Keyboard and HOTAS Reference Sheet Generator

VerticalBlank · Oct 29, 2017

Wrongway said:
I though it odd as I dug an old file from a while ago using the same controller and that still seemed t parse ok.

I have not been in this thread for a while. What is the difference between the original site and the edrefcard one?

jgm no longer had time to continue maintenance of the old site and so handed over to me. Since the old site was part of his personal web server I set up new hosting at edrefcard.info - hopefully an easier name to remember!

The main user-visible changes so far are that I've added Dualshock4 support and a list view. Support for a few more controllers is in the pipeline, but for the past few weeks helping out with EDDI has taken up all my spare cycles.

VerticalBlank · Oct 31, 2017

EDRefCard is currently having a little dirt nap while Vatta Enterprises contemplate the error of their choice and re-assign their best people to it.

Best. People.

VerticalBlank · Oct 31, 2017

Server is back up. Apologies for the outage.

dtdionne · Nov 1, 2017

Any progress on the cougar? Is there anything else I can do to help?

VerticalBlank · Nov 1, 2017

dtdionne said:
Any progress on the cougar? Is there anything else I can do to help?

It has not been forgotten. I just need to get a bit of free time to work on it.

Stele · Nov 4, 2017

Ok... so I haven't played in a while (6+ months) but had my PS4 controller set up how I liked it when I was playing. Found this great site and wanted a controller reference to help me dive back in. Looks like a great tool and I saw a comment saying that DS4 is supported.

But I keep getting "unknown controller detected".

Is there something I can edit in the XML of my existing bind file to get it to read properly as a Dualshock 4?

Thanks for any help.

VerticalBlank · Nov 4, 2017

Stele said:
Ok... so I haven't played in a while (6+ months) but had my PS4 controller set up how I liked it when I was playing. Found this great site and wanted a controller reference to help me dive back in. Looks like a great tool and I saw a comment saying that DS4 is supported.

But I keep getting "unknown controller detected".

Is there something I can edit in the XML of my existing bind file to get it to read properly as a Dualshock 4?

Thanks for any help.

If you supply a description it will save your bindings file under a six character code. Let me know that and I'll take a took. DS4 support is new, and the first one I've done, so it's possible I overlooked something.

The default DS4 bindings are at https://edrefcard.info/binds/zoqbyl if you want to download and compare them.

dtdionne · Nov 10, 2017

VerticalBlank said:
If you supply a description it will save your bindings file under a six character code. Let me know that and I'll take a took. DS4 support is new, and the first one I've done, so it's possible I overlooked something.

The default DS4 bindings are at https://edrefcard.info/binds/zoqbyl if you want to download and compare them.

Yeah, the problem with the DS4 is that it's not nativly supported on PC, even thru Steam...I tried it. Steam just emulates an Xbox Controller, which doesn't have a touchpad. And on the PS4 the DS4's touchpad has 4 pretty vital functions: Upper Right - Next Firegroup, Upper Left - Previous Firegroup, Lower Right - Systems Panel, Lower Left - Navagation Panel. Combine this with the fact that on PS4 the DS4 already lacks about 5 or 6 bindings, makes it super cramped on the PC. What I havent tried yet is the official Sony Dongle.

KellyR · Nov 10, 2017

dtdionne said:
Yeah, the problem with the DS4 is that it's not nativly supported on PC, even thru Steam...I tried it. Steam just emulates an Xbox Controller, which doesn't have a touchpad. And on the PS4 the DS4's touchpad has 4 pretty vital functions: Upper Right - Next Firegroup, Upper Left - Previous Firegroup, Lower Right - Systems Panel, Lower Left - Navagation Panel. Combine this with the fact that on PS4 the DS4 already lacks about 5 or 6 bindings, makes it super cramped on the PC. What I havent tried yet is the official Sony Dongle.

I think if you register it, it will work. I think (not completely sure though) that the registration is in the "Big Picture" mode, but it seems to work even when "big picture" isn't running. I don't play ED through Steam, but I play another game through Steam. I registered the DS4 controller in "Big Picture" mode and it works great even when not in that ode.

dtdionne · Nov 10, 2017

That’s exactly what I tried, big picture. It emulates an Xbox controller.

KellyR · Nov 11, 2017

dtdionne said:
That’s exactly what I tried, big picture. It emulates an Xbox controller.

Well, it lets me use my touchpad in-game. Not in ED as I don't play ED through Steam, but in the game I play on Steam, it lets me use the touchpad for a mouse.

Ravenrox63 · Nov 20, 2017

Got a new device number for the list

Hi,
First off, Thanks to you and JMG for a great proggie!.
Trying to get my ref sheet I get a unknown device error.
My setup:
TM T.16000M Flight Stick
TM TWCS Throttle
TM TFRP Rudder Pedals
My generated Ref card: https://edrefcard.info/binds/hmogvc

If you need the Custom.binds or any other info just let me know.

And Thanks again!!

VerticalBlank · Nov 20, 2017

Ravenrox63 said:
Hi,
First off, Thanks to you and JMG for a great proggie!.
Trying to get my ref sheet I get a unknown device error.
My setup:
TM T.16000M Flight Stick
TM TWCS Throttle
TM TFRP Rudder Pedals
My generated Ref card: https://edrefcard.info/binds/hmogvc

If you need the Custom.binds or any other info just let me know.

And Thanks again!!

Thanks for the report, I will take a look as soon as I can get some time. I can get your binds file from the server URL you gave me.

Zaphod Beeblebrox IV · Nov 24, 2017

One wee gripe with this. I'm using a Saitek X52 Pro which has buttons that emulate mouse buttons and the app does not reference them to the controller ref https://edrefcard.info/binds/mrxaym

Zaphod Beeblebrox IV · Nov 24, 2017

Please ignore. Tried it again and it worked. Thanks for the great app.

Zaphod Beeblebrox IV · Nov 25, 2017

Back again. Mouse problems. It depends on what you have assigned to the mouse controls as to whether or not they show up in the image. I think it may be because the binds file has different names for the same button depending on what it is controlling. For instance if you use the Mouse Scroll Button in the free camera suite it is referred to in the binds file as Joy_17 or Joy_18 (which your program detects) but when used for a fire group it is Pos_Mouse_ZAxis or Neg_Mouse_ZAxis (which your program does not detect) similarly Mouse 1 button is Joy_16 or Mouse_1. Refer

https://edrefcard.info/binds/krxnxr

and

https://edrefcard.info/binds/rizmjk

VerticalBlank · Nov 25, 2017

Yeah, for whatever reason jgm never added a diagram for the mouse. But if there was one, the annotations would appear on that diagram and not on your X52 Pro.

How come your X52 Pro is emulating mouse buttons? Is is some sort of third party driver from Saitek or Logitech?

Downslide · Nov 27, 2017

Heya VB!
Love this reference sheet generator. But it doesn't like my Logitech Wingman Rumblepad, or the Cordless Logitech Wingman Rumblepad. I have the first bound to Vehicle controls for the SRV, and the second bound to Free Camera controls.

Zaphod Beeblebrox IV · Nov 27, 2017

VerticalBlank said:
Yeah, for whatever reason jgm never added a diagram for the mouse. But if there was one, the annotations would appear on that diagram and not on your X52 Pro.

How come your X52 Pro is emulating mouse buttons? Is is some sort of third party driver from Saitek or Logitech?

Perhaps I am not explaining clearly. The X52 Pro has, on the throttle, a mouse stick, a left mouse button (M1) and a combined right mouse button and mouse scroll wheel (M2). These are shown on the generated diagram. If you refer to refcard https://edrefcard.info/binds/rizmjk you will see M2 annotated but on this refcard https://edrefcard.info/binds/krxnxr where the M2 assignment is different there are no references on the diagram. If you download the 2 refcards and a run a diff on them you'll see what the assignments are. In both cases M1 which is assigned to 'reset headlock' is not annotated on the diagram.

VerticalBlank · Nov 27, 2017

Downslide said:
Heya VB!
Love this reference sheet generator. But it doesn't like my Logitech Wingman Rumblepad, or the Cordless Logitech Wingman Rumblepad. I have the first bound to Vehicle controls for the SRV, and the second bound to Free Camera controls.

Hi, save them as permanent profiles please (by giving them a title), let me know the URLs and I'll take a look.