Less than 5k cmdrs logging in now.

The reason why I went from playing every day for a few hours to testing each build and playing something else is:

Lack of Powerplay updates (along with continually balancing ships, engineering)
Lack of development in core aspects (piracy, anything involving crime, ranks, military)
Shocking game killing bugs and poor delivery/ regressions- this started around the New Commander Experience where such a small patch wrecked huge swathes of the game for me and I simply stopped playing.
FD being timid with changes and listening to certain joy killing sections of EDs playerbase over the years (who for forum reasons I can't name).
ED lacking cohesion- EDO content feels separate to EDH just as EDH content feels disconnected from the old core game. FD are now busy trying to bring it together but this modular approach has made this issue a real problem when there was so much potential.

But anyway- time will tell. FD have priced in a revenue drop for EDO so if it meets that revised figure it may go on. If it comes in below that then.......it might be time.
 
Face it ! The borked shallow oddity release fps shooter did not go down well except a few students in Loughborough who pvped each other in anarchy settlements for s**ts n giggles.
The move away from exploration. From the technical hard aspect..dumbing it down..
Has bitten em in the butt.
I love this game. And I'm genuinely worried they'll look at the figures & pull the plug in 12 mths time
 
I'm not arguing semantics.
The fact is their isn't alot of cmdrs playing elite anymore.
Because.... well we all know why.
And yes steam figures are an accurate reflection of logins. Perhaps not all. But most I would argue.

Perhaps you should have used a better title then? Because your numbers are way off. Therefore your whole post is built on a faulty premise.

I don't know why 100%. Unlike you, i don't have oracular vision. However, i suspect a lot were turned off by Odyssey's poor launch. Some will have turned away for good. Some have returned. Some will return. And some new people have and will start to play. A lot will depend on hardware unless FD can optimize further (which they probably have to for consoles) or as people upgrade naturally they will start to get good performance.

What I can say, having now spent quite a few hours in Odyssey, its blooming fantastic. It adds a whole new dimension to the game with loads more activities.

Personally i'd recommend anyone who enjoyed ED before the update and was turned off by Odyssey's launch, and if they have the hardware for it, to give it a try now. Its not without its issues and still some questionable design decisions, but overall i give it a big thumbs up.
 
Face it ! The borked shallow oddity release fps shooter did not go down well except a few students in Loughborough who pvped each other in anarchy settlements for s**ts n giggles.
The move away from exploration. From the technical hard aspect..dumbing it down..
You won't find many arguing about the dismal launch.
Has bitten em in the butt.
I love this game. And I'm genuinely worried they'll look at the figures & pull the plug in 12 mths time

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I have sort of the inverse feeling than most of historical Horizons players. I think Odyssey is what saved Elite for me. I'm more of a FPS player.

After 1 year of doing only ships (which I loved), I started to get bored and was gonna quit. OD made me stay. Now, I got both the best spaceship and best FPS game.

After doing the last 3 combat CGs, I had tons of on-foot PvP. To me, OD is surprisingly one of the best competitive shooter I played in years (and I got hundreds of hours in Overwatch). You can really feel the 'Lemnis Gate' DNA, which is e-sport oriented.
 
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Face it ! The borked shallow oddity release fps shooter did not go down well except a few students in Loughborough who pvped each other in anarchy settlements for s**ts n giggles.
The move away from exploration. From the technical hard aspect..dumbing it down..
Has bitten em in the butt.
I love this game. And I'm genuinely worried they'll look at the figures & pull the plug in 12 mths time
Are you just being sour because you still didn't get the required 12 players for your PMF on Inara like your leader promised you would?
 
I barely use the on-foot section of the game now. Just give me more ships and gameplay loop using ships.
If it were more vital I'd be more excited.

I mean, the on foot concourses are just foot based UI- there is zero gameplay just a new way to select a mission- as a test do the point emote and run at a mission giver and boom! you are the 2D UI in 3D. Where is the scum and villainy? RPG lite elements synergistically working with ship / rep / rank / powerplay / career?

Was it worth breaking the game to have feet when an SRV could do most of what legs can do?
 
The OP may not have pointed out the most relevant statistic, but idea that ED has fewer players post-Odyssey is both accurate and very easy to confirm.



Player density can significantly alter the experience of a multiplayer game.



There were still twice as many six months ago, and there haven't been so few concurrent players as these last few weeks in a very long time.

The 'only Steam' argument doesn't mean anything. There is no reason for Steam's figures to not be representative of the whole or not be indicative of the general trend, even if most players weren't on Steam. That Steam sample size is multiple orders of magnitude larger than needed to get a very accurate picture of population trends.

sure, is.
but the 5k figure (or less than 5k) doesnt mean doom.

Elite might not have the last year's figure of 500,000 monthly players, but that doesn't mean a 200,000 monthly players isn't a quite healthy number

According to the same Steam Charts, ED had similar or lower numbers (than current numbers) in:
  • July or December 2016,
  • August 2017,
  • A good portion of 2018 (May, August, September, October, November)
  • June and October 2019

So i would not call the Doom Brigade yet.
 
Noooo pmf formed. We're in hodur if u wanna come see.
All welcome.
Except not so nice folks.
We're a peaceful bunch.
 
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