Just how big is space?????

[Dizzy B High]

Well theres a lot of posts on this forum, some folks really enjoying the fact that space is so big and it takes time to explore, sc from one star system to another and the like.

Other folks saying things take to long to get from one place to another.

I personally think ED is doing a magnificent job of managing the vast distances we travel, in a very balanced way.

I found this link, which i hope will put into perspective what 4 billion star systems is like.
In reality 4 billion star systems compared to the rest of the universe is pretty much nothing.

Its an awesome thing so go look at it regardless of your thoughts on travel times etc. its truly mindblowing!!!

*This


*And This


*These sites have nothing to do with me i just love it and want to share

 

[Tacheel]

To a lot of players:

You may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

 

[Joe Spivey]

Well theres a lot of posts on this forum, some folks really enjoying the fact that space is so big and it takes time to explore, sc from one star system to another and the like.

Other folks saying things take to long to get from one place to another.

I personally think ED is doing a magnificent job of managing the vast distances we travel, in a very balanced way.

I found this link, which i hope will put into perspective what 4 billion star systems is like.

Its an awesome thing so go look at it regardless of your thoughts on travel times etc. its truly mindblowing!!!

*This


*And This


*These sites have nothing to do with me i just love it and want to share

Just, wow!

 

[Xenith]

This game is doing a fine job of representing the vastness of space. I really don't want a series of linked 'rooms' as with other space games.

 

[RustiSwordz]

Our galaxy is vast, I'm not sure who said it but i read once that if there were a hundred or even a thousand Star trek level, warp capable races all around at the same time there would still be minimal chance they would meet. Each race would have millions of star systems to explore of their own!

 

[Bobbydylan]

Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

 

[Sargon]

I recall an Phil Donahue Show episode from the 70's (yes I used to watch Phil Donahue when I was 15)... The guest was Dr Carl Sagan. I'll never forget his explanation of how enormous space really is. It sent something like this.

"Imagine yourself standing blindfolded in the middle of a football playing field, holding one dart. Now imagine you could throw the dart as far as the eye could see. Imagine that in 5 random seats in that sports stadium there's a balloon. Now, while blindfolded, throw the dart guessing where there's a balloon with the intention to pop it.

The chance of you actually hitting one of the 5 balloons, is the same chance that a spacecraft traveling on a perfectly straight course FOREVER, has to run into something in space, be that a planet, a star or an asteroid.

Yes, space is VERY VERY empty and spread out."

This clip just may be on YouTube.. I'll need to go look see now..

Cheers!

 

[Georgio]

what I like about ED is how you gain an appreciation of just how vast space is.
I mean when I was a kid and watching the moon landings it took them something like six days to get to the moon which is what 250,000 km away? So is 1 light second or so?

Just travelling from some of the Sun systems to the spaceports take an hour and that's at multiple light speeds.
Of course the real kicker with all this is that we can get our heads round the size of our galaxy (just) but then that galaxy is just one of billions and according to theory all of this, everything came from ONE single atom just before the Big Bang expanded out in the first milliseconds...

I mean the only person who probably really understands all this is Steven Hawkings right?

 

[Sargon]

what I like about ED is how you gain an appreciation of just how vast space is.
I mean when I was a kid and watching the moon landings it took them something like six days to get to the moon which is what 250,000 km away? So is 1 light second or so?

Just travelling from some of the Sun systems to the spaceports take an hour and that's at multiple light speeds.
Of course the real kicker with all this is that we can get our heads round the size of our galaxy (just) but then that galaxy is just one of billions and according to theory all of this, everything came from ONE single atom just before the Big Bang expanded out in the first milliseconds...

I mean the only person who probably really understands all this is Steven Hawkings right?

There's a train of thought in Quantum Physics that, that single atom, is the only atom in the entire universe. But unlimited by time, it can vibrate so fast that it's everywhere at the same time, giving us all the illusion of atom multiplicity. so that would mean that you, I, everyone else, the entire universe and other universes are just ONE ATOM.

Wrap your head around THAT one!

 

[Joat]

There's a train of thought in Quantum Physics that, that single atom, is the only atom in the entire universe. But unlimited by time, it can vibrate so fast that it's everywhere at the same time, giving us all the illusion of atom multiplicity. so that would mean that you, I, everyone else, the entire universe and other universes are just ONE ATOM.

Wrap your head around THAT one!

So what happens when you split it?

 

[Georgio]

There's a train of thought in Quantum Physics that, that single atom, is the only atom in the entire universe. But unlimited by time, it can vibrate so fast that it's everywhere at the same time, giving us all the illusion of atom multiplicity. so that would mean that you, I, everyone else, the entire universe and other universes are just ONE ATOM.

Wrap your head around THAT one!

Hmmm, mind blown....

 

[TranZdog]

Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

also-
It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

 

[trekman]

This is also an interesting video on the size of stars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q

 

[Joat]

If we are talking about how big space is, this is an obligatory quote:

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Albert Einstein​

 

[Sargon]

So what happens when you split it?

Well you see. Splitting the atom, just as with any other state of 'an' atom, is only an illusion. The premise is based on the theory that everything we see, touch, smell, taste, is only a creation of the mind, an illusion. To use a sort of cheeky word, a Matrix. That one atom forming the entirety of existence itself is basically all there is, conforming itself into the multitude of shapes and forms, co-created by the collective mind of every living sentient being in the multitude of universes involved in the matrix of thought.

Just one insanely immense bubble of co-created existence... Who knows, perhaps we're all, everything, just one spark in a neuron of an even larger sentient being, having a bad dream.

 

[Sargon]

.... From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

Precisely! ZERO-POINT... that's the ticket! So who said we can't split infinity!

 

[Joat]

Well you see. Splitting the atom, just as with any other state of 'an' atom, is only an illusion. The premise is based on the theory that everything we see, touch, smell, taste, is only a creation of the mind, an illusion. To use a sort of cheeky word, a Matrix. That one atom forming the entirety of existence itself is basically all there is, conforming itself into the multitude of shapes and forms, co-created by the collective mind of every living sentient being in the multitude of universes involved in the matrix of thought.

Just one insanely immense bubble of co-created existence... Who knows, perhaps we're all, everything, just one spark in a neuron of an even larger sentient being, having a bad dream.

The problem is that the single atom would have to have infinite quantum states and remember them while happily vibrating away multi-dimensionally. It gets even more funny when the atom is sucked into a black hole and eventually gets expelled as Hawking radiation...

 

[Joe Spivey]

No matter how big space is, it can never be bigger than a grandmother's handbag. Let me explain.

When you are a teenage girl you have a 'handbag' that is just big enough to hold the essentials. A tampax, a condom, taxi fare and, if you are posh, a lipstick. Time passes and you become a mother and now you carry around in your handbag a portable baby changing facility as well as enough medication to outfit a pharmacy, all the family records, kids pictures, sweets, crayons, an activity book... well, you get the idea. Then you become a grandma and there is absolutely nothing a grandmother worth her salt cannot pull from her handbag.

Case in point. When I was a kid granny was around one day and my dad came in from outside complaining that the car had a flat tyre and he had lent out his jack to a neighbour who was not at home. Yes, believe it or not my gran reached into her handbag and produced a bottle jack. "Will this do?" She says. Jaws duely dropped all around the room. 'Bag Of Holding'? Pft, give me a granny's handbag every day.

 

[Sargon]

The problem is that the single atom would have to have infinite quantum states and remember them while happily vibrating away multi-dimensionally. It gets even more funny when the atom is sucked into a black hole and eventually gets expelled as Hawking radiation...

Well, consider that time, isn't a factor for said atom. So infinite states, is actually no state at all. The limiting factor is time... Which is part of the illusion. I've pondered about this and came to the conclusion that time is the key (or lock rather) that binds us into this Matrix thought bubble. Take time out of the equation and infinity is released, enabling that one atom to do whatever it has to do to recreate the thoughts manifesting the 'reality'.

 

[Dalkeith]

My understanding is that they still haven't got a conclusive answer to this threads title.

Everything so far they have used to measure the universe suggests it is infinite however an infinite universe requires an infinite amount of accuracy in measurement. I know they've drawn very big triangles and tried to measure the angles at the corner to see if they add up to more or less than 360 degrees. So far they've come out at 360 degrees perfect which is consistent with infinity. Anything other than 360 would prove that the universe is finite.

Our universe is finite in one particular dimension. Time! But then again that is only our present universe we have NO idea of what came before.