ollobrains
Banned
as im finding with the pand group, a couple are doing most of hte work and a lot of posters saying yes we are here, but not much evidence that they are actualy up there. So same for CSG.
Lets test this persistent universe and see if FD are true to their word.
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So I hope nobody is offended - I think I was fulfilling the title of this thread and "testing out this persistent universe" - with positive results I think. I am still going to be in and around Lugh for the present but I'm rather bored of running Fruit and Veg missions in the name of Democracy so I don't think my activities will make any dent in CSG's progress. However if you want to strike a blow for CSG and take a shot at my Cobra feel free - I fly cheap replaceable shipsAdd me if you want to know if I'm online (I use my real name in game).
Seems like your timing was perfect, arriving just as we decided to back off for a while! Interesting that whereas I thought there was just a default drift back towards LFE (based on the trading by NPCs at their stations), it may have been you. But we are game players and it's not unreasonable that every so often someone should come along and be working for the Feds. Thanks for joining the thread and adding to the discussion!
It's really hard to tell, and anyway in the case of trading some players have ships that can do orders of magnitude more than others can. But you're right that there's a much smaller group of us that are putting in focussed effort towards our goal.
Maybe some time in the distant future ED will have systems in place for players to formally organise community events and see the participation of members towards the goal...
FYI: It might be that for civil war to trigger the two minor factions need to be close to each other.
AEDC was working in a system that was in a similar state as Lugh. By that I mean that we pushed a minor faction, and due to influence bugs (queue not processing), cooldowns and states blocking civil war we overtook the "controlling" faction in this system by a wide margin.
We have decided to push our "enemy" faction to get close to the faction we actually support. In our first system we saw a "civil war pending" as soon as we got into 20% of each other (52% vs 32%).
In our current theater of operations there is another system with the same characteristics. Here we will probably come within 20% of each other within the next 2-3 days.
I'll keep you posted of our findings, and whether we manage to trigger and then win a civil war this way.
And I am curious whether your 100% plan will work.
AEDC was working in a system that was in a similar state as Lugh. By that I mean that we pushed a minor faction, and due to influence bugs (queue not processing), cooldowns and states blocking civil war we overtook the "controlling" faction in this system by a wide margin.
We have decided to push our "enemy" faction to get close to the faction we actually support. In our first system we saw a "civil war pending" as soon as we got into 20% of each other (52% vs 32%).
In our current theater of operations there is another system with the same characteristics. Here we will probably come within 20% of each other within the next 2-3 days.
I'll keep you posted of our findings, and whether we manage to trigger and then win a civil war this way.
And I am curious whether your 100% plan will work.
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I refuse to do that because it is just daft. If the game is that broken that you have to back the enemy to get a war then the game is broken. Better to leave them with a 100% and an exposed fault in the game. At least that way the open sore has to be patched.
Michael did specifically say that having a large influence gap could trigger a civil war for a station, so we kinda have to trust that at some point that will kick in.
My Group is pushing Sugrivik too
Just managed to surpass the current faction by 3%
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=110552&page=2
I was testing to see if pushing one of the system FD chose to pull out of Feds control will be a factor.
On a Side Note a nearby System Gebel which was a independent system which has over 90% of empire influence has switch over to empire with no civil war triggered after patch 1.1
Station was renamed but commodities/industry was not affected.
We've seen that in Sesuang. Strangely I'm still seeing new missions with the old station names, which I'm just avoiding.
Update
Crimson State Group 93.6% (+1.3%)
Lugh for Equality 6.1% (-1.3%)
Lugh Defence Force 0.1%
Silver Natural 0.1%
Dominion of Lugh 0.1%
Crimson State Group
State: None
Pending States: Boom + Lockdown
Lugh for Equality
State: None
Pending States: Boom +
Lugh Defence Force
State: None
Pending States: Civil War (Cooldown since 07.02.2015)
Silver Natural LTD
State: None
Pending States: Civil War (cooldown since 07.02.2015)
Dominion of Lugh
State: None
Pending States: None
Crimson State Group 93.6% (+1.3%)
Lugh for Equality 6.1% (-1.3%)
Lugh Defence Force 0.1%
Silver Natural 0.1%
Dominion of Lugh 0.1%
Crimson State Group
State: None
Pending States: Boom + Lockdown
Lugh for Equality
State: None
Pending States: Boom +
Lugh Defence Force
State: None
Pending States: Civil War (Cooldown since 07.02.2015)
Silver Natural LTD
State: None
Pending States: Civil War (cooldown since 07.02.2015)
Dominion of Lugh
State: None
Pending States: None
Keep at it Mauze
I pumped another million profit into last night and also killed a wanted LFE Federal Dropship in my Eagle Another couple of runs at it and we will have them well beaten
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Sellers is now called Stillman (i think, working from memory here) but you can still cash in missions labeled Sellers.
I had heard to the contrary, so I'm using Stillman to buy Agri cargo but I'd not been taking on "Take" missions to Sellers.
Great to see some familiar names out there again last night. This road has been a very long and weary ride but we are very close now to maximum influence. I know many of you are worn out and disheartened by the lack of a civil war. FD may very well wish we would just go away at this point. Go quietly into the night and encourage the idea that things are working as intended.
So are things working as intended? That depends on your perspetive. Are numbers being pushed up and down, back and forth? Yes. If that was what was intended then you would have to answer that things are indeed working as intended.
If however the goal is to create a system that players are able to affect in a meaningful way Iwould have to say so far we have not seen it.
We have all worked exteamely hard on this. Day in and day out slogging away but we are so close to maximum influence now. I urge everyone to get on board now at this last hurdle and push hard. We are at the point now where we can confront FD with this. I want to have maximum influence so there can be no arguing that we did EVERYTHING and still there has been no change in the Lugh system. Nobody could be in any doubt. That is a powerful thing.
The boys over at FD have worked very hard on this game. They WANT it to work. They spent two weeks slogging away fixing bugs and Michael himself said he was satisfied that it was working as intended, but how can a faction have total dominance in a system and that factor not override whatever rules are set out for power transfers in a system?
I would like to see FD make some additions or changes to their system. I would like to see things such as the check points allow an opportunity for players to ignite conflict in the system by attacking them. Direct action to inject some sense of excitement into the 'silent war'. I would like to see overwhelming influential dominance override the current ruleset and take precedence when such a situation should arise.
These are only my suggestions. I love this game and I particularly love this part of the game. It is not my intention to be a game breaker or hurt FD's creation. It never was. But I fear FD feels they have spent enough time on this part of the game with bug fixes etc. and although I can appreciate they are up to their eyes with commitments in other areas my feelings are that this part of the game is close to greatness. It is so close but it needs a couple of small tweaks and it could be amazing!
So come on guys, lets push this thing one last time and crush LFE. This is more than just for Lugh at this point. we are doing this for the GAME ITSELF.
I also want to just say a big thankyou to all the people who have helped so far and a huge thankyou to all the main staple guys who have worked long and hard on this. It would never have been possible without you. And Mauze, I know you are becoming weary with trading but your Anaconda out there is doing the work of three ships. You have been doing a stellar job out there this past while. Not much more now... We are nearly there
So are things working as intended? That depends on your perspetive. Are numbers being pushed up and down, back and forth? Yes. If that was what was intended then you would have to answer that things are indeed working as intended.
If however the goal is to create a system that players are able to affect in a meaningful way Iwould have to say so far we have not seen it.
We have all worked exteamely hard on this. Day in and day out slogging away but we are so close to maximum influence now. I urge everyone to get on board now at this last hurdle and push hard. We are at the point now where we can confront FD with this. I want to have maximum influence so there can be no arguing that we did EVERYTHING and still there has been no change in the Lugh system. Nobody could be in any doubt. That is a powerful thing.
The boys over at FD have worked very hard on this game. They WANT it to work. They spent two weeks slogging away fixing bugs and Michael himself said he was satisfied that it was working as intended, but how can a faction have total dominance in a system and that factor not override whatever rules are set out for power transfers in a system?
I would like to see FD make some additions or changes to their system. I would like to see things such as the check points allow an opportunity for players to ignite conflict in the system by attacking them. Direct action to inject some sense of excitement into the 'silent war'. I would like to see overwhelming influential dominance override the current ruleset and take precedence when such a situation should arise.
These are only my suggestions. I love this game and I particularly love this part of the game. It is not my intention to be a game breaker or hurt FD's creation. It never was. But I fear FD feels they have spent enough time on this part of the game with bug fixes etc. and although I can appreciate they are up to their eyes with commitments in other areas my feelings are that this part of the game is close to greatness. It is so close but it needs a couple of small tweaks and it could be amazing!
So come on guys, lets push this thing one last time and crush LFE. This is more than just for Lugh at this point. we are doing this for the GAME ITSELF.
I also want to just say a big thankyou to all the people who have helped so far and a huge thankyou to all the main staple guys who have worked long and hard on this. It would never have been possible without you. And Mauze, I know you are becoming weary with trading but your Anaconda out there is doing the work of three ships. You have been doing a stellar job out there this past while. Not much more now... We are nearly there
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ollobrains
Banned
think i might leave my pand project for a few hours and bounce the short distance in galactic terms over and run some CSG missions and help u guys get this over the line, im going to need data as pci up here is getting close to 100% we have the stations already but our problem is we are hitting expansion with nowhere to move to.
Update
Crimson State Group 95.3% (+1.7%)
Lugh for Equality 4.4% (-1.7%)
Lugh Defence Force 0.1%
Silver Natural 0.1%
Dominion of Lugh 0.1%
Crimson State Group
State: None
Pending States: Boom + Lockdown
Lugh for Equality
State: None
Pending States: Boom +
Lugh Defence Force
State: None
Pending States: Civil War (Cooldown since 07.02.2015)
Silver Natural LTD
State: None
Pending States: Civil War (cooldown since 07.02.2015)
Dominion of Lugh
State: None
Pending States: None
Crimson State Group 95.3% (+1.7%)
Lugh for Equality 4.4% (-1.7%)
Lugh Defence Force 0.1%
Silver Natural 0.1%
Dominion of Lugh 0.1%
Crimson State Group
State: None
Pending States: Boom + Lockdown
Lugh for Equality
State: None
Pending States: Boom +
Lugh Defence Force
State: None
Pending States: Civil War (Cooldown since 07.02.2015)
Silver Natural LTD
State: None
Pending States: Civil War (cooldown since 07.02.2015)
Dominion of Lugh
State: None
Pending States: None
Not long now guys... How can FD defend a .1% faction that maintains control of a system?
Crush LFE!
I started asking this question when they fell below 51%
Well, we don't know what the number actually represents. What is the Conservative party's influence % in the UK? Recent polls put them at 28%, yet they are still the senior partner in the coalition government. They got 36.1% of the popular vote in 2010, more than Labour got in 2005 with 35.2%. What is Assad's influence % in Syria? Ashraf Ghani's in Afghanistan?
I would have preferred it if these numerical factors had been hidden behind the scenes, as they just lead to wild speculation. I expect that the real numbers actually are hidden, and that the % influence that we see is an aggregation of a set of variables.
Some detail in PC Gamer about the 1.2 implementation of Wings... It'll be fun to team up and patrol the system together! Maximum of 4 players in a wing is a bit limiting though.
http://www.pcgamer.com/elite-dangerous-12-preview-flying-together-with-wings/
http://www.pcgamer.com/elite-dangerous-12-preview-flying-together-with-wings/