It's okay to just admit the truth, Picco
General / Off-Topic Is man made climate change real or not? Prove your belief here.
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'Sentinel for sea-level rise enters testing':
These things are expensive, so the reality of needing it speaks volumes over the coming decades re AGW.
Sentinel for sea-level rise enters testing
The satellite that will maintain the "gold standard" measurement of ocean height is nearly complete.
www.bbc.com
These things are expensive, so the reality of needing it speaks volumes over the coming decades re AGW.
Did this thread ever veer into Grand Solar Minimum arguments? Because it seems like the most appropriate form of climate change-related lunatic argument to have in a forum populated by Elite Dangerous fans.
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About time. I never trusted Jason data.'Sentinel for sea-level rise enters testing':
Sentinel for sea-level rise enters testing
The satellite that will maintain the "gold standard" measurement of ocean height is nearly complete.www.bbc.com
These things are expensive, so the reality of needing it speaks volumes over the coming decades re AGW.
The reason they sit in a sauna is to watch naked men and women rightThis sure matters for high virus psychology, but otherwise...
"helps to limit its replication but doesn't kill it"
A common misinterpretation why people with a cold sometimes sit in a sauna and expect this will do the trick.
An oven would be a more promising attempt.
joke aside sweating should be good to flush out harmful substances in your body, but I don’t know if it’s true.
"It" is what exactly? Our stance on vaccinations perhaps? Mandatory vaccination? Or some entirely else "it"?
"It" is the so called bio-waste detector, you are really confused man.
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Phew! I was afraid it was Pierre DelectoIt's okay to just admit the truth, Picco
Tell that to the parents who got a child with a brain damage, allegedly due to a vaccination.
I was doing some research on Measles vaccinations last year; the warning label of possible side effects must have been 5-6 pages of extremely small print long with problems ranging from mild to so horrifying you wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy. Hundreds of various side effects that have all happened to people, hence their inclusion in the paperwork. After reading through them I figured I'd rather take my chances with measles.
With all due respect to your 'research', the warning label of Aspirin (https://optiphar.com/uploads/products/leaflets/112863.pdf ) is eight pages of extremely small print with problems ranging from mild to so horrifying you wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy (including severe internal bleeding, acute kidney failure and gout). Side-effects refer not to things caused by the medication, but effects experienced by people using it. The rarest category is typically 1:10000 or 1:100000. Establishing a causal relation between events so rare is by definition pointless.
If you had done actual research you'd have analyzed the risk of contracting measles, the possible health hazards of it, the prevalence of each possible symptom and compared that with the actual prevalence of the various health risks of vaccination. You did not, because you aren't trained in it, and don't have the skills, knowledge or insight to even begin doing so. You simply do not know anything about any of this. You didn't 'do research', you saw scary words in a document and came up with a random conclusion based on ignorance.
Here is some fun stuff:
Hundreds of thousands of people in the US with measles before vaccination each year.The case-fatality rate is approximately 15%. Some form of residual neurologic damage occurs in as many as 25% of cases. How many have died due to vaccines in the last fifty years, and how does that relate to the expected FOUR MILLION deaths just due to measles alone you'd have had without vaccines?
Allegedly? Lol, that is like the #1 conspiracy theory word. Either back it up or get out of here. Its a never-ending story of vague claims, with zero support, being presented as absolute truth by people with no experience, training or skill in the topic involved. The biggest issue is not the lack of understanding, but the inability to consider one's limitations.
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Oh, a sample size of one, how significant.
Dont forget the 'allegedly', the last resort of the clueless.
The amount of smug, misguided self importance here on your part is pretty typical of the pseudo intellectual who thinks because he has some knowledge in one field he is somehow qualified to talk down to other people when in fact you know roughly as much as they do about the topic at hand; very little, and certainly not enough to draw anything beyond a common sense conclusion. That's fine, but you can save your smarm and false sense of superiority for someone who is impressed by it (hint: not me)
Not being a scientist, which nobody on this thread is btw, my only recourse is to read the warning labels and research what's online and make the best decisions possible for me and my family, pretty much the same as everyone else. And the amount of people who've A) contracted measles in my country and B) suffered particularly bad side effects related to the measles is less of a concern to me than a vaccination with a laundry list of side effects associated with it...and for your information, for someone to ingest aspirin in my home it would almost have to be a severed limb. When penicillin (and all other forms of antibiotic quit working in the next fifteen years give or take), it won't be because my family has been over-doing it, I can assure you. It'll be because of people like you.
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Ah yes, your usual defense: personal attacks without any kind of argument.
There are quite a few actual scientists here, you just aint one of them. Not sure why it is so hard for you to accept these basic facts. And your best recourse, when you are ignorant of a topic, is by listening to the consensus of those who are experts. But you seem simply unable to accept your own limitations and refuse to acknowledge the knowledge of those who have spend years acquiring it. Screw thousands of doctors and thousands of studies: the might Jason will know better than everyone else because he perused a 5 page document! In any case, based on this there is nothing to discuss: you refuse to engage in actual arguments and merely hurl insults at everyone who disagrees with your baseless opinions, again. Oh well.
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I don't start the personal attacks, and I certainly didn't start them with you. Your comments to me (and lysan, and probably a few others) are of the snotty variety that are only acceptable due to the lack of physical proximity between us, and I'm simply calling you out on them. You want to keep conversing with me? Then put some respect in your tone. If you can't or won't do that, then you aren't going to be getting any in return. Oh, and to that last part re scientists: all that matters here in this discussion is that YOU AREN'T ONE, get it?
We kunnen natuurlijk ook gewoon in een andere taal verder gaan, misschien dat het makkelijker is de juiste toon voor jou te vinden op deze manier. Overigens is het wel erg sneu om over 'toon' te beginnen wanneer je argumenten allemaal dood zijn en je geen poot meer hebt om op te staan. Maar dat is altijd hetzelfde: eerst een grote mond en daarna klagen over 'de toon'.
Oh, ik ben een wetenschappper. Officieel, of je kwetsbare ego dat aankan of niet.
Haha, okay Ian. That's just perfect
It's not wrong to ascribe a case of brain damage to a vaccination for measles.
It can happen rarely, at roughly 1/1000 th the rate of children who get the disease.
It is vastly better to have a population that is immunized - the data don't lie. That's an example of preparation for a disaster.
Which one of you guys is going to take credit for steering the conversation so far away from the original thread topic?
Of course, as I said it isn't about listing possibilities but about prevalence. But understanding that requires a rudimentary understanding of statistics, which is among the basic requirements of understanding scientific studies.
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