, which to date mostly is just text on Galnet.

There no new features, no new objects for us to explore, no promises of new ships or armour or weapons. no new terrain or planet features, basically nothing apart from one new mission type. This is poor even by Frontier standards. It no wonder their no dev diaries because there doesn't appear to be much in the way of dev worked planned.
 
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