"Key Feature Overhaul" is odyssey only and no more horizons
Is ED nearing the end of its lifespan?
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Next paid DLC? Being Odyssey missing economical intended targets? Or the next paid DLC is even lesser and cheaper as a DLC than Odyssey, to adapt expenses to the current reassessment of probable income of the new DLC, or it will never come arround. The best scenary in my opinion, is a new Elite Dangerous 2 with a new engine in at least 5-6 years. At least.
Frontier is going to priorize again working for others IPs, because they'll get surely more profit for the expenses doing that. That's the difference with Hello Games those previous years, and the reason behind the mediocrity since some years we have in Elite.
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I too am beginning to thing ED2 may be the best way forward for the game..... it would be unlikely to be a new engine however. All FD games run on, and have always run on a version of their cobra engine going back to Elite 2 Frontier.
FD said Elite Dangerous would be their last Elite game back in KSer and that the game would get contunuous major paid overhauls. I do think this was a mistake to state this but at the time i think they were desperate for funding and wanted people to go into lifetime DLC tiers.
also from a purely personal POV given FDs views on VR now, i would be nervous of ED2........ as i dont think they would support VR in it if they went that road.
FD said Elite Dangerous would be their last Elite game back in KSer and that the game would get contunuous major paid overhauls. I do think this was a mistake to state this but at the time i think they were desperate for funding and wanted people to go into lifetime DLC tiers.
also from a purely personal POV given FDs views on VR now, i would be nervous of ED2........ as i dont think they would support VR in it if they went that road.
I think its pretty funny how most of the cmdrs here seem to interpret the narrative content in a completely negative way.
If it were Galnet, or a CG, or anything other insignificant - like a new crashed ship site, it would most likely not be up there on the list, they've been doing this for months now, so why put it up for august and not for may.
Narrative content in the sense arthur mentioned it on stream yesterday, seems to rather be stuff like prior to the return of the thargoids. Which were guardian ruins, later on AX weaponry, guardian modules and slfs, ships etc. While I wouldn't count on any of that big stuff before the " conclusion" in november, which is quite obviously thargoids on foot, new locations might pop up, new things to explore and so on. This I believe to be highly likely.
I get why fdev doesn't elaborate further on this, since this would be heavy spoiler stuff, but I guess a little clarification in written form like: "this wont be just Galnet but real new explorable content" wouldn't have hurt, but oh well here we are.
The last months have been disappointing, but I have to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.
If it were Galnet, or a CG, or anything other insignificant - like a new crashed ship site, it would most likely not be up there on the list, they've been doing this for months now, so why put it up for august and not for may.
Narrative content in the sense arthur mentioned it on stream yesterday, seems to rather be stuff like prior to the return of the thargoids. Which were guardian ruins, later on AX weaponry, guardian modules and slfs, ships etc. While I wouldn't count on any of that big stuff before the " conclusion" in november, which is quite obviously thargoids on foot, new locations might pop up, new things to explore and so on. This I believe to be highly likely.
I get why fdev doesn't elaborate further on this, since this would be heavy spoiler stuff, but I guess a little clarification in written form like: "this wont be just Galnet but real new explorable content" wouldn't have hurt, but oh well here we are.
The last months have been disappointing, but I have to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.
the narrative stuff really could be anything..... will it be live service stuff? so once it is done it is done, or will it be stuff embedded in the game to add to the over all experience for everyone regardless of when you play it..... if it is the former then for me..... "meh" if it is the latter then "yay".
i still keep thinking back to those voiced character mission videos which were found in the code a year or so back.
i still keep thinking back to those voiced character mission videos which were found in the code a year or so back.
Well, they've looked up 'narrative content' in the dictionary, where it says "content not requiring significant investment in actual game development".
If it were actual content Frontier wouldn't need to bother with the qualifier 'narrative'.
The biggest expense with ED is operational costs for the server architecture. I would like to see an annual statement from FD. Furthermore, there are also costs for personnel, new technology and development. These are also not to be underestimated. I think a big problem is the exclusion of Odyssey for consoles. With that, Frontier would have brought back many inactive players and brought in new players as well. Unfortunately, this decision will cost FD's ED dearly in the near future. (Despite console transfers)
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Interesting prediction. They keep being pushed back. Hope you still around next year to check it out?
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Cool with a direct personal attack there =)
Isn't this entire thread made for naysayers? The title itself is a gold ticket invitation, LOL.
The question is not whether someone is naysaying, the question is whether what they are saying has some substance or not.
The title question was that, yes. But the post asks,Well the question was answered its not dead or dying. I guess we'll go about our business until this question rears its ugly head after the next update
I still don't see a clear answer to this. I will grant you that Frontier at least is trying, since the roadmap (foggy of war as it is) does talk about more improvements to get Elite into a "good state", but I do honestly wonder if the "code is just too broken to be fixed" regarding performance, bugs, fleet carriers ruining the system map, etc. I don't think we'll have that answer until these updates actually go live.
The OP also seems to imply that "dead" is not Frontier pulling the plug on the server, but rather dead is the game not being fixed to a state that he and others consider it worth playing. So on the servers are running side, Elite is alive and well and will continue to be for at least another two years if all goes according to plan. On the "I really want to play this game right now" side, it's "code blue" to me, but that can change with any of these updates or a really cool development in the narrative with associated gameplay. I'm definitely not ready to bury the game yet, but I do hope someone at Frontier is charging the paddles!
Perhaps it is the update that unites the clients to the EDO version and they don't wish to upset a couple of players too soon?
For some it may be interpreted as "Key Feature Removal"?
Ah! Switching OFF the servers! Right!
Sorry, I couldn't resist it! I really must stop having fun at the expense of the disillusioned! Just not today
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Using the most absolute terms, "dead" to me is not being able to play it on my computer. For example, TIE Fighter is pretty much a dead game to me, as my version is on floppy disk. But even then, I am pretty sure I can still download the game and play it.
Everything above that baseline becomes rather subjective; the most tender souls might find a lack of new paint jobs to be the sign of impending doom, for example.
Everything above that baseline becomes rather subjective; the most tender souls might find a lack of new paint jobs to be the sign of impending doom, for example.
It's nearing the beginning of the end I'd say.
Even Down to Earth Astronomy just talked about it.
There's nothing really new being developed. Some much need optimization sure but the rest is narrative? Narrative is basically just coming up with stories. It requires virtually no development.
Are the new ships? New FPS enemies? New alien species to discover out there in the 400 billion star systems? Are they developing anything new and remarkable?
Doesn't seem like it. They left a 400 billion star system galaxy to basically rot.
Even Down to Earth Astronomy just talked about it.
There's nothing really new being developed. Some much need optimization sure but the rest is narrative? Narrative is basically just coming up with stories. It requires virtually no development.
Are the new ships? New FPS enemies? New alien species to discover out there in the 400 billion star systems? Are they developing anything new and remarkable?
Doesn't seem like it. They left a 400 billion star system galaxy to basically rot.
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I've had my 'key features overhauled' before, and it gave me the FSS, so I'm withholding judgment on whether this item constitutes a plus
