LIFETIME Expansion pass, and Python Mk2

I guess off topic but since you mention VR, is it possible to play this in VR using a copy of the game purchased directly from FDEV? Does it depend on which VR headset you get? I run ED stand alone from the ED launcher, don’t have any other gaming ecosystem running in the background.
 
I guess off topic but since you mention VR, is it possible to play this in VR using a copy of the game purchased directly from FDEV? Does it depend on which VR headset you get? I run ED stand alone from the ED launcher, don’t have any other gaming ecosystem running in the background.
yeah only version which may have given some issues was the version sold on the Oculus store. all the rest have the same level of vr support

that said depending on your headset youay need to install steam to get the steam vr distributable (I am not sure however)
 
I guess off topic but since you mention VR, is it possible to play this in VR using a copy of the game purchased directly from FDEV? Does it depend on which VR headset you get? I run ED stand alone from the ED launcher, don’t have any other gaming ecosystem running in the background.
As Mad Mike said, you may need steam VR or similar to run (I've launched both Steam VR & now Meta VR on the same shortcut)
If you duplicate your desktop launcher & rename with a VR at the end, then modify the properties as below:

launcher_VR.jpg


(that is [space] /VR)

You can launch either pancake or VR

You may need to add the same modifier switch as /novr to your pancake version if things start getting silly.
 
I appreciate that sentiment as a LEP holder, but it won't alter the reality that a bussiness will turn off the lights if it doesn't make an operating profit.
Agreed, but as I said, the money you spent on hardware doesn't benefit FD at all.
 
Agreed, but as I said, the money you spent on hardware doesn't benefit FD at all.
I think you may be missing the point.

I bought my first PC in 1983. I could afford the PC, but the cost of software was ridiculously expensive.

Now the hardware is expensive and the software by comparison is negligible.

Whinning about supporting a very cheap game in order to keep it online just doesn't seem rational to me. I'm happy to buy some ARX once in a while in order to keep the servers online.

Believe it or not - the 5 MB external hard drive for the original IBM PC was $6000

And it couldn't play any modern game...
 
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I think you may be missing the point.

I bought my first PC in 1983. I could afford the PC, but the cost of software was ridiculously expensive.

Now the hardware is expensive and the software by comparison is negligible.

Whinning about supporting a very cheap game in order to keep it online just doesn't seem rational to me. I'm happy to buy some ARX once in a while in order to keep the servers online.

Believe it or not - the 5 MB external hard drive for the original IBM PC was $6000

And it couldn't play any modern game...
I see we're doing a measuring contest are we?

Fine you win, yours is bigger.
 
I totally agree. Us LTE pass owners should not have to pay ARX for these ships. They should be available to us as they are developed. I'd venture that there are not enough of us left here to make a negative financial impact on them, but they DO still owe us. If they are not planning to make any more full DLCs for us, we need satisfaction.

That leads me to an optimistic suggestion. Maybe they are gauging how much interest in ED they can re-ignite with an eye to even more ambitious projects than colonisation coming back onto the table in future?
 
I totally agree. Us LTE pass owners should not have to pay ARX for these ships. They should be available to us as they are developed. I'd venture that there are not enough of us left here to make a negative financial impact on them, but they DO still owe us. If they are not planning to make any more full DLCs for us, we need satisfaction.

That leads me to an optimistic suggestion. Maybe they are gauging how much interest in ED they can re-ignite with an eye to even more ambitious projects than colonisation coming back onto the table in future?
Seconded. No ARX from me. When my in game currency runs out, so do I.

Everyone who bought an LEP funded Frontier Development's Expansion, not Elite's. The ARX thing is just the latest cheek from Braben and the Design Team, who at the base level, seem never to have recovered from Sandro and the early RNG non-philosophy. In VR or RL.
 
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I agree that access to new ships should not be locked behind a 'purchase-wall' for LTE pass owners. If my memories are correct, this pass was a promise from FD to grant access to current and future expansions and content for the pass owners, including beta versions and early access content. IMO, new ships, even though flagged 'early access', fall in the scope of the LTE pass promise. I also agree LTE pass owners don't need to get the prebuilt ships sold on the ARX store for free, however according to the promise that have been made, I believe they should have immediate access to new ships and content releases (including early access ships).
 
to current and future expansions and content for the pass owners
Just expansions. Any other (non-expansion) content granted by Frontier is at their discretion and not a promise covered by the LEP.
The new ships do not fall under the definition of the LEP.

You might not like that, and it might not be what you wanted to read, but it is the truth.
 
Just expansions. Any other (non-expansion) content granted by Frontier is at their discretion and not a promise covered by the LEP.
The new ships do not fall under the definition of the LEP.

You might not like that, and it might not be what you wanted to read, but it is the truth.
Which is just weasel words at that point... kinda like when someone claimed "It's not food, it's candy!"
 
Just expansions. Any other (non-expansion) content granted by Frontier is at their discretion and not a promise covered by the LEP.
The new ships do not fall under the definition of the LEP.

You might not like that, and it might not be what you wanted to read, but it is the truth.
Thank you for your reply.
With respect, that is your interpretation.
My interpretation is different. locking access to ships, which are an essential element of the gameplay in a space opera such as E:D, goes against the spirit of the promise made with the LTE pass. It seems I am not the only one who share this interpretation.

I say that and I support my opinion with a precedent: in all the past releases of early access content, LTE pass owers had access to this content. OK they changed the formula => it's not a Beta build here, but it is still early access gameplay content.
According to the LTE description as published by Frontier : We are exactly in such situation, where LTE pass owners were promised "to gain an early glimpse at upcoming game content before release".
If we consider, say the Mandalay ship, as part of the Ascendency update (which it is), then the LTE pass owners should have access to it at the same time of the other Ascendency content, based on the LTE pass promise.

This new practice (locking ships behind a pay-wall) is braking with the LTE pass practices of past content releases: in 2015 with the Horizon update, access was given instantly to the Cobra MKIV. The same policy (if we can call it so) was adopted with post horizon releases (Fleet Carriers, Odyssey, ...).

I should insist I am not against FD selling ships and prebuilt ships on the Store: I myself have bought such ships with ARX currency. But giving exclusive -buyers only- access to new content is unfair to LTE pass owners (at least this is my feeling and I think it is widely shared).
 
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