Lets test this persistent universe and see if FD are true to their word.
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Oh, lockdown.
Noone knows actually what that does. Does it stop NPCs from trading?
And btw. I have started to hate the Boom state. Whenever you want to play the background simulation, the Boom gets in the way, no matter what you do. We just concentrated on doing missions at one system where we need to get a station to start trading. Missions for a day, and pending Boom.
This mechanic really needs to be changed. Once you get "Boom", it's pretty much game over concerning Civil Wars for three weeks. Not so bad when in a small system with two stations, but in a big one, where you want to have a civil war at every cooldown...
I'd love to have:
- Boom (or states in general) last a week maximum
- State cooldowns are a week maximum
- Civil wars last a minimum of 24h. No more flash civil wars, because the civil war is actually the "reward" for a lot of work.
As it is right now, we have an area of operations and whereever we focus, we get the boom pending and cringe. Because in 75% of the time, Boom is not what you want, but either civil war or expansion (sorry for the E-Word). And if Boom happens, it stops us dead in our tracks for three weeks.
If you happen to find a way to stop the Boom of LFE, you will be my personal heroes.
Noone knows actually what that does. Does it stop NPCs from trading?
And btw. I have started to hate the Boom state. Whenever you want to play the background simulation, the Boom gets in the way, no matter what you do. We just concentrated on doing missions at one system where we need to get a station to start trading. Missions for a day, and pending Boom.
This mechanic really needs to be changed. Once you get "Boom", it's pretty much game over concerning Civil Wars for three weeks. Not so bad when in a small system with two stations, but in a big one, where you want to have a civil war at every cooldown...
I'd love to have:
- Boom (or states in general) last a week maximum
- State cooldowns are a week maximum
- Civil wars last a minimum of 24h. No more flash civil wars, because the civil war is actually the "reward" for a lot of work.
As it is right now, we have an area of operations and whereever we focus, we get the boom pending and cringe. Because in 75% of the time, Boom is not what you want, but either civil war or expansion (sorry for the E-Word). And if Boom happens, it stops us dead in our tracks for three weeks.
If you happen to find a way to stop the Boom of LFE, you will be my personal heroes.
So we have the people with 100k trading space keeping up the war chest and smaller ships fighting the pirates with or without missions. What are the missions that put civil war into que? I will try and pick up a few of them.
The lure of putting my name in the stars also calls to me (was exploring before I came to Lugh) but the way I see it not only are we needed in this pivotal moment but how do I know the far out systems that I want are not already scanned and about to be turned in, no point leaving home for nothing. . . there's work to be done
I think of We all just hold on a little longer we could be in the home stretch before the 1.1 update
The lure of putting my name in the stars also calls to me (was exploring before I came to Lugh) but the way I see it not only are we needed in this pivotal moment but how do I know the far out systems that I want are not already scanned and about to be turned in, no point leaving home for nothing. . . there's work to be done
I think of We all just hold on a little longer we could be in the home stretch before the 1.1 update
So Silver Natural and LDF are in Civil War, wondering what they are fighting about.
None.
Influence differentials trigger Civil War.
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Survival?
I dont want to sound and be contra-productive here when i say that the next station who would flip for CSG will be Adamson Enterprise. And as this is also my project in which i have invested lots and lots of my freetime. From the outer to the inner stations in a system (and the smaller one at first as far as FD doesnt change anything in the game mechanics). If i am wrong then i would be so happy that i jump from earth to moon immediately
But at the moment and since days trading doesnt makes sense for me as we saw the mission summarys for all the commodities we delivered to CSG. Most of them pushed lockdown for the bad case. And overall i think beeing in lockdown state makes it impossible for CSG to gain influence with trading because we are locked down.
I wouldnt see our situation as bad as you think. We have more then enough influence to go through this lockdown state without risking to loose every single civil war against LFE after lockdown has worn off. If for example lockdown would last 20 days (i think it will not last more then one week) and loosing about 2% and LFE gaining 2% every day then we would still have enough influence to win every civil war against them.
Whats also of important now is that LFE isnt going into another state (with cooldown) during our lockdown. And dont forget about the civil war cooldown between LDF and SN LTD (26 days if FD dont reduce it to 7 days or so in the meantime).
I have been here since the day you startet this thread/experiment. Going for exploration one week wont hurt anyone more the opposite. I planned this since a long time and wanted to start it last week. I wrote you a PM and stayed then in lugh to work against our upcoming lockdown. Maybe we did the wrong things to prevent it. And overall this has not as much to do with the upcoming 1.1 update (i heared about the changes yesterday) although they make it more appealing.
I think the devs have shed quite a bit of light on this. Firstly, there's the civil war cool-down timer. Currently 26 days, but we know the devs are reviewing this and will be testing a smaller time frame soon.
Also, we know that each faction can only have one state active at a time. We've just worked through a boom state and now have to clear the Lockdown state before we can get another state. As I see it (and I'm sure Orfeboy will correct me if I'm wrong
All of this we have worked out with a few hints (and a couple of more direct comments) from Michael. I wouldn't have it any other way. FD need to know the system is complex enough to make system flipping difficult and interesting, but also transparent enough that a group of like-minded players can work out what to do themselves. So to say they're not shedding light - or to imply that there's something wrong because we're not getting our way straight away is, in my view at least, disingenuous. Most of us here are here because we want to help test the system, which in itself implies we know it has some flaws. We know there have been (and probably still are) flaws - but we also know that the devs are constantly rolling out fixes to what is being uncovered here and elsewhere (because they've been included in most of the recent patches)
Better still I, for one, am having fun doing it.
A little rep for you!
I don't think our Boom lasted more than a week? A recent comment from Michael leads me to believe that any state can be countered (as well as encouraged). it's logical that not trading in that faction's stations (and perhaps doing something that might stop NPCs trading there) should reduce the boom state quite quickly?
I personally think states should last as long as they need to (i.e. until events stop them), but that's my personal preference. We just need to work out what the most effective way to dismiss them is. In the same way that we have to work out the most effective way to cause them.
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If this is the case, then surely running only influence gaining missions would trigger a civil war? By not trading you'll hopefully avoid the Boom state.
Of cours, I could be misunderstanding things again!
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I think you can buy one in one of the CSG stations in Lugh. Either there or Belarsuk or Hill Pa HSI would be the most likely place I'd have seen them. As ever, I reserve the right to be completely mistaken!
Same here and it doesnt make any difference actually. Those seeking luxuries check points are a joke. Even if you have them in a system supplying performance enhancers you make four times more profit with trading between star systems. The only exception are boom systems in which you get lucky when they spawn beside a station supplying luxuries with 3 mins travell time.
Thank you!
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Have we worked out what their in-game purpose is? Is it just to get rich quick (in which case it sounds like it's not working) or can they be used in some way to counter the boom? I noticed that the ships tend to belong to factions that don't control that part of space, so I wondered if trading with an opposing faction's Luxury's Trader would reduce boom for the faction that controls that area of space?
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They were definitely generating lots of pirates last night for me. most of them were easy kills, so little monetary value, but I did manage to interdict a couple of wanted Orca's which were worth about 30k each (or would have been if they hadn't escaped - I still haven't worked out how to give chase when this happens!) Maybe if there's not so many around today, lockdown is on the decline? I live in hope!
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Afaik the best way to raise influence is trading in big ships, making good profits and delivering high demand, exporting high supply. We are working on several systems and they all steadily move upwards.
Currently we try our hands on another system with missions, where our station has no commodity market.
We have a harder time avoiding Boom there with mission running, though, because almost all the import missions add to Boom.
Meaning what exactly? Faction A has 48%, faction B has 47%. Players conspire and move B's influence 1% up and then civil war is triggered?
What if B has 55%. Do players need to bring down influence back down to 47% and then move it up to 48% to trigger the civil war?
What is meant by differentials? Rate of movement? Passing of the point of equal influence? Sudden/gradual increase in the rate of influence accumulation of one minor faction, while the other minor faction stays static? Static leveling of influence differentials for a week (a month, a year) after influence boost is done by one minor faction for a period of time, so the war is triggered? Boosting of influence of both factions, so that they become vulnerable to a state, like civil war? Which one is it? How do we know? Do we want to know?
That's all i wanted to point out. No need to answer, unless you really want to.
Literally 95% of the missions give boom as a result. Is beyond ridiculous.
Here is a current mission screen I have. If you look you will see 3 proactive missions available. This could very well be a symptom of our current situation. they are missions to kill pirates. I know doing these missions can be a pain trying to find pirates to fulfill them But I have noticed if you take several such missions when you complete 1 you complete them all. Doing these may very well be the key to lifting the lockdown.
Here is a current mission screen I have. If you look you will see 3 proactive missions available. This could very well be a symptom of our current situation. they are missions to kill pirates. I know doing these missions can be a pain trying to find pirates to fulfill them But I have noticed if you take several such missions when you complete 1 you complete them all. Doing these may very well be the key to lifting the lockdown.
Agreed. With Michael Brookes also flat out saying that we need to bounty hunt, I think we know what to do.
I think so.
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This is also true.