Lets test this persistent universe and see if FD are true to their word.

_Flin_

_Flin_
sirius42 said:
Update

Crimson State Group 83.1% (+0.5%)
Lugh for Equality 16.4% (-0.4%)
Dominion of Lugh 0.1%
Lugh Defence Force 0.3%
Silver Natural 0.1%

Lugh for Equality are currently in a Boom state and pending Boom.

Crimson State Group are currently in a Boom state and pending Boom, Civil War and Lockdown.

Lugh Defence Force are pending Civil War.
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So this sounds as if there is a pending civil war to take over a station from the LDF. Do they still have one?

And what are actually your plans to trigger civil war?
We are in the same situation, although in a smaller system. Having achieved influence dominance, but don't know how to make these last steps.
How to trigger civil war? By increasing civil unrest? Doing military missions, no pirate killing, no importing missions except weapons?
Or maybe by sabotaging the faction showing "pending civil war"? By attacking them?

If you find an answer I'd be happy to hear about it.
 

gmatagmis

gmatagmis
_Flin_ said:
So this sounds as if there is a pending civil war to take over a station from the LDF. Do they still have one?

And what are actually your plans to trigger civil war?
We are in the same situation, although in a smaller system. Having achieved influence dominance, but don't know how to make these last steps.
How to trigger civil war? By increasing civil unrest? Doing military missions, no pirate killing, no importing missions except weapons?
Or maybe by sabotaging the faction showing "pending civil war"? By attacking them?

If you find an answer I'd be happy to hear about it.
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LDF have no any stations anymore.
This civil war in Lugh looks like a bug.
How can be civil war between mouse and elephant.
CSG is on top, and LDF is a cooling corpse.
 
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Toscaner

T
Michael Brookes said:
Cashing in the combat bonds should have an influence increase for that minor faction.

Michael
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would it be possible that we get more precise information about the influence we make, in the future?
atm we see a little arrow pointing upwards, but we don't actually know if it effectively helped or how much.

i guess there's some more digits after the comma, rounded for the display. maybe we can get that info?
 

Cmdr Sharky

Cmdr Sharky
gmatagmis said:
LDF have no any stations anymore.
This civil war in Lugh looks like a bug.
How can be civil war between mouse and elephant.
CSG is on top, and LDF is a cooling corpse.
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They're nowhere in the opinion polls at the moment, but only 6 or 7 weeks ago they were at 25%. They may still have some support that is lying low. Unlikely to be player support, but the background sim might have some surprises for us yet. They're independent, right? That reduces their chances, but even independent factions can have allies. LFE are much more likely to make a strong comeback though as they have Fed backing. A couple of capital ships appearing in the system waging open war on CSG would liven things up a little.
 

Roybe

Roybe
An observations and thought.

Since CSG has 3 different pending states, Boom, Civil War, and Lockdown...my thought on this is that the Background Simulation randomly chooses one of these to act on at a time. In other words, it chooses 1 state, and enacts the simulation for that state. Until that state has run its course the others are in queue.

I have work to do...tonight, missions for me out of Hartsfield.
 

Darkfyre99

Darkfyre99
Tony Spaniels said:
So the persistent universe is working then? I saw a thread open up yesterday from a Cmdr who has tried to influence a civil war with some friends, and after fighting all day (actually for a weekend I think) on one side completely decimating all opposition, they found the influence of teh side they were fighting for had actually dropped.
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That actually makes sense. Wars of any kind are seldom popular at home, and civil wars are more unpopular still. You can win the battle, and the war, but still lose popular support at home.
 

blueski

blueski
Keeping a close eye on this, you chaps have been working hard. Its a 200ly journey and i am getting a little bored cleaning out criminals from the alliance system i am in, but i'll consider the long trip to laser some Feds if we're talking Civil war.
I suspect you'll have a few others turn up when this happens.
 

CMDR TSAF

CMDR TSAF
Who? LOL These missions are starting to kick up some dirt

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sirius42

sirius42
blueski said:
Keeping a close eye on this, you chaps have been working hard. Its a 200ly journey and i am getting a little bored cleaning out criminals from the alliance system i am in, but i'll consider the long trip to laser some Feds if we're talking Civil war.
I suspect you'll have a few others turn up when this happens.
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Great news cu !
 

Jerzy7

J
Schlack said:
Hi Michael, does it matter if the bonds are cashed in at a station not owned by a civil war faction?
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From what happened im guessing yes the station matters. So fighting in a civil war helps your side to flip a station but if your side doesn't have a station you should save turning them in till you win a station. Just a guess of course.
Edit: totally wrong.... ninja by Michael :eek:
 

gmatagmis

gmatagmis
Michael, does system population taken into account on actions into influence calculation? Does one mission in 15 million system have same effect on influence as 1000 simmular missions in 15 billions populated system? Does factions have a "weight" or "mommentum" ~ total system population * faction influence?
 

sirius42

sirius42
gmatagmis said:
Michael, does system population taken into account on actions into influence calculation? Does one mission in 15 million system have same effect on influence as 1000 simmular missions in 15 billions populated system? Does factions have a "weight" or "mommentum" ~ total system population * faction influence?
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Good question !
 

Soda Popinski

Soda Popinski
gmatagmis said:
Michael, does system population taken into account on actions into influence calculation? Does one mission in 15 million system have same effect on influence as 1000 simmular missions in 15 billions populated system? Does factions have a "weight" or "mommentum" ~ total system population * faction influence?
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Talshiarr said:
Michael, does the population of the system play any role in how easy or difficult it is to change the influence of one faction vs. another? I'm testing in one with 2000 people that is balanced 55/45 between two of them with almost no other traffic but us and nothing has changed yet after dozens of mission completions for the minority side only
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Michael Brookes said:
Not directly, but it is factored in some of the numbers that are used directly by the simulation.

Michael
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So, I would interpret that as not-directly, but yes.
 

Michael Brookes

Game Director
gmatagmis said:
Michael, does system population taken into account on actions into influence calculation? Does one mission in 15 million system have same effect on influence as 1000 simmular missions in 15 billions populated system? Does factions have a "weight" or "mommentum" ~ total system population * faction influence?
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No - population feeds into the stats used by the system, but isn't used directly in this way.

Michael
 
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