To make everyone agree, a cow drink milk, but also, a cow drinks his own milk.
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To make everyone agree, a cow drink milk, but also, a cow drinks his own milk.
I hate the milk.The problem is cows dont naturally produce milk all the time, for them to make milk you need to let them have young... they give birth around once a year so are practically pregnant all the time (the young are then either slaughtered or go into the farming machinery). Again as my last post. I dont mind a bit of soya milk (and i would give up milk far easier than meat if i had to) but I do still drink milk too.
PS I aint drinking milk from a cow who either drinks or produces "his" own milk
have not read all this thread but there are some interesting comments regarding the pet industry, potential double standards of vegans keeping pets is something I have never considered before. Not sure I agree or not but it is definitely a valid point. I wish I had, there are a few "heated debates" I have had in the past where I was on the defensive where i could have slipped that one in.
not at all, and it isnt even hypocritical so long as you are not judging others.I hate the milk.
But I love yogurt, cheese, custard etc ...
A paradox ? I don't know.
Well thought.and it isnt even hypocritical so long as you are not judging others.
I will still defend (some) SUVs howeverWell thought.
I will still defend (some) SUVs however
(just teasing btw no offence intended)
Sure if you want to live that way that is fine and all, but dont judge me about the morality of eating animals whilst tucking into your prawn salad or cod and chips.
Whilst this may be true to me that is a weak sauce argument (IF you are judging meat eaters... If it is what you tell yourself whilst you eat fish but not meat then fine).. IF eating animals is bad it is bad, if it is fine it is fine.. otherwise the same argument could be used for chicken compared to pork for instance.Neither cod nor prawn are neurologically as aware, or as capable of suffering to the same degree, as most higher animals.
How can we know that ?Neither cod nor prawn are neurologically as aware, or as capable of suffering to the same degree, as most higher animals.
Can't remember if I mentioned this before but My Daughter who is 16 is a Vegan which is fine and I support here fully.
Problem is.... My Son is a Butcher...
Much hilarity in our house....
You can be a vegan butcher, no? Just dont eat the meat.
I agree with your point. Fish clearly want to live and not be caught and eaten. I consider the relativism required to make eating them permissable whilst eating other animals "cruel" to be hypocritical in the extreme.Whilst this may be true to me that is a weak sauce argument (IF you are judging meat eaters... If it is what you tell yourself whilst you eat fish but not meat then fine).. IF eating animals is bad it is bad, if it is fine it is fine.. otherwise the same argument could be used for chicken compared to pork for instance.
Fish CAN feel pain btw. (I don't know enough about seafood to definitely comment either way)
Indeed I could counter in some ways it is more defensible to eat chicken or any farmed meat than it is to eat non farmable animals like cod for instance who's numbers have plummeted and can't be easily repopulated.
Whilst this may be true to me that is a weak sauce argument (IF you are judging meat eaters... If it is what you tell yourself whilst you eat fish but not meat then fine).. IF eating animals is bad it is bad, if it is fine it is fine.. otherwise the same argument could be used for chicken compared to pork for instance.
Fish CAN feel pain btw. (I don't know enough about seafood to definitely comment either way)
Indeed I could counter in some ways it is more defensible to eat chicken or any farmed meat than it is to eat non farmable animals like cod for instance who's numbers have plummeted and can't be easily repopulated.
Neither cod nor prawn are neurologically as aware, or as capable of suffering to the same degree, as most higher animals.