Correct me if I am wrong, but that Farragut should be there, right? Even galnet said a second capital ship is en-route.
Lets test this persistent universe and see if FD are true to their word.
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and why is that? soon will be two battlecruiser for the feds there...
Made it into the 5%ers of Spear of Lugh just now. That's me an 123 other players. Yeah well...it's mainly free time to be credited. Skills is not really needed. 451 Feds ships killed so far in this war. I expect to make Master soon. I was Competent when i started.
I play as a Federation pilot, but as an Elite fan I have to say that what you guys have achieved so far is impressive. I really do hope you get independence. You have worked so hard to get there and I'd hate to see your success halted by a bug or something else silly.
As a Federation pilot, though, I hope you guys get creamed
Seriously, though, good work and good luck to you all I've really enjoyed observing your progress.
As a Federation pilot, though, I hope you guys get creamed
Seriously, though, good work and good luck to you all
I've really enjoyed observing your progress.
Lugh is an old irish deity. This started as an experiment to test the background simulation. And turned into a campaign to free Lugh to ensure religious freedom and keep the Federation's corporate warmongers from stuffing children into tins and selling them as "animal" meat.
I finally made it down and joined a wing of Lugh sympathizers. We took control of one of the conflict zones and killed many Federation cmdrs and npcs for a good few hours.
I'll be hanging out at Balandin gateway for a few hours if anyone wants to wing up and stick it to the feds or you'll find me in one of the conflict zones
CMDR Distance
I'll be hanging out at Balandin gateway for a few hours if anyone wants to wing up and stick it to the feds or you'll find me in one of the conflict zones
CMDR Distance
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Generally it really depends on the flight skills. A pro in an eagle? Or a total n00b in an anaconda with 8 shield boosters?
I'm flying a python, fitted for having fun. Packs quite a punch and my piloting skills are quite average.
Best would be to NOT fight alone, since I wouldn't even have a chance, so everybody is welcome. As long as you fight for CSG, of course.
We're meant to be doing Operation Dullahan. Before it was quite innocuous, now it's at the top of the community goals list in bold. The text for it also seems to have changed to make it more clear that is what Crimson State need to do to win. Engaging the Feds head on in space achieves nothing now. Operation Dullahan needs to be completed to win this war.
In addition it pays really well. You are guaranteed a T-9, Anaconda and Dropship, which is 74k in bonds, and if you're flying a Vulture they drop like flies. So you can head into the Convoy, destroy the T-9 cargo hatch, destroy the T-9, scoop up the loot (43k for one), mop up the rest of the enemies or just go for the big guns, then rinse repeat
It's satisfying, pays well, and will win us the war!
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People remember, you are fighting not just for Lugh or against the Federation. Those of us who have put their time into this are also fighting for something much BIGGER!
We are fighting to actually make a difference in the game. Those who pile in on the bigger side do so only to line their own pockets. They care nothing for actually trying to achieve something in this game. What we are doing at least in ED terms is important. It is a mile stone. players will look back on this and say "I was there, I fought for Lugh. We stood up against cyberspace and the very forces of the internet itself".
Win or lose you are part of something! Those who would fight against us are mere beach bullies. The kind of people who would stamp on a childs sandcastle. A victory for them would be nothing short of shallow.
Stand up and fight the good fight!
Do not relent!
Do not let them destroy what we have worked so hard for!
Sure, for ourselves but also for the game itself.
And for those who fail to see, also for our enemies themslves who are too blind to realise that all our efforts have helped improve this game and steer its direction! We are also fighting for their benift.
We are fighting to actually make a difference in the game. Those who pile in on the bigger side do so only to line their own pockets. They care nothing for actually trying to achieve something in this game. What we are doing at least in ED terms is important. It is a mile stone. players will look back on this and say "I was there, I fought for Lugh. We stood up against cyberspace and the very forces of the internet itself".
Win or lose you are part of something! Those who would fight against us are mere beach bullies. The kind of people who would stamp on a childs sandcastle. A victory for them would be nothing short of shallow.
Stand up and fight the good fight!
Do not relent!
Do not let them destroy what we have worked so hard for!
Sure, for ourselves but also for the game itself.
And for those who fail to see, also for our enemies themslves who are too blind to realise that all our efforts have helped improve this game and steer its direction! We are also fighting for their benift.
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I get what your saying and I do respect the hard work and effort all you guys have put into this but, as soon as this community event (CE) was interjected by FD, isn't the test over? I mean the whole CE thing kinds put a stick in the spokes no?
I've no idea why (I'm sure it's a good one) FD would do this at this particular time at this particular test but, wouldn't you guys really be better off starting a new test in a new system now? Not trying to be a smart alec.
Nope. Never underestimate the Irish resolve. We are used to being beaten with sticks. We are comfortable there. We get knocked down, stand back up and keep going. As we always have...
I think what you are seeing here is 'Power Play'. That is my guess and because of that it is still a test. FD will be gathering data from this. They can see how an organised group wishing to do something like this is set against random numbers of players on the internet as a whole. They can set their parameters for success against that. This is new ground we are threading on. FD do not have that information. Other players in the future doing this sort of thing will have a much more balanced and ordered approach. But FD are finding their feet with this and I would not fault them at all. I am actually very honoured that they took this much interest in us.
My above post is not an attempt at sour grapes in any way, I am merely pointing out to people the importance of their roll and and what they stand to gain by being on our side. I cannot see why a player would want to be on the side of a shallow victory personally. I mean, even if they win what will they have achieved? By the same account, even if we lose we have acieved something spectacular! Over 2,000 players that have rallied to this cause. That is just mind blowing
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I've been doing it in solo, here is how I do it.
You need a ship that has decent shields, I started doing it in an asp with D rated everything C shields. (after 2 days it's now all A rated, except for the jumpdrive which I can't find)
My setup:
Class 2 beam turret on top, Class 1 beam turret on the bottom. everything else gimbaled autocannons.
I've fitted 2x Shield boosters (class A - started with D's) and 2x Armour.
When you drop out of SC. Don't declare straight away.
Target the primary hauler and scan it, target the cargo hatch.
Declare and set the turrets to Target only.
Close on the hauler take down it's shields with the AC's and the Turrets.
Use the AC's to take the hatch down to 70%, now let the turret(s) tickle the hatch until you have 8 canisters.
Close the weapons and start scooping, 4 pips to shields and use shield cells to keep three rings.
Either the Hauler mauls you with it's autocannons, or you get to scoop in peace.
When you've got all 8, target the hatch again and let it drop to 0.
Turn the turrets to fire at will (they will easily take out all the small ships)
And scoop the rest of the cannisters.
I get 15 - 17 canisters a time, Rinse repeat until out of shield cells.
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My setup:
Class 2 beam turret on top, Class 1 beam turret on the bottom. everything else gimbaled autocannons.
I've fitted 2x Shield boosters (class A - started with D's) and 2x Armour.
When you drop out of SC. Don't declare straight away.
Target the primary hauler and scan it, target the cargo hatch.
Declare and set the turrets to Target only.
Close on the hauler take down it's shields with the AC's and the Turrets.
Use the AC's to take the hatch down to 70%, now let the turret(s) tickle the hatch until you have 8 canisters.
Close the weapons and start scooping, 4 pips to shields and use shield cells to keep three rings.
Either the Hauler mauls you with it's autocannons, or you get to scoop in peace.
When you've got all 8, target the hatch again and let it drop to 0.
Turn the turrets to fire at will (they will easily take out all the small ships)
And scoop the rest of the cannisters.
I get 15 - 17 canisters a time, Rinse repeat until out of shield cells.
....
When I started I had real problems staying alive, I was attacking too soon and my ship wasn't up to it.
Now only when the FEDs get the upper hand am I using shield cells, and on my last run I was at 70% hull and my power shut down, the power plant was at 10%!
Nope. Never underestimate the Irish resolve. We are used to being beaten with sticks. We are comfortable there. We get knocked down, stand back up and keep going. As we always have...
I think what you are seeing here is 'Power Play'. That is my guess and because of that it is still a test. FD will be gathering data from this. They can see how an organised group wishing to do something like this is set against random numbers of players on the internet as a whole. They can set their parameters for success against that. This is new ground we are threading on. FD do not have that information. Other players in the future doing this sort of thing will have a much more balanced and ordered approach. But FD are finding their feet with this and I would not fault them at all. I am actually very honoured that they took this much interest in us.
My above post is not an attempt at sour grapes in any way, I am merely pointing out to people the importance of their roll and and what they stand to gain by being on our side. I cannot see why a player would want to be on the side of a shallow victory personally. I mean, even if they win what will they have achieved? By the same account, even if we lose we have acieved something spectacular! Over 2,000 players that have rallied to this cause. That is just mind blowing
Applause...
This is the whole point. This is why I fight for Lugh. I love this proyect since the very first moment. We are helping to define the real Elite, the Elite built with stories lived by us, the pilots. Not farming RES or navbeacons. But creating stories.
Viva la revolucion!
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Operation Dullahan atm: 68.109 tonnes collected. 908 contributors (we need more here!). With 144 tonnes collected, top 15%.
For Lugh!
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Seems so. Ignoring the bugs for now and concentrating on process, it seems like a nice way to expand and bring to the fore things that various groups are doing in the game and getting more people involved, for and against. If there was a way to better integrate community goals (even the term 'community goal' is immersion breaking) and a bit more dynamism within the BG sim itself, then the system could be a real winner. I'd still like groups to be able to accomplish the things they want through sheer numbers and hard work, outside of community events, but the manual approach can certainly help polish these little sub plots operating in various places.
I can imagine CG's being presented more along the lines of 'World' news, with details about the event, where to sign up, etc. The tier system feels really gamey though and I wish there was something that could be done about that. Perhaps its that perhaps too much information is presented... everything is broken down into chunks of success which can easily be monitored. Very few things in life are so clean and able to be so simply expressed. What if you were contacted by one of the 'promoters' of the event to be told that you did a really great job and 'here's a nice bonus for your efforts'. The rewards can be the same, just dished out with a little more care and personality.
For the past x months we have been asking Frontier to give us more details, I'm glad there are displayable tiers and the payout you expect. If there wasn't any detail there a lot of people would give up.
The trading mission, I shifted 3000 tons of weapons in 100 ton chunks for 70,000cr per trip, so with the 5 mill bonus I picked up a nice 7 million for working my butt off for two days.
The original test succeeded, from a certain point of view: starting a war for system control is proven to work post-1.2. There was a War state in Lugh briefly before the community goal started, if I recall correctly.
Now other groups claim to have successfully changed controlling factions in a number of places. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=127953
edit: But I get your point, it would've been nice for this event to be 'hands-off' from Frontier. But I think they've done a good job in bringing community fiction into lore, even tieing in the efforts of the EIC to delay the Capital Ship Nevermore. Lugh has become the most interesting event in Elite to date.
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I agree, it would be nice if the whole system were automated end to end so that this could happen anywhere in the galaxy without the devs having to be aware that it is happening. I hope that this is the long term goal, to automate the generation of community goals when factions go to war, and that the Lugh events are a test of what those goals should comprise and how they can be automated in future.
Absolutely. It's amazing to see our effort brought into the lore. I aprecciate that very much. Thx for this FD!
I guess I'm just wondering if the information can be presented in a different or more subtle way. CG as currently implemented is just Kickstarter put into a game (how weird is that... people Kickstarted a game about playing Kickstarter?).
Everyone knows, the more you grind for a CG, the better the reward- the mechanic is understood. There should be indicators of progress along the way, which could be more appropriately displayed (imo) simply as news updates for the overall goal, but I'm not sure how to best display individual progress against other commanders. I guess I like the idea of a contact who updates you personally.. it could be different things for different types of community goals. The Kickstarter format just gets in the way of unfolding the narrative, it sets everything out at the beginning and you just grind along until you reach the goal. It's highscore gaming, which the original Elite was a reaction to.
I can almost imagine the devs staring at a huge screen, and seeing flashing red marks where 'interesting' things are happening in the galaxy. Then they could choose to interfere or add detail to what's already going on.
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Absolutely. It's amazing to see our effort brought into the lore. I aprecciate that very much. Thx for this FD!
And players are running with it. The Elite subreddit has become awash with propaganda and role-playing from all sides
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