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I know, I know, the post is really old, but I had this... itch... of just needing to add my thoughts. I apologise for disturbing the dead 
Is Elite Dangerous a reboot of EVE Online?
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I know, I know, the post is really old, but I had this... itch... of just needing to add my thoughts. I apologise for disturbing the dead 
<grins> There are several candidates for a narco-thread... <nods off>
I'm so sorry but i couldn't resist.
OMG I just realised that I wrote narco instead of necro - must have been all those smuggling missions.
Indeed EVE has far more content. But EVE has been around for what? 10 years? (edit: 12 actually, I just checked)
Elite is just beginning. And they're not even the same kind of game, in EVE you don't even fly the ships in a first person view cockpit perspective, just click on some icons and watch the ship do stuff by itself.
When Elite is around for 10 years, we can make a fair comparison.
What EVE has that is clearly better is not being limited by a P2P design and by instancing with a maximum of 32 players (in theory, as I have never seen more than a dozen at the same time).
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+rep for pointing out that Eve is an old game, while Elite Dangerous is still just a wittle itty bitty baby.
Holy necro!
well ok, in an attempt to put this thread to rest ill make a reply.
ED is not a reboot of EvE, but EvE from its start is a reboot of 1984 Elite.
while i have not yet met David Braben or any of the other FD Dev's i do have spent allot of time whit the CCP Dev's, and they have explained to me that when they started the development of Eve the intentions was to make a direct interpretation of 1984 Elite whit Ultima Online mechanics on top of it. they also received David's blessing for doing it.
and when the game first launched it was just exactly that. it had all the elements of the first Elite whit trading, mining, missions and hostile npc's in a multiplayer universe, and very little else.
but that was back in 2003, and the game has since grown into its own beast.
the two games might not be "sisters", but i think they very well could be called "cousins"
well ok, in an attempt to put this thread to rest ill make a reply.
ED is not a reboot of EvE, but EvE from its start is a reboot of 1984 Elite.
while i have not yet met David Braben or any of the other FD Dev's i do have spent allot of time whit the CCP Dev's, and they have explained to me that when they started the development of Eve the intentions was to make a direct interpretation of 1984 Elite whit Ultima Online mechanics on top of it. they also received David's blessing for doing it.
and when the game first launched it was just exactly that. it had all the elements of the first Elite whit trading, mining, missions and hostile npc's in a multiplayer universe, and very little else.
but that was back in 2003, and the game has since grown into its own beast.
the two games might not be "sisters", but i think they very well could be called "cousins"
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tried it 10 days in and finally got a third ship for mining and was killed by a so called pirate... fast forward 30 minutes later in a different area im killed again by the same person.
i like how elite dangerous gave us tools to still play with internet people but at the same time avoid others.
now if we got more ship variety this game for me would be golden
modded t9 that can drag destroyed hulls into it for salvage ect.
i like how elite dangerous gave us tools to still play with internet people but at the same time avoid others.
now if we got more ship variety this game for me would be golden
modded t9 that can drag destroyed hulls into it for salvage ect.
As Araviel said, original EVE was partially insipired by early Elites (CCP said that), but then EVE took very different path, emphasizing player interactions and encouraging conflict between player groups that can grow very, very large. Looking from this point, you could almost tell that the only thing in common for these two games is that they take place in space.
Elite's strongest points are that you're actually piloting your ship, and of course huuuuge universe. Everything else is on the EVE's side. But who knows how will ED look like in, say 5 or 6 years.
Elite's strongest points are that you're actually piloting your ship, and of course huuuuge universe. Everything else is on the EVE's side. But who knows how will ED look like in, say 5 or 6 years.
Elite is very different from EVE - EVE is focused on player created, owned content, Elite pretty much opposite. Elite is still at its core about lonely pilot, and EVE is all about giant clans/player groups.
Don't get me wrong. I loved playing Elite back on the school BBCMicro and later on my Amiga. What worries me a little though is that alot of what Elite Dangerous seems to be offering is already catered for by the game EVE Online:
http://www.eveonline.com
Other than a possible single player option for E
p.s I have pledged my money via kickstarter this morning!
EVE was directly inspired by the original Elite; so I'd say EVE is a game inspired by Elite and Elite: Dangerous is a reboot of Elite.
Edit: I just realised I quoted a 3 year old post. Oops.
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Eve is one of the most boring gaming experiences I've ever endured. Spreadsheets in space! The training mechanic just makes me ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz. The third person view is like something from the 8bit era. With EvE you never forget you are sat at a PC on Earth.
I don't think I even got out of training - the point and click threw me completely.
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I posted the above two years ago in this thread. At that time my vision of Elite Dangerous was that of the kickstarter and Dev Diaries, David Brabens AMA etc. Since release ED has become a very different game. I am afraid my criticisms of EVE are more and more applicable to ED. Divergence from good game vision, bizzare feature-creep, community nonsense and meta gaming, but in a bad way.
In fact I didn't think I would ever say this but I could praise CCP over FD for sticking to their vision a lot more closely than FD, through strong player led attempts to change things for the worse, CCP did cave-in more than I would have liked but nowhere near to the extent that FD have, much to the game's detriment. There was a lesson to be learned here that was not learned.
Before it's decline, EVE became a great game due to CCP daring to stick to their vision. ED has declined before the vision was even seriously attempted. I only hope that FD can raise it from the ashes if it is not too late.
I just don't recognise this as happening with ED where it is. The vision remains intact from where I sit, albeit skeleton as of now, with features beyond original expectation but not diverse from it, still being constructed (we can't yet approach planets at all). Loss of the original vision might be people's fear but I just don't see it happening in what's released, especially while it's (1) still very early days and (2) a coding operation (a modular skeleton ALLOWS all the nice things, people want to see later).
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